Is Daz Studio (as we know it) Heading South?

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,320

    They have been Manhattanites fleeing NYC to the area where I live of all places. About a month ago a yaht with a famous business's name from NYC on the sides put there on the lake and no joke, that yaht was the size of some sizeble small college football stands. I have no ideal yahts could even be that big or be driven over land to an inland lake. I'm wondering actually if they somehow flew it tethered to aircraft or something most of the way. It was much bigger than a big Victorian house that you read about getting moved sometimes.

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    edited August 2020

    Is Daz Studio (as we know it) Heading South?

    Don't know about DS but this thread certainly is...

    Post edited by Sven Dullah on
  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,597
    edited August 2020

    To the bottom of Vicky's map of Tasmaniacheeky

    Post edited by WendyLuvsCatz on
  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,837
    A "Daz studio based on Blender" makes Zero sense.

    If one wants the features of Blender they are already there for you but one must be willing to leave the Daz studio comfort bubble.

    plugins Like Diffeo have made it alot easier to move content over to Blender for rendering.
  • DustRiderDustRider Posts: 2,800
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    What, is Daz moving to New Zealand...?

    I wish.

     

    There is a lot of stuff still coming for Daz Studio, I can't guarantee a 4.13 release because we might skip it and go straight to 4.14. The changelog shows some stuff that has been more or less completed and there is other stuff in the early R&D phases that I think is exciting as well.

     

    I am also excited for the new store software, but it isn't holding up new features in Daz Studio, and Daz Studio isn't holding up the new store. As far as the COVID-19 goes, the Daz Studio team has transitioned to working from home really, really well and we have even brought on new staff.

     

    Thanks for being interested in what's coming next in Daz Studio.

    Thanks fro dropping by!

    IMHO, even with the glitches with the new timeline/animation functions, you guys are doing a great job. Also, thanks for all your hard work!!

  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 1,938
    Sevrin said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    What, is Daz moving to New Zealand...?

    I wish.

     

    There is a lot of stuff still coming for Daz Studio, I can't guarantee a 4.13 release because we might skip it and go straight to 4.14. The changelog shows some stuff that has been more or less completed and there is other stuff in the early R&D phases that I think is exciting as well.

     

    I am also excited for the new store software, but it isn't holding up new features in Daz Studio, and Daz Studio isn't holding up the new store. As far as the COVID-19 goes, the Daz Studio team has transitioned to working from home really, really well and we have even brought on new staff.

     

    Thanks for being interested in what's coming next in Daz Studio.

    I've just now figured out what this means and it made my whole DAZ day.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    NylonGirl said:
    nicstt said:

    I've always thought Studio 5 should be based on Blender. With Blender's introduction of long term support from 2.83, it is very viable.

    ... I can't see it happening though.

    From what I remember of the last time I tried Blender, you'd have to type ctrl-alt-7 to select an object, pressing the up arrow would save a file, and a mouse click would shut down the app. It was as if they rebelled against anything working as expected. And buying a book on the subject was futile because by the time the book was published the entire interface would change to something completely incompatible with the version the book was based on. I've seen posts on this forum that say Blender has gotten better since then. But I wouldn't want to risk being stuck with the one interface that makes DAZ Studio seem well done.

    That must be back prior to 2.5.

    It's been useable with just the mouse for years; although, why anyone would NOT want to use shortcuts I don't understand, but I know it happens.

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,797
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    What, is Daz moving to New Zealand...?

    I wish.

     

    There is a lot of stuff still coming for Daz Studio, I can't guarantee a 4.13 release because we might skip it and go straight to 4.14. The changelog shows some stuff that has been more or less completed and there is other stuff in the early R&D phases that I think is exciting as well.

     

    Thanks for being interested in what's coming next in Daz Studio.)

    Just curious ...  about skipping the 4.13 ... I may have a phobia or two but none relate to the number 13, however hotels often don't go 13 while others also avoid 14, especially in East Asia, by skipping the floors via the elevator button. At Pont de l'Alma Princess Diana died at the 13th pillar, the Columbia space shuttle disaster was the 13th flight, so is it fair to ask, if no  4.13, is it based on similar logic to why G5 skipped to G8 or something else?

    Covid19 sure puts a wrench into things but I heard rumors that tthe software was changinging to something a little different than we are use  to.

  • Silent WinterSilent Winter Posts: 3,766
    ArtAngel said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    What, is Daz moving to New Zealand...?

    I wish.

     

    There is a lot of stuff still coming for Daz Studio, I can't guarantee a 4.13 release because we might skip it and go straight to 4.14. The changelog shows some stuff that has been more or less completed and there is other stuff in the early R&D phases that I think is exciting as well.

     

    Thanks for being interested in what's coming next in Daz Studio.)

    Just curious ...  about skipping the 4.13 ... I may have a phobia or two but none relate to the number 13, however hotels often don't go 13 while others also avoid 14, especially in East Asia, by skipping the floors via the elevator button. At Pont de l'Alma Princess Diana died at the 13th pillar, the Columbia space shuttle disaster was the 13th flight, so is it fair to ask, if no  4.13, is it based on similar logic to why G5 skipped to G8 or something else?

    Covid19 sure puts a wrench into things but I heard rumors that tthe software was changinging to something a little different than we are use  to.

    Not sure where you heard those rumours - only things I've heard simply point to exciting developments (but nothing that'd mean you'd have to relearn DS from scratch or that DS is heading south - more like north...maybe north by northwest...which is not a reference to Hitchcock, merely a vote of confidence in DS's continued development)

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,797
    edited August 2020
    ArtAngel said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    What, is Daz moving to New Zealand...?

    I wish.

     

    There is a lot of stuff still coming for Daz Studio, I can't guarantee a 4.13 release because we might skip it and go straight to 4.14. The changelog shows some stuff that has been more or less completed and there is other stuff in the early R&D phases that I think is exciting as well.

     

    Thanks for being interested in what's coming next in Daz Studio.)

    Just curious ...  about skipping the 4.13 ... I may have a phobia or two but none relate to the number 13, however hotels often don't go 13 while others also avoid 14, especially in East Asia, by skipping the floors via the elevator button. At Pont de l'Alma Princess Diana died at the 13th pillar, the Columbia space shuttle disaster was the 13th flight, so is it fair to ask, if no  4.13, is it based on similar logic to why G5 skipped to G8 or something else?

    Covid19 sure puts a wrench into things but I heard rumors that tthe software was changinging to something a little different than we are use  to.

    Not sure where you heard those rumours - only things I've heard simply point to exciting developments (but nothing that'd mean you'd have to relearn DS from scratch or that DS is heading south - more like north...maybe north by northwest...which is not a reference to Hitchcock, merely a vote of confidence in DS's continued development)

    +1

    Edit: Looking forward to secret rooms. Hurry up!!!

    Post edited by ArtAngel on
  • I'm just glad DAZ decided to create a bridge to Blender. I haven't done much in Daz Studio lately. I spend most of my time in Blender, and with my new Computer it just rocks. I was going to create a dual 10core Xeon system (uses too much power & too much can go wrong) but was able to get a AMD 2950x ,cheaply along with some great aftermarket air cooling (https://www.amazon.com/quiet-Computer-Cooler-250TDP-Silent/dp/B07J589GHF/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=threadripper+cooler&qid=1598334710&sr=8-2)! The water cooling solution that Alienware Area 51 treadripper edition used in their systems was just trash. If you have a treadripper and a area 51 case I highly recommend switching to this cooler it is worth every penny!!!! I just rock Evee lately.

  • Silent WinterSilent Winter Posts: 3,766
    ArtAngel said:
    ArtAngel said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    What, is Daz moving to New Zealand...?

    I wish.

     

    There is a lot of stuff still coming for Daz Studio, I can't guarantee a 4.13 release because we might skip it and go straight to 4.14. The changelog shows some stuff that has been more or less completed and there is other stuff in the early R&D phases that I think is exciting as well.

     

    Thanks for being interested in what's coming next in Daz Studio.)

    Just curious ...  about skipping the 4.13 ... I may have a phobia or two but none relate to the number 13, however hotels often don't go 13 while others also avoid 14, especially in East Asia, by skipping the floors via the elevator button. At Pont de l'Alma Princess Diana died at the 13th pillar, the Columbia space shuttle disaster was the 13th flight, so is it fair to ask, if no  4.13, is it based on similar logic to why G5 skipped to G8 or something else?

    Covid19 sure puts a wrench into things but I heard rumors that tthe software was changinging to something a little different than we are use  to.

    Not sure where you heard those rumours - only things I've heard simply point to exciting developments (but nothing that'd mean you'd have to relearn DS from scratch or that DS is heading south - more like north...maybe north by northwest...which is not a reference to Hitchcock, merely a vote of confidence in DS's continued development)

    +1

    Edit: Looking forward to secret rooms. Hurry up!!!

    Secret rooms? (Or are you referring to my latest as-yet-unreleased set? - in which case, the ball is now in Daz's court ;) )

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    McGyver said:

    I hope they go South... Draper is South of Salt Lake City... They were lots more fun in the Draper days.

    Bad DAZ/geography joke.

    Also 2020 has me pining for happier times... basically any year that isn't 2020 ...or more specifically 2016-2020.

    Yeesh.

    Indeedyes

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    What, is Daz moving to New Zealand...?

    I wish.

     

    There is a lot of stuff still coming for Daz Studio, I can't guarantee a 4.13 release because we might skip it and go straight to 4.14. The changelog shows some stuff that has been more or less completed and there is other stuff in the early R&D phases that I think is exciting as well.

     

    I am also excited for the new store software, but it isn't holding up new features in Daz Studio, and Daz Studio isn't holding up the new store. As far as the COVID-19 goes, the Daz Studio team has transitioned to working from home really, really well and we have even brought on new staff.

     

    Thanks for being interested in what's coming next in Daz Studio.

    Thank you for the input and information, new improvements are something to look forward to. Its great you guys have learned to adept and are staying safe in these trying time. . if ya got sick it would surely slow down on users getting their daz fix wink and heaven knows the riots that would ensue.

    I too and hoping for better times coming soon. I think the age of covid is grating on people.  Stay safe and stay innovating

     

  • DAZ_Rawb said:

    What, is Daz moving to New Zealand...?

    I wish.

     

    There is a lot of stuff still coming for Daz Studio, I can't guarantee a 4.13 release because we might skip it and go straight to 4.14. The changelog shows some stuff that has been more or less completed and there is other stuff in the early R&D phases that I think is exciting as well.

     

    I am also excited for the new store software, but it isn't holding up new features in Daz Studio, and Daz Studio isn't holding up the new store. As far as the COVID-19 goes, the Daz Studio team has transitioned to working from home really, really well and we have even brought on new staff.

     

    Thanks for being interested in what's coming next in Daz Studio.

    since you are implying knowledge of the R&D is Daz working on Better posing/manipulation for animation IE: grab the hand move it to the location it needs to be and the arm and shoulders follow. As well as Glue this part of character A to that part of character B to stop a never ending need to fight slip.? Try doing a scene with two dancers together you'll see what I mean

  • While you're waiting, you can try some of mcasuals daz scripts..here is one that could help https://sites.google.com/site/mcasualsdazscripts2/mcjholdo

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,797
    Ivy said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    What, is Daz moving to New Zealand...?

    I wish.

     

    There is a lot of stuff still coming for Daz Studio, I can't guarantee a 4.13 release because we might skip it and go straight to 4.14. The changelog shows some stuff that has been more or less completed and there is other stuff in the early R&D phases that I think is exciting as well.

     

    I am also excited for the new store software, but it isn't holding up new features in Daz Studio, and Daz Studio isn't holding up the new store. As far as the COVID-19 goes, the Daz Studio team has transitioned to working from home really, really well and we have even brought on new staff.

     

    Thanks for being interested in what's coming next in Daz Studio.

    Thank you for the input and information, new improvements are something to look forward to. Its great you guys have learned to adept and are staying safe in these trying time. . if ya got sick it would surely slow down on users getting their daz fix wink and heaven knows the riots that would ensue.

    I too and hoping for better times coming soon. I think the age of covid is grating on people.  Stay safe and stay innovating

     

    I suspect most PAs worked from their homes before Covid19. But did the programmers?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,252
    nicstt said:

    I've always thought Studio 5 should be based on Blender. With Blender's introduction of long term support from 2.83, it is very viable.

    ... I can't see it happening though.

    ...+1

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,252
    edited August 2020
    McGyver said:

    I hope they go South... Draper is South of Salt Lake City... They were lots more fun in the Draper days.

    Bad DAZ/geography joke.

    Also 2020 has me pining for happier times... basically any year that isn't 2020 ...or more specifically 2016-2020.

    Yeesh.

    ...yeah I remember those heady days back then. Sales that were pretty straightforward without having to purchase something you didn't need of collect points or whatever to get a discount, you didn't need a beast of a machine to create art (or thousands invested in GPUs to render a scene), vouchers that stacked with coupons, a gallery that actually required you to put your best renders forward.(that also offered rewards for submitting), a forums search function that actually made sense and worked, the beginnings of the Complaint Thread, the annual Stonemason challenge, and in particular, community members who are no longer with us. 

    Yeah, miss those days sometimes.

     

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,252

    I think to some degree the store has been changing some things. Pro bundles are changed. They have  a quicker release schedule. I have found more bugs in products. The QA team is not resolving bugs in bug tracker. 

    I think to some extent the changes appear in my opinion to be generated more short term cash flow. 

    The problem for me, is the quality has diminished. Making every item dforce rather than to provide fits, means clothing takes a lot of time to use. Overuse of Marvelous designer means the outfits have less realism. 

    I think the store needs to work more on producing quality items, and throttle back the rapid release schedule. But as long as people buy it, I'm sure it is quick cash.... It will continue to happen.

    ...+1

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,252
    mavante said:

    Making every item dforce rather than to provide fits, means clothing takes a lot of time to use.

    In my experience, dForce has been catastrophic to animation in Daz Studio. (Someone inevitably chimes in with, "Well, DS isn't really made for animation," which I studiously ignore for too many reasons to list—including Daz's own promo videos for DS that showcase animation).

    ..I've bought very little clothing content since everything went dForce as I have old tech and not about to wait around for a sim to run, then having to do it over if I tweak the pose.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,252
    ArtAngel said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    What, is Daz moving to New Zealand...?

    I wish.

     

    There is a lot of stuff still coming for Daz Studio, I can't guarantee a 4.13 release because we might skip it and go straight to 4.14. The changelog shows some stuff that has been more or less completed and there is other stuff in the early R&D phases that I think is exciting as well.

     

    Thanks for being interested in what's coming next in Daz Studio.)

    Just curious ...  about skipping the 4.13 ... I may have a phobia or two but none relate to the number 13, however hotels often don't go 13 while others also avoid 14, especially in East Asia, by skipping the floors via the elevator button. At Pont de l'Alma Princess Diana died at the 13th pillar, the Columbia space shuttle disaster was the 13th flight, so is it fair to ask, if no  4.13, is it based on similar logic to why G5 skipped to G8 or something else?

    Covid19 sure puts a wrench into things but I heard rumors that tthe software was changinging to something a little different than we are use  to.

    Not sure where you heard those rumours - only things I've heard simply point to exciting developments (but nothing that'd mean you'd have to relearn DS from scratch or that DS is heading south - more like north...maybe north by northwest...which is not a reference to Hitchcock, merely a vote of confidence in DS's continued development)

    ...it's all in the perspsective.

  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,955
    ArtAngel said:
    4.13, is it based on similar logic to why G5 skipped to G8 or something else?

    Covid19 sure puts a wrench into things but I heard rumors that tthe software was changinging to something a little different than we are use  to.

    Program build numbers are internal numbering established by the company or devs.  The actual build number of the public release is irrelivant (as long as its not going backwards)

    As for Genesis 4 becoming Genesis 8, it is because the first four generations of Daz figures were known as Generation 1, 2, 3 & 4.  The first Genesis figure was introduced as Generation 5 and you will see Victoria 5 and friends are for Genesis 1.  Genesis 3 is Generation 7 and Daz concluded that Genesis 4 would be too easily confused with Generation 4 so they skipped it and called it Genesis 8 as it is Generation 8 of Daz figures.

     

    Rumors are only remors and worthless hot air until offical releases come out.

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,249

    Yeah, there's no reason to think that DAZ Central has anything to do with waning DAZ Studio support or that the program will change in any significant way. As far as it being more like Blender, I'd much prefer they just keep adding features to the bridge (well, I'd actually prefer they look into whether a real-time Substance Painter bridge like the one UE has would be possible).  :)

    The weekly new character bundles used to bug me a bit because I remember a time when a new Victoria or something like Lee was a huge deal. Now I just think of them as product-heavy release days with a DAZ Original texture. In my opinion, the texture quality is improving (despite my complaints about Babina and Sahira having tan lines, they're both excellent textures), but the clothing releases seem rushed - not bad products, but as if the PA was on too tight of a schedule to do their best. Looking to Artstation talent has been beneficial, but I wish they could come on as regulars rather than giving us a single very good but very stylized product.

    Speaking of Bridges.  They left out a Poser bridge.  I really don't think that DAZ3D needs to worry about loosing folks to Poser, esp when the bulk of the end users love Genesis 3/8.  I really needed such a bridge yesterday.  FBX in Poser is sort of borked so importing to Poser kept crashing Poser!  SO I exported via OBJ and now am trying to figure out how to set up the LED's in Poser to actually work correctly since the UV material space is set up to have the LED's in their own material zone.  Making lights in Poser is not as easy as in DS but this is a Poser only product and I really liked this environment as it's simple but interesting.  A Bridge MIGHT have allowed the lights to come over and convert over to Superfly or even Firefly and give me what I needed.  Right now Baggins is helping me but it's still a struggle!  

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,249
    Sevrin said:
    DAZ_Rawb said:

    What, is Daz moving to New Zealand...?

    I wish.

     

    There is a lot of stuff still coming for Daz Studio, I can't guarantee a 4.13 release because we might skip it and go straight to 4.14. The changelog shows some stuff that has been more or less completed and there is other stuff in the early R&D phases that I think is exciting as well.

     

    I am also excited for the new store software, but it isn't holding up new features in Daz Studio, and Daz Studio isn't holding up the new store. As far as the COVID-19 goes, the Daz Studio team has transitioned to working from home really, really well and we have even brought on new staff.

     

    Thanks for being interested in what's coming next in Daz Studio.

    HAHAHAHA  Pass the pipe, after you've disinfected it!  LMAO 

  • While you're waiting, you can try some of mcasuals daz scripts..here is one that could help https://sites.google.com/site/mcasualsdazscripts2/mcjholdo

    thanks this will make a huge difference in if Daz is worth animating

  • akmerlowakmerlow Posts: 1,124
    Overuse of Marvelous designer means the outfits have less realism. 
     

    What does this mean? I thought in Marvalous you create clothing using the most close method to real life clothes designing, unlike polygonal modelling etc.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Mattymanx said:
    ArtAngel said:
    4.13, is it based on similar logic to why G5 skipped to G8 or something else?

    Covid19 sure puts a wrench into things but I heard rumors that tthe software was changinging to something a little different than we are use  to.

    Program build numbers are internal numbering established by the company or devs.  The actual build number of the public release is irrelivant (as long as its not going backwards)

    As for Genesis 4 becoming Genesis 8, it is because the first four generations of Daz figures were known as Generation 1, 2, 3 & 4.  The first Genesis figure was introduced as Generation 5 and you will see Victoria 5 and friends are for Genesis 1.  Genesis 3 is Generation 7 and Daz concluded that Genesis 4 would be too easily confused with Generation 4 so they skipped it and called it Genesis 8 as it is Generation 8 of Daz figures.

     

    Rumors are only remors and worthless hot air until offical releases come out.

    +1

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Overuse of Marvelous designer means the outfits have less realism. 

    MD allows one with the skills to create very realistic garments. I don't know how its overuse can result in a lessoning of the product's quality.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited August 2020

    deleted due to double post

    Post edited by nicstt on
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