Waited Too Long – 1080ti Unavailable
Ostadan
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So, now what do I buy? Building system from scratch, one of these days.
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The 20x0 cards are supported in the 4.11 Public Beta of DS.
But much more expensive. Same price for less memory. Maybe I'll just have to wait another year.
You can find 1080ti's, used, on eBay and craigslist for decent prices. If you check the manufacturers policies you can even get ones that still have warranties.
Is possible to find Asus, MSI, Gigabyte and Zotac 1080ti new in lot of online shop in Europe, the problem is the price still over the real value...and lot of used card in good conditions.
Where are you seeing that the 1080ti has been discontinued? Nvidia still shows it available direct, though Out of Stock.
Through multiple news sources and the fact that it is out of stock basically world wide.
I'm seeing it as available in multiple shops over here. But maybe these are the last ones ever made. :)
No, idea where you are. It's effectively sold out in North America. The only cards are grossly overpriced. EU sources seem to show the same thing.
Hungary, Central Europe.
If its for sale at MSRP whereyou are and you want it buy them now. They are definitely out of production.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/364813/report-nvidia-ends-gtx-1080-ti-gpu-production
So, looks like my realistic choice is between a 1080 (seems to be $600 or thereabouts), a 2080 (about $800-850 on NVidia's site) — is there that much improvement for Iray? — and a 2080ti, which is about $1350, and seems to be about the same as current prices for a 1080ti. The only real incentive for spending more money for that 'ti' letter is the additional VRAM. I suppose I can put up with an 8GB card.
So, is the difference between 1080 and 2080 Iray performance worth the extra $200-300 ?
Not really. It's noticeable but not huge. You can look at the benchmark thread to see for yourself.
However, someone did - in one of these threads - find a reference to Iray being updated to use the features of the RTX cores, and if that indeed happens it may well introduce a bigger speed difference in favour of the 20x0 cards with RTX cores.
Indeed if those RT cores, for lack of a better term, become enabled in iRay at the rated performance capabilities that's a whole new ballgame. Depending on just how much of the time in a render is spent doing ray tracing we could be talking about a reduction in render times, between generations card to card, of something over 50%.
I would not be too afraid of buying used if they are the right price. That is because most of the board makers allow warranties to transfer. I got a used 1080ti for $500 and it still has 2 years left on its warranty. I've had it a couple months now and no regrets. That was right before the prices jumped again, but you might find some at good prices if you look.
Another thing to keep in mind, if you live in the US, new prices will jump again when new tariffs kick in. The first 10% has already kicked in as of Oct 1. But the big 25% tariff will kick in on Jan 1, 2019. These will effect almost every video card out there because they all use parts from China. The only way around the tariff is if the card was shipped to a warehouse before the tariff kicks in, but that will only last so long. So if you live in the US, you probably should decide before the new year. 25% on a $1,000 card would $250. Yikes.
Those tariffs will also affect any card shipped through the US so that also affects Canada, Maxico and strangely enough parts of Europe.
That's right, I forgot that. Double yikes.
Yikes times three. I've spent a few thousand on props over the years and never yet used them [too busy to learn this stuff]. Waited for the 1080Ti price to drop until it went out of production. And now, the 2080s will go up even further in price before I can afford to buy one. I'm so angry I'm going to have a stroke. I don't want used, warranty or not... Sorry, just venting.
Get a 2070 now if you can, check deals over the weekend/on Monday and buy if you can possibly do so. You might even see a deal on a 2080. Also if you live near a Microcenter or NewEgg check their open box sales. These are products returned for some reason or another that they have checked out that work fine. I've bought several over the years, for personal use, and never had a problem.
Wait for Christmas - Mid January when people are absolutely starved for cash and grab a second-hander for cheap.
Buying used isn't a bad deal, just be cautious of Ebay and Amazon sellers. Avoid 0 feedback sellers offering "too good to be true" prices, and try to stick with sellers who use actual photos instead of stock photos. If you see two sellers using the exact same "actual item" photos, one of them is a scam. No two photos taken by real people can come out identically.
I picked up a pair of 780tis a couple of years ago and they worked fine right up until the moment I upgraded to a 980 and used Titan Z (which did encounter an issue where Windows only ready half the card, but a quick BIOS update via GPU-Z fixed it).
I have only bought a new GPU once in my life, and that was a 9600 back in like 2002. Since then every card I have bought has been used. Though the problem now is prices are going back up now that they are sold out new. When you get closer to the original launch price then IMO it is not worth buying used. Under $600 I'd do it, but over $600 I would lean towards the 2080. I just really hate to give up that 3GB of VRAM. The 2070 might be alright, in the SY bench, currently it is roughly as fast as the 1080ti when rendering Iray. It is assumed that if/when Iray updates to use the RT cores it will get a lot faster. But I feel like the 2080 with more RT cores will benefit even more. Of course the 1080ti has no RT cores.
There are 2070's for close to $500, but those have very light coolers and are not clocked as high as the more expensive models. So there is a real performance difference between the low priced 2070's and the higher priced ones.
But that is your choice. If you want a 1080ti now it is going to have to be used. You have just over a month to decide before the tariffs kick in.
Unknown, yet but the balance of probability says a 2070 will be around 4-5x faster than a 1080 Ti. I've been looking into this. Taking the raw "gigaray" numbers with a pinch of salt, though they're ballpark correct and assuming when NVIDIA finally release Optix 5.2 it's fairly easy for Daz to upgrade their iRay implementation to use it, the performance boost with a 20xx series card will be huge over the 10xx series. Really, almost an order of magnitude better at 2080, half that at 2070 but still massive.
I see some good ideas here regarding purchase of used cards, etc. But it seems to me that judging from the technical changes of the last few years, nothing short of 'cutting edge' is wise to mess with.
I built my machine with a 750 Ti when it was new and the 'best value', but then I got too busy to use it, and then suddenly the card became too small for any major work with the then-new iray.
If I can pull a few strings and rob a few banks, I'm going to find a way to get ahead of the game this time. Before the tariffs, I want a 2080 Ti, ... and yipes again, I'll need a new computer for it. Um, back to the drawing board.
Be aware the 20 series cards are slightly longer than the 9xx series. It was easy to fit a GTX 970 into my case. For the 2070, which is about 1cm longer (and fatter but that doesn't matter so much) I couldn't fit it without "modding" my case (literal pliers). Unfortunately my case doesn't have the ability to remove the drive bays which get in the way.
There will be shorter 20xx cards. Zotac tends to produce mini cards for the Nvidia line after the initial wave of releases. Also check the various vendors and measure you case cleance carefully you might find a card that fits. All the cards aren't the same length or width for that matter but your problem is length.
For instance the Zotac 2070 mini is only 211mm long. Zotac has a number of twin fan 2080's at 268 mm and their shortest 2080ti is also 268.