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Yeah, I've been trying to learn fur. This is an early attempt (along with some of the assets from StrangeFate's up and coming awesome Medieval Fantasy Bedroom):
Omg diva please sell these or let us know the settings I’m dying for more Afro hair styles!!
Agreed. Diva, honey child.. you need to put these in the store!
Thank you! lol Sadly though I built them on Base Genesis 8 Female and I think in order to sell them I'd have to start from scratch and build them onto a skullcap. I don't think there is a way to transfer them to a skullcap so I'll probably have to start over and redo them all from scratch if I want to sell them.
hahah I'll try - they're quite complicated and have a lot of tweaks and adjustments to get the texture the way I wanted, so rebuilding them from scratch on a skullcap will take quite some time. I'm also not sure if Daz will take them without dForce since they're strand hair, I'm not sure - if not I'll have to learn how to make dForce hair which might take some time too.
I converted a Strand-Based Hair to a figure, and after that I was able to autofit it onto a different character. If I remember correctly, I built it on a G8M, and it autofit perfectly onto a G8F.
I can offer you some pointers:
1) In the Style Curve Options, lower segment length (I usually go as low as possible). Also lower the interpolation segment length to taste.
2) Using the Curl Curves tool, curl the hair as far as you can in either direction. This will cause the hair to curl back in on itself.
3) Using the Surface Attract Curves tool, pull the hair out slightly. This stands the hairs up without removing all their curl.
You can repeat steps 2 and 3 if you like. After that, I recommend keeping clumping fairly low (unless the particular style demands it), and add a very, VERY small amount of frizz for more body.
I just posted an animation using dForce Longdrape Hair to see how well it animates - it just used its default settings, the animation is done with AniMate Belly Dance clips, the outfit is EJ's Fantasy Dancer. I hope you like it - although Longdrape Hair was not primarily made for animation, I think it fares pretty well with what is a quite demanding animation.
WOW!
Thank you!
It is also interesting that it of course behaves as real hair. So the long front strands will cover the face after a while of movements and the dancer needs to get rid of them. A real dancer would probably clip some hair to avoid making a mess during the performance. That means some weight painting is needed.
I mean these are things that have to be taken into account when designing dforce hair.
I use an invisible face shield (which is morphable) to control how the hair falls around the face, it got disabled in the latter part of the animation to give more "messy" appearance for that section.
By the way, you don't need weight mapping for dForce Hair, you can adjust the stiffness for both root and tip and the transition (called Bias) between them - they are all user accessible dials under the Surfaces tab.
maybe now we can render stuff like this in DAZ studio
But it still seems to float or some sort of gravity or mass issue. There were some examples posted earlier that did the same thing , as if it was underwater or similar
That was lovely!
Oh, wow. I could tell right away it was animated CG fur, but this is among the best I've ever seen — better than in some films I've paid to watch.
Looks great; still looking forward to some more of your strand-based dforce hair. :D
That’s just a random video I stumbled across not mine
just thought I better clarify
Thanks Cho! That is really useful to know.
For those looking to erase the paint, holding down the Alt key works for me, if someone has already posted this sorry for spam I'm only up to page 10 of this thread.
This is very useful indeed thank you @Gordig for this nice quick tutorial.
Nicely done, using it over the top of the hair has made it look very real.
Thank you! :) And yeah, I think it can really "save" some of those older poly hair models that don't seem to hold up as well in Iray - Don't get me wrong, some of the older poly-hair still looks good, but many where designed for 3DL and just need a bit of a realism boost for Iray. Adding some light Strand-Based Hair on top of them can give them that nudge into more realistic looking hair.
Nice work Matty!
If you're using a base from someone else you may want to continue to use scene subset as they will be able to use it as long as they own the same skullcap. If you save as a wearable preset iirc it includes the geometry which would be a bad thing unless you had made the skull cap...I need someone who can confirm this though.
Wow, great proof of concept Gone!
I look forward to seeing what you do...you seem to have a knack for this and I agree that many of the older hairs still look good but this can make them even better.
You forgot about Poser.
Finally bought my first SBH dForce Hair.
AprilYSH's new release Lea Hair.
Product is really loaded with options. Especially all the dForce surfaces she provides that you can change as you (thanks Daz for making that open to all of us). Would recommend to anyone that wants to test potential of dForce Hair.
Here are a few renders to play with and test it.
One of my wishes was for finer hair. With all the hair that is included can see why the coarser less dense is default. But with all the settings available and April providing a great instructional resource here (last post in thread), was able to change it how I wanted.
My only "not like so much" is the root placements of the frontwisps surface or the fringe, which can be toggled off easily with the one click duf included.
But! with the Headwisps April included, well just changed the physics and used that surface as a replacement for the front hairwisps.
This bigger image is using the headwisps (with frontwisps turned off). Rendered in 14 minutes, 27% Converged with 1001 iterations on an RTX2080ti, DS Beta 4.11.382. (Guess the panel layers of rain and more than 1 light source didn't help the time).
Other thumbnails are all higher-rez so click if you want.
Other thumbnails:
- hair fan laying down
- front wisps/ front fringes as is (hope i did them justice and didn't miss anything).
- cute accident in terms of how much you can make the head-wisps dform (needs a fix under armpit lol - didn't let stabilizattion run long enough and didn't notice but too late).
Thank you very much for your review Saxa -- SD :) I'm still trying to find a happy medium between "I like lots of options" and "don't confuse me, it's just hair" lol
Normally would just edit/update my previous post.
But cos, I wrote in previous post that the front fringe or wisps weren't quite right for me, want to correct that with a fresh post that is less likey to be missed.
Found what I feel is an attractive use for the front wisps when used as a finer hair (Roots at 0.04 and tips at 0.015). New render below.
Also checked the fronty wisps with the more default bit thicker hair and can see why root placement is where it was.
April's Lea DF-SBH Hair is just more and more versatile.
Haven't even shown the renders for posing afterwards uing her custom bones/morphs that can be used fater dforce to enhance for dramatic shots. Nice.
LOL, missed this as was just finishing rendering/making into jpg and working on next write-up at same time
I'd happily pay extra for the "I like lots of options", like a texture add-on. Joking and really not. Being a non-PA, having the option to adapt all the dForce surface options you included in this - is well just fabulous. Thanks alot ! :)
Edit: PS, isn't "don't confuse me, it's just hair" a bannable statement in artist communities? /lol and sarcasm intended
Thank you very much Penny!
I just got this hair too but I can't get it to render. I load the hair pick the shade pose and render All that renders is the scalp cap. I am only using the 4.11 beta if that makes a difference. What am I doing wrong?