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I only just saw this, all the way from November until April, ouch. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on it.
Be good if Daz brought all their software up to industry standard if and when they get the resources to do so.
I’ll keep building Gen 8. I’ll probably start Gen 9 during the holiday sales. Only if enough content is out. It’s not useful until a ton of characters, clothes and sets/vehicles with interactive poses are out. It would probably start with the right pro bundle on sale.
But I won’t avoid it. Plenty of G3. I can probably skip G8M. G8F is just getting built here.
Accidental double post while trying to edit. Sorry.
Unless it's absolutely miraculous, not likely.
Would require some sort of major technical overhaul like bullet physics or (even harder apparently) working pins. Much more interested in them putting their time into adding features to the platform.
I will echo others and say i would rather daz refine G8 than to push a half baked G9 unless behind the scenes they are ready to release an all encompasing G9 But will not be holiding my breath. But what i am more interested is the what daz maybe going to introduce in studio . maybe better skin and hair shader set up thats top of my wishlist wich has to come from the program and not the model
Try baking those morphs into normals with substance painter or Marmoset. Then you can use them on all the g8 characters aswell due to the same base UV. I did this with most of the HD morphs from both g3 and g8 and it works very well, also keeping the figure light.
Nope. Not unless they create a psychic G9 that can forecast trends and suggest better ROI on investments.
That looks amazing. :)
We already have that... the problem is the (hardware) resources it requires.
This brings up the real issue I think. The major changes we would like all require more hardware requirements. Just as some are sticking with 3DLight for that reason, most of the rest of us would be sticking with current gen products as most can't afford dual rtx cards with 64gb of memory (or more) and the latest CPU. I think it's a matter of refinement untill new hardware gets established as a base, at which point we can start to consider significant changes.
That being said, it might be possible for continued refinement is in rigging and associated topology tuning as well as texturing like the example above. Just anything that takes too much hardware will probably not find a current market.
I'm just getting caught up with Genesis 8 (after taking too long to migrate from Poser to DS). I'm not spending that much money for a new figure set unless it blows G8 so far out of the water it makes them look like Victoria 3 era products.
I will grab the G9 figures when they come out because the base figures and starter essentials will probably be free.
Then after that I will start expanding into that generation when a named figure comes out that interests me.
Exactly. That's why I'm curious as to why folks are doing this back and forth dance. We always get the Essentials for free so that gives the end user a chance to play with the figure and check it out first before investing in it further.
AND as stated by an official DAZ person there will not be a Generation 9 this year so just relax and enjoy what we got!
A few pages earlier in this thread: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/4455636/#Comment_4455636
I have worked a lot with Genesis 3, now I only work with Genesis 8 much easier to handle, but I was extremely disappointed by the quality of some products especially babies (Caryn and Tobyn) real monsters (no finesse in the features of these 2 characters and not many choices in hair and clothing). I had been waiting for years for babies, the wait was long but very poorly rewarded! Then, since the Dforce system, clothes all look the same and don't always work very well. Moreover, I noticed that for a year now some salespeople hadn't given the same quality of work, you might think they were working on a line ( example: The hair, the hairstyle is different but the colours are identical throughout the range of the same salesman, the same for the eyes. Some major exceptions for rare products of high quality. So I am very disappointed with this past year. Finally, if Genesis 9 is released, it is in its interest to bring a huge bonus and especially that the hair, accessories and clothing are of impeccable quality.
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I've been dealing with medical stuff and just now saw this. Thanks for the update!
if it works in carrara i'll be front of the queue to buy it
even better if it comes with a face rigged dragon and rider and dragon poses.
Wow. Great video! I would love to see this ability come to daz.
Sorry, what do you want me to update it to? I'm taking suggestions for what to rename this forum. Although it went up a very long time ago, it seems that it is still relavent, since the g9 won't be out until 2020, at the earliest. It's not really an announcement thread, even though Steve did throw us a bone, which I really appreciate. I've noticed a huge improvement in the quality of some of the characters lately. Very exciting to me and I can't wait to see more of that. And we are all looking forward to great new capabilities with the actual DAZ program. After reading that tantalizing teaser I'm probably going to have dreams about it like one of the other people did. :)
Yes and after the Pro Bundle the first thing I will buy is the Morphing Fantasy Dress, because.
I pretty much buy anything 'fantasy' lol.
Your first post was written in 2018 says: "I see we have hit the one year mark for Genesis 8. Wow this last year went fast! Am I wrong in thinking Genesis 9 will be out next year?"
Most people will not read the 15 pages of this thread and many new people reading the thread will likely just read the OP and then comment. So what you could do is edit your first post with something like: "Edit - It looks like it's been announced that Genesis 9 isn't going to be released in 2019" and then a link to Steve's post: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/4455636/#Comment_4455636 That would likely help cut down on confusion.
And perhaps change the title of the thread (since it's a question that has been answered). Maybe something like: "When Genesis 9 is released, will you buy it?"
Since the title of the thread is misleading and several posters have commented about how they've stopped purchasing G8 content thinking that G9 will be coming out in a few months, like this comment:
Sounds good, thanks for the suggestions! May not get to this until tomorrow though. Edit: Ok, done! Changing the forum name and editing the first post was easier than I expected.
G8 is pretty good. What flaws it has are in large part a result of wanting to preserve the value of their customers investments in previous-gen assets. Any advances sufficiently ground-breaking to justify a new generation would probably also break backward compatibility. It would be nice to have soft tissue respond to collisions and stuff like female hips working differently from male hips, as they do IRL, but I think Daz is wise to tinker around the edges with stuff like SBH within the current, uh, there's that word: ecosystem. On the one hand a completely new model would be a bonanza for PAs faced with a customer base needing to purchase a whole new range of characters, hair, clothing and pose assets. On the other, there would be a lot of people faced with the choice of either starting from scratch but sticking with Daz stuff or looking around to what other options are available, especially with new life being breathed into Poser as we speak.
This does look really great, but it strikes me funny that with as far as we've come with CG, eyes still look deader than a doornail and it's immediately apparent to me ;).
Laurie
Auto Face Enhancer is a first attempt at this kind of thing. I've played with it a bit. The first thing it seems to do is add 5-10 years to your character.
I think a lot of that has to do with lighting. Though I could not tell you how to fix it.
Is that a new product? I missed the release. That isn't what Siciliano1969 is using in his video is it? Automatically aging the character is a huge downside but I think I'm going to have to try it.