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O! Preach it! Amen and hallelujah!Is there a way to search for particular designers in this institution? (No matter how much I do any of this, I always—and I mean always—still feel like a pitiful n00b.)
EDIT: Okay, so I just discoverd the "Vendors" filter in the shop. As you were. At ease. Carry on.
Use the Vendor link on the Shop page.
Thanks for all the names! I found and wishlisted a few. Really liking this one but surprised there weren't many gallery entries listed for it.
By Meshitup here https://www.daz3d.com/man-about-town-for-genesis-3-male-s
Maybe, and this is just a guess, because a lot of people who actually post on the site are from the states and this outfit looks more European? I know I haven't bought it for that reason. It's not something I really see people in the US wearing. It does look better made than a lot of stuff currently out for the males. But like I said, it's a guess ;)
Laurie
That makes sense and probably a very accurate guess :) I'm not sure if the jacket comes off (looking more closely at the page I think maybe not) but I think this would be great for mixing and matching or a fellow with a more sophisticated style. The shoes, bag, and inner sweater really stand out for me- and I quite like the hat.
I use that hat a lot. The jacket set/sweater/shirt is all one piece, only downside, but it does look good. I just don't have a lot of renders in the gallery here because it's kind of a hassle, at some point I'll get caught up, maybe.
I own it. It is gen 3 and has burned in highlights and weird baked in wrinkles on the pants. I'll look at it again, but recall not liking the textures when I bought it.
Yep, this conversation has truly been beaten to death and we are told the only way to realise better male clothing in the store is to support the vendors that make the clothing to 'be the change you want to see', but in the real world, and not reading from a textbook on consumerism, it would take years for these effects to be actualised. Rather than pour your money into a hopeless enterprise, I think it would be better to save it up and learn to make your own clothes...or learn to adapt the clothes you have. I don't see male clothing making any groundbreaking changes in the near future - though there do remain some amazing vendors who create men's clothing with stunning results on other storefront platforms.
i'm waiting for a sleazy nale flight attendant outfit. cross dressing a stewardess outfit not the same.
The complainant is that male clothing looks badly tailored, ill fitting and generally poor quality.
Yep, and so is the stuff in the DAZ shop. As an older, larger male (height and weight) I simply cannot get any clothing that is comfortable, let alone fits a shape remotely similar to mine. So if clothing in real life is poor, why expect imaginary clothing to fit imaginary people any better?
Men are simply poorly served for clothing, whether the men are real or imaginary.
Regards,
Richard.
Can't say I see anyone wearing something like this here in Europe either. If it wasn't for the millenium style shoes, I'd have guessed it was some outfit for the working class in the twenties in about any western country on this planet.
That's too bad. I wish Marvelous Designer and Blender were both cheaper and easier to pick up because I see sooooo many trendy and well tailored outfit for men on Pinterest that I would love to have in my Daz 'closet'. Guess I'll just have to stick with post editing/painting most of the outfits I want
That's exactly the type of clothing my Bavarian brother-in-law wears. LOL, we in the US wear cheap cotton that bleeds and pills after one wear & wash cycle.
So while male content doesn't sell well, some of it does still sell. Maybe a silver lining for the Male content customers and also an inspiration for content creators? Yes, female outfits sell larger volumes but female clothing has a lot more competition.
I suspect the bundles sell well less because of the clothing and more because of the included deals. I bought the recent male bundle twice to get additional discounts and two more free gen 8 pro bundles
For instance? I'm not asking for links, but it seems you could list some names of some of those amazing vendors.
They've already been mentioned on the previous page...vendors like Luthbel, Luthbelina, Mada, and Smay come to the front of my mind.
I think you overlookd this key phrase in what Empty said: "on other storefront platforms."
I've looked at the ones you just named and all named in this thread that are available through the "Vendors" link at Daz. I was asking about vendors Empty alluded to but did not name "on other storefront platforms."
Ah, gotcha. For men's clothing specifically...I really can't think of any that come to mind on other sites like Rendo. From what I've seen, male assets are even more sparse than they are here.
Renderosity's RPublishing has a great Conquistador outfit for G3M, When tax refund fun money shows up in the next few weeks, it's on my list of top things to buy as I have zero assets from that time period in my content.
There's also a classic raincoat for G2M by Cayman Studios, which I own. Collars can be a a problem area, but the collar on this one is pretty good and the buttons aren't weirdly tiny.
GaoDan's School Uniforms 21 for G3M set has a lot mix-and-match parts with good detailing. I don't do many school-age kid renders but it looks fine on the adult characters. Also, the shirt and pants can be used with other outfits. I have a few sets where I like one or two pieces of the outfit, but the pants or shirt have issues, so I'll swap out the parts I don't like for something that looks better.
Muwawya, individually and with RPublishing, has a number of fun anime/game-style outfits.The one I have in my wishlist is for both G3M and G8M.
RedzStudio and Samsil have some male hair products over at Rendo too, and there's a vendor named Dzheng who does a lot of fetish/beefcake type of outfits. Not my thing, but might be for others.
A few other vendors here at DAZ that haven't been mentioned: Fisty & Darc, Outoftouch, SloshWerks, 4blueeyes, and Linday don't do a lot of male clothing, but the ones I've bought from them all have nice detailing modeled in and look good. I have several male outfits by Yura, which also have nice detailing; I just wish they had more texture sets. And I hope Yura has a G8M version of the G8F Space Suit in the works. I love the G8F version, but the top doesn't autofit well to G8M, sadly.
A couple other outfits that had good detailing are the PC's Just A Man for G3M and Last Survivor for G8M. Again, both of them could use more texture add-ons.
Wow, thanks, mmalbert for putting together that great list!
While I'm here, I want to backtrack on—or, more accurately, qualify—my original plaint. Most of the ancient/fantasy/sci-fi/historical costumes for the Daz males seem fine to me. (But then again, how would I, or anyone, know if they weren't?
) When I started this thread I had specifically in mind the 20th-to-21st century outfits.
Hm. Couldn't find that anywhere.
I never would have thought of even trying those on adults. Thanks for the tip!
Also while I'm here, I want to say that H&C's Checkered Shirt Outfit in the DAZ store (for G3 and G8) stands out among the crowd when as one of the better male outfits. I mentioned earlier that their Business Suit product is among the best available for that category, and I meant then to mention the Checkered Shirt Outfit but forgot.
You're welcome!
The coat is Raincoat for Genesis 2 Male - https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/raincoat-for-genesis-2-male/110525/
IH Kang/H&C does a lot of nice, practical modern clothing for both male and female figures. Their Basic Suit A for Genesis is one of my all-time favorite suits. They closed their Renderostiy store after moving to DAZ so it's no longer available, which is too bad because it autofits quite well to later generations.
Dogz, here at DAZ, has several school uniform sets as well -- I have a couple in my wishlist but don't own them. They'll fit the adult characters too so it might be worth giving them a look.
Oskarsson also has made modern outfits for males. I have a number of them though I do wish some had more modeled-in details and a little more thickness to the cloth. Collar details can be a little iffy. I'm guessing shoulders, lapels, and collars are tricky to work with since they're often not quite right looking. I'll fix things in postwork, though, so that's not a deal-breaker for me.
mwokee: Did you miss all the PAs who basically make a male and female variant of the same outfit and report the male rather consistently sells for a fraction of female?
Would anyone else be interested in a new thread focused primarily on posting renders focused on men wearing really well done outfits/pieces ?? (not sure how OP feels about the original threads direction being slightly changed ^_^') My wardrobe for men is pretty limited atm and I'd like to expand and would love to see visual recommendations especially as March Madness sales are supposedly happening soon.
I think there are several factors involved, more than just sales figures.
- Realistic looking male clothing is likely much more difficult and time consuming to make. Men's clothing doesn't fit like women's, where you have form fitting stretchy knits and draped wovens that fall away from the body. Sure, some things are like that, but most aren't. Taliored woven garments with collars, lapels and cuffs often have pleats and folds. Shirts are gathered at the waist and tucked into pants. They have more variations of thickness within the same item and more dimension that needs to be realized in order to sell the illusion.
- Vendors are creators, so that means they are artists that need to have some degree of inspiration and passion for what they do. Not finding male clothing interesting wouldn't be a surprise ot me, because it's all very basic and variations on the same few pieces.
It's not surprising to me that a lot of the vendors don't want to put the time into creating something they aren't passionate about in the first place.