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Thanks Joe, well that is good. I am running an i7 also but have a 1080ti so it should cope with what I will throw at it.
But why? It's clear the PA's have access to a feature we don't have, but I don't understand why we're not being given the same tools. We all have access to the ability to make dForce clothing if we wanted to, for instance, but few of us go through the trouble. Is it because once you become proficient in strand-based hair you wouldn't need to buy hair if the dFroce weren't handicapped?
But why? It's clear the PA's have access to a feature we don't have, but I don't understand why we're not being given the same tools. We all have access to the ability to make dForce clothing if we wanted to, for instance, but few of us go through the trouble. Is it because once you become proficient in strand-based hair you wouldn't need to buy hair if the dFroce weren't handicapped?
That's my guess, which feels kinda "shifty". I can't help feeling that way. Why even bother telling us about dforce strand hair then if we can't ever make it? I'm getting a bad taste in my mouth now....
Laurie
The revelation that we users won't be able to create our own dForce strand hair did take some shine off the new toys. But let's look at the glass half full. We will finally be able to purchase and render dynamic hair! Daz didn't have to give us any creation capability, but they let us create our own strand based hair. I'm having a lot of fun with just that tool.
Great, brilliant use of strand hair, without the ability to use the best feature of strand hair... talk about defeating your own purpose!
I agree and I am not a sycophant but DAZ Studio is free and I am loving the direction they are taking it and let us not forget DAZ3D is a content based business. Yes it is a little disappointing for those that render human figures all the time, which i don't anymore so for me I am not too bothered but I can sympathize and can see why this is the case..
Without the ability to create the dForce hair - you will be able to use it.
I guess we can use this for eyelashes, brows and body hair, so all is not totally lost I suppose... it's too bad we can't make flowing d-forced hair for animation...
Thanks for the kind comments. Yes this one was converted from Strand Based Hair to dForce Hair, and as has been implied, that option is only available to Daz PAs. I am also experimenting with other ways to produce hair, each method has its plusses and minuses, but this particular hair came out well I think.
Yes the length options are all shorter. They basically cut the ends off the already draped hair, so you don't need to re-drape to see the effect, which is cool and allows you to quickly try out alternatives.
No, you need dForce Hair to be dynamic.
Ok, I don't get this at all.... First image is combed screen, second is tweaked screen which is nothing like combed screen, then screen image, then partially rendered image. Bangs are separate and work OK, but long hair is not responding to comb correctly. What did I do wrong?
This, pretty much. I never really imagined that we'd be let loose with the dForce hair (to the point where I don't think I've even looked at the included sample and am idly wondering what makes it any different to products like Bang Bob Hair With dForce For Genesis 8 Female(s) etc). I'm not even that bothered about not being able to access dForce if we can make our own strand-based hair within Daz and brush our hair creations in the direction of gravity when pose changes call for it. This would have been the stuff of dreams not so long ago. Monday, I think :) As long as the strand-based hair creator doesn't become an ignored feature and improvements are made where needed (selection tools, mostly), I'm not complaining. I appreciate that Daz has to make money, and with my hairdressing skills being what they are I expect I'll get plenty of opportunities to financially compensate the company for the new goodies. For the record though, this would have been just the same if we'd been given the dForce tools as I'd merely be creating ropey hairdos with gravity!
@Wonderland You will want to adjust the Parting Angle (I think from memory it is on the Style page but you need to open it up, it is easy to miss). The default is 180 which means that hairs are interpolated from the guide lines whatever the angle between them. By reducing it (try 90 for example) and the hairs part where the angle between adjacent hairs is more than 90 degrees. So it needs to be adjusted relative to your particular style. Set it too high and you get hair where you don't want it, set it too low and the hair starts splitting into separate bunches, so use the feedback to set it how you want. You can turn on and off various preview modes towards the bottom of the right hand panel.
But why can't we create it? Again, we were given access to the clothing dForce tools, which as been great because I've successfully bought and converted many previously non-dForce outfits.
One of the reasons I've love Daz is because it has always let us go as far as our technically skills allow. If I wanted to learn how to make hairs or sculpt in zbrush, I could. However, this handicapping doesn't feel good. It makes me sad.
I didn't mean there was not huge work behind. Of course, it's way more integrated, modernized and obviously rewrote. I'm very looking forward to use it on a mac.
Thank you so much @PhilW! Was going crazy with this!
I don't see why you couldn't make it dfoceable the same way I can Zbrush fibermesh hair
have a separate root surface that you dial simulation down on
video zbrush conformed hair
Glad it was helpful.
Thank you! The hair has gone through some adjustments but with this render, if I remember correctly, the "Density" is around 50 and the hair strand widths at "Base (mm)" is .18, I think. And the "Tip (mm)" is at .10, I think.
@SimonJM I think you can add as many Strand Based Hair "Instances" (or whatever you want to call them) as you want to a figure or object. So I was thinking, to get a more natural transition with hair, maybe add two "instances" of Strand Based Hair? The first, around the edges, which should be less dense and thinner hair and then the "main hair" should probably start a little way into the first "parameter" "instance" of thinner hair so that there's a transition area. There's probably an easier way to do it though - maybe? lol I wonder if there is a way to do the maps so that it can distribute the hair thinner and lighter in certain areas and then denser and a little thicker in other areas. Hopefully there is a way to do that (and hopefully I'm not too dense to figure it out lol). :)
+1 to all those!
The dogs look great! :)
Dito! I'm tickled pink by this! Daz3D has done so well with this! And it's only going to get better, since this is just the beta! :D
HAHAH I love it! Bigfoot likes beer - who knew!? lol :D
I'm impressed with what I'm seeing from you so far - I hope you post more! :D The women's style you did is absolutely fantastic!
hahah That tongue though! My cat does that and it looks so cute here. :)
I've not had any of my Strand Based Hair renders anywhere near an hour. I have a GeForce GTX 970.
You can make the hair more uneven in the "Tweak" tab. Try adjusting the "Random Length". :)
Thanks. I think that was entirely beginners luck. I twirled dials with no clue about what they did. I just looked in the viewport for feedback. I've never used Garibaldi, so I had nothing to go on.
Edit: Nothing to go on other than the tool tips from the ?.
Wow - Those are really cool! I particularly like the red birds and the foraging ones. Using the hair plugin for "feathers" is a fantastic idea. I hope we can do similar things with the new Strand Based Hair system. :)
I am totally sold!
Working on a set of fur that can be applied to a variety of anthro characters. (This is several HFS shapes with Anubis skin texture)