What is going on?

Carola OCarola O Posts: 3,823
edited August 2013 in New Users

I rendered a picture that took a bit over an hour to render (quite a lot of shaders in it, hair and details). However when it came to 100% I had expected that I should be able to type the name of the picture and than go and do the postwork I planned.. however, it has been on 100% for the last damn 25 minutes now !?

I took a screen shot which also shows my.. uhm.. not sure what it's called in english again, but either way.. and apparently it seems that despite that the render is finished (100%) it still using up almost all of my 8gb RAM for some work in the background? On top of that, I checked to be sure there wasn't anything else working, but the Only thing that is active is Daz Studio and the render... so well, what exactly is going on?

I might add that this is the first time since I started with Daz that something like this happens

And as I have to go to the store, I hope that it has resolved itself by the time I get home.. if not I honestly have no idea what to do :/ Don't want to lose the render I did as I am honestly afraid it would just end up doing the same thing if I re-render the picture.


Edite - Back from the store.. and it's still going on despite being 100%... it's been on 100% for around an hour. *sad*

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  • Cayman StudiosCayman Studios Posts: 1,135
    edited December 1969

    A frozen PC is Nature's way of telling you you need more RAM. :-S

    Usually, I find, cancelling a render does not close down the render window, so you might be OK.

  • Carola OCarola O Posts: 3,823
    edited August 2013

    Thanks Cayman, I have 8gb ram, funny thing is the render itself didn't use that much during the rendering, it was only after it had reach 100%.. and it didn't froze, it just kept going on 100% and never stopped.

    I must say though, that all times I have cancelled a rener it always close down the render window. So I'm jealous at you for not having that ;P

    All in all, when I tried to press cancel, it suddenly reacted with the whole "Oh i am so evil so i ain't ognna resond to you" attityde.. in the ned, I had to actualyl shut down my computer completely to even get out of Daz :/ Have just restarted it but decided to browse the net a little before going into Daz and see what I can do :)

    As for this picture, I have rendered scenes that were Much much heavier than this one, without a problem.. so I don't think it was a problem with my ram truth to be told. I do know 8gb isn't that much when it comes to 3d, but since it has been able to deal with heavier and bigger scenes plus the fact that the scene didn't required all that much during the rendering.. well, I'm just very much confused truth to be told :)

    Edit - lol :/ On top of all this, somehow during the last process of rendering and such.. it destroyed something in the scene. So now when I tired to open the scen that had been saved before I started the rendering.. it failed to open, completely failed to open... I gonna give up on this scene and just start it over from scratch *needs a stiff drink*

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  • ben98120000ben98120000 Posts: 469
    edited August 2013

    Carola O said:
    I must say though, that all times I have cancelled a rener it always close down the render window. So I'm jealous at you for not having that ;P

    Just to mention it, I have render to: new window option active in render settings. And if I chancel render in picture window, than it closes picture window. But if I chancel render in DS window (window that shows render percentage, elapsed time, etc.) than picture window is left "standing". I dont remember doing anything special to have that.
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  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,422
    edited December 1969

    Cancel from the separate box not the render itself, this leaves the render open and you can the save last render; usually.

  • Carola OCarola O Posts: 3,823
    edited December 1969

    I wasn't aware of that, I always admittingly cancelled from the renders and not that percent box. I will keep that in mind if this happens again *smiles*

    Thanks guys :)

  • adamr001adamr001 Posts: 1,322
    edited December 1969

    Also, if you look in your DAZ temp folder, there's a subfolder called "render" that will usually have an "r.png" file in it which is your most recent render.

  • Carola OCarola O Posts: 3,823
    edited December 1969

    Hmm I see, that's good to know.

    I'm trying to find the Daz temp folder at the moment, no idea where to look really *laughs* though I highly doubt I be so lucky to have that render there, as I had to shut down the computer to get out of daz earlier :)

  • ben98120000ben98120000 Posts: 469
    edited August 2013

    This is mine I think. Path is listed in top part on the picture. User name will be different and AppData is a hidden folder, meaning you wont see it if you dont have "show hidden file and folders" option active in windows. In my windows I can get that option from start - settings - control panel - folder option. Than view tab from folder options window. I also think that DS empties that temp folder when I close DS, but perhaps there is some other temp folder for DS. There is also RenderAlbumTmp folder inside temp folder if r.png doesnt look right, picture in this folder might.

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  • Carola OCarola O Posts: 3,823
    edited December 1969

    Thank you all :9 Did find that temp folder thanks to the screenshot of Ben (and after translating the english to swedish (why was I stupid enough to choose swedish for my ocmputer *mutters) )

    Anyhow, the render folder didn't held anything, that temrender folder thing did had the small testversions I had done when working on the scene yesterday.. attaching one of them here to let you guys se what it was atleast.. though it is a small one so lack a lot of the details from the bigger one I'm afraid

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  • Carola OCarola O Posts: 3,823
    edited December 1969

    A little update... Did some testing around and such, and it turns out.. that it is the Dress that causes this. For some reason, the dress uses up almost all of my 8gb ram :/ and it doesn't matter if it is only the udnerdress, or both under- and overdress. Haven't tried with only the overdress yet and sort of afraid to do so I have to admit.

    It seems you were right in the end after all Cayman, my 8gb ram was not neough for this dress... makes me a tad bit annoyed truth to be told, as I don't have a problem with my other contents *sighs* Heck... even my scenes which uses heavy amount of SSS shader present thingies are easier on the ram than this single dress :(

    I am unsure whether I should return the dress since it seems I can't use it, unless I should wait a whole day or more for it to finish a simple render of course... since this is my only computer that isn't really an option. But I might be able to use the shoes and the jewelries... we will see what I decide to do. Just makes me sad thouhg as I really did like the dress and has hoped for a evening dress for Genesis 2 female for some time :/

    And please, don't go "just buy more RAM".. if it was that easy for me, believe I would have already done so a long time ago... I do plan to check exactly how much the cost for more RAM in this computer is as well as if I am able to actually change it myself, or if I need to let those that are knowledgable (if that's even a word) handle it for me..


    Sad half rant over, just wnated to let you lovely people who has helped me know *smiles warmly*

  • Cayman StudiosCayman Studios Posts: 1,135
    edited December 1969

    I won't say, "just buy more RAM". What I will say is, "RAM is very cheap" and "RAM is very easy to install"! Of course you need to do your homework about exactly which sticks to buy, but hey - that's what the internet is for! :coolsmile:

    I'm planning on using this dress in a render for this week's PC contest, so I shall take especial notice of the RAM usage.

  • Carola OCarola O Posts: 3,823
    edited December 1969

    Hehe, and jsut the other day I was told that the prices for RAM had raised a lot again :) I do plan to check it out though, and perhaps I can wave my eyelashes enough for the guys in the store I take my computer probblems too, so they put it in for a acceptable sum.. thouhg I do need to take the damn computer (stationary one) on the bus to get there... *laughs*

    But will check up on learning hwo to do it myself first :) and I do know what Ram sticks thingies that is in the ocmputer now, DIMM - 240 PIN something if I remember ocrrect (have it on the papers that came with the computer ;P)

  • 3Ddreamer3Ddreamer Posts: 1,300
    edited December 1969

    Hi Carola

    I was just playing with that dress last night on my laptop with 8Gb and has no problems rendering in the new Ballroom texture and velvety goodness shader on the dress. The possible difference is I have my Virtual Memory cranked up. Looks like you have Aslan as the set, is it worth trying with another background and see if it is just the dress.

    As to changing the RAM - it isn't hard to change but the big problem is can your motherboard support more. My laptop can only take 8Gb but it is working fine for me. If I replace my desktop I will spec it for a serious render pc ;-)

  • Carola OCarola O Posts: 3,823
    edited December 1969

    Lets see.. according to the papers of my computer.. I have 8gb/16gb RAM so it should be able to support up to 16 atleast, which would either mean changing the ram stick thingies that are in there to something bigger, or to put in a few more. We will see once I am confident enough to actually dare to put my fingers into that machine of mine *laughs*


    On another note.. I Did try yesterday with only the dress and no background at all, and at that time it still required as much as it had when I had Aslan as the background. However, considering hte results today.. I am wodnering if perhaps the computer hadn't actually empty the memory of aslan and such when I tried. All in all, I tried agian today, after this machine of mine had gotten himself a decent nights rest... and I tried with a different background, and it works with that... So I guess it was the combo of that dress and Aslan that made my poor machine go something along the line sof... "No No NO, I ain't gonna do this, forget it you ol' B***H, Forget it" on me *laughs*

    Regardless, I will still check up on ram and such when I have the change.. but atleast I now know what was going on and I certainly know not to combine beautiful Aslan with this beautiful dress :) atleast not yet ^^

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