Millawa Cryomancer Bundle

tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,618
edited November 2020 in The Commons
I think I like this bundle better than the 1st. https://www.daz3d.com/millawa-8-cryomancer-bundle

That said, not liking this trend of Daz splitting up One "normal" sized bundle into Two tiny bundles and charging more money overall.

I really like the base character for the 1st bundle, but prefer the clothes in this one. I already have this bundles hair.

I could do without the wings
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  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,618
    The lab is a nice touch https://www.daz3d.com/cryolab
  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    The wings remind me of the ones in that Grimes video project.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,058

    I like this bundle better. I'm glad I passed on yesterday's. But if Daz is going to throw a Genesis 3 hair that I already own into a Genesis 8 bundle, why not give me a further discount on the bundle or include a fit for Genesis 8?

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,618
    edited November 2020
    xyer0 said:

    I like this bundle better. I'm glad I passed on yesterday's. But if Daz is going to throw a Genesis 3 hair that I already own into a Genesis 8 bundle, why not give me a further discount on the bundle or include a fit for Genesis 8?

    Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. When I saw this "mini" bundle came with hair I already own, plus having bought yesterdays bundle, I expected a pretty nice purple banner, but have seen none yet.

    As far as the hair fitting, I have used Genesis 3 hair on G8 figures before with no difficulty
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  • I don't understand why it is called the "Millawa 8" Cryomancer Bundle when it does not include the Millawa 8 character.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,483

    I'm struggling to see what the difference is between these 2 products, earlier one I already have, that would make me want to spend another $20

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8-females

    Is it just another vendor and Daz trying to make as much cash out of their customers as they can without any real effort.

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,211
    edited November 2020
    Escribano said:

    I don't understand why it is called the "Millawa 8" Cryomancer Bundle when it does not include the Millawa 8 character.

    Have no idea, but I assume it's because people complained about getting Kjaer 8 in both of his bundles since they "got the same character twice" and they didn't get any sort of discount for owning him.

    Seems like it's less of a hassle to exclude her in the second bundle.

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  • DripDrip Posts: 1,206
    scorpio said:

    I'm struggling to see what the difference is between these 2 products, earlier one I already have, that would make me want to spend another $20

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8-females

    Is it just another vendor and Daz trying to make as much cash out of their customers as they can without any real effort.

    Well, the new ones seem cheaper (base price without discounts), and they come with built-in support for G8M. I'm not sure what advantages the old product holds over the new one. Maybe some alternative textures or material zone layout?

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,839
    scorpio said:

    I'm struggling to see what the difference is between these 2 products, earlier one I already have, that would make me want to spend another $20

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8-females

    Is it just another vendor and Daz trying to make as much cash out of their customers as they can without any real effort.

    I wondered what was the difference too at first, and then I saw that the new one includes a G8M version.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,483
    Drip said:
    scorpio said:

    I'm struggling to see what the difference is between these 2 products, earlier one I already have, that would make me want to spend another $20

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8-females

    Is it just another vendor and Daz trying to make as much cash out of their customers as they can without any real effort.

    Well, the new ones seem cheaper (base price without discounts), and they come with built-in support for G8M. I'm not sure what advantages the old product holds over the new one. Maybe some alternative textures or material zone layout?

    A fit for G8M isn't worth buying a product again, they are easy enough to parent to any figure, personally I see it as a bit of a rip off, I'm gettting really tired of being nickle and dimed to death here by vendors.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,058
    tsarist said:
    xyer0 said:

     

    As far as the hair fitting, I have used Genesis 3 hair on G8 figures before with no difficulty

    Me too, but I've had issues in the past autofitting AprilYSH hair to Genesis 8 and losing some of the morph functionality.

    Oh, I thought those wings looked familiar! Wow, the new Daz is becoming shameless.

  • HylasHylas Posts: 5,070
    edited November 2020
    xyer0 said:
    tsarist said:
    xyer0 said:

     

    As far as the hair fitting, I have used Genesis 3 hair on G8 figures before with no difficulty

    Me too, but I've had issues in the past autofitting AprilYSH hair to Genesis 8 and losing some of the morph functionality.

    Oh, I thought those wings looked familiar! Wow, the new Daz is becoming shameless.

    Don't use autofit for long G3 hair, it results in ugly bumps around the neck, even if you select the "Shoulder Length Hair" option.

    (A problem that I don't usually observe on G2 and Genesis hair, strangely.)

    Either parent it or use a converter. And I think there's a trick to make DAZ Studio think your G3 hair is G8, but I have yet to research this further.

     

    ETA:
    I got curious about that "trick" and looked it up, I had meant to look into this for a long time anyway:

    Gordig said:

    Load the hair into the scene, making sure NOT to autofit it. Click the “hamburger” icon in the Scene tab, then go to Edit - Change Scene Identification. At the botto, change “preferred base” from G3F to G8F. Afterwards, you can “fit to” the G8F character natively, without the Autofit dialogue popping up. 

    I’m telling you all this from memory, so some of the terminology may not be correct, but hopefully you can figure it out from here. There are plenty of tutorials on the forums and online if you’re still having trouble. 


    I didn't find the "Hamburger symbol", but you can change the Scene Identification by going Edit -> Figure -> Scene Identification.

    Works like a charm!

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  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,173

    i got a 10% off but its for yesterdays bundle, which I did buy yesterday.

  • arbee999arbee999 Posts: 104

    While I don't think I have a use for much of the bundle pieces right now, I will say I really like Zhao

    I also think the Cryolab looks great

  • scorpio said:

    I'm struggling to see what the difference is between these 2 products, earlier one I already have, that would make me want to spend another $20

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8-females

    Is it just another vendor and Daz trying to make as much cash out of their customers as they can without any real effort.

    I'd say it's likely a mistake. Given the general chaos going on, plain old human error is quite possible and far more likely than some insidious plan to rip off customers.

  • LeticiaLeticia Posts: 126

    Well, I'm irritated.  I got a 20% off the first bundle purple banner... and then today, a 10% off the first bundle purple banner (why?  I bought it yesterday?), and the 10% off both if you buy both today...

    If they're trying to train me to not buy bundles until I get a better offer, it's working.  That's an additional 19% off bundle one I didn't get and 10% off bundle 2 I can't get because I'm not buying them both today.

    So at this point, I'm going to sit on it until tonight and see if the situation changes.

  • Can anyone identify what Jacket/Pants clothing are being used in the Zhao HD promo image? 

    https://www.daz3d.com/zhao-hd-for-genesis-8-female

    Please/Thanks :)

     

     

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,483
    scorpio said:

    I'm struggling to see what the difference is between these 2 products, earlier one I already have, that would make me want to spend another $20

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8-females

    Is it just another vendor and Daz trying to make as much cash out of their customers as they can without any real effort.

    I'd say it's likely a mistake. Given the general chaos going on, plain old human error is quite possible and far more likely than some insidious plan to rip off customers.

    Whats the 'mistake' the release of the new product?

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,839
    scorpio said:

    I'm struggling to see what the difference is between these 2 products, earlier one I already have, that would make me want to spend another $20

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8-females

    Is it just another vendor and Daz trying to make as much cash out of their customers as they can without any real effort.

    I'd say it's likely a mistake. Given the general chaos going on, plain old human error is quite possible and far more likely than some insidious plan to rip off customers.

    There's no mistake, the older product is for G8F and the new one is for both G8F and G8M.

  • Leana said:
    scorpio said:

    I'm struggling to see what the difference is between these 2 products, earlier one I already have, that would make me want to spend another $20

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8-females

    Is it just another vendor and Daz trying to make as much cash out of their customers as they can without any real effort.

    I'd say it's likely a mistake. Given the general chaos going on, plain old human error is quite possible and far more likely than some insidious plan to rip off customers.

    There's no mistake, the older product is for G8F and the new one is for both G8F and G8M.

    And given how minor a change that is, it hardly warrants being considered a new product. If it were clothing fit to a new figure, sure. But wings just need to be moved into place on a character. Also given that the new Daz Original version contains the entire original product plus a G8M fit, it's truly unlikely that the original product was intended to remain in the store. I've bounced a ticket to see if it's intentional but I don't buy into the malicious intent that Scorpio is implying here. It just seems more likely that something that was meant to be a change of ownership and update of a product was accidently packaged as a new SKU. 

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,046
    scorpio said:

    I'm struggling to see what the difference is between these 2 products, earlier one I already have, that would make me want to spend another $20

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8

    https://www.daz3d.com/exmachina-wings-for-genesis-8-females

    Is it just another vendor and Daz trying to make as much cash out of their customers as they can without any real effort.

    Wow, thanks for mentioning this! I already have the first wings. I had the bundle in my cart waiting to see if the price goes down for owning the first bundle and the hair, but now this! Unless the bundle goes down 50%, definitely deleting it! 

  • I'll admit the name of the bundle got me super excited at first, thinking there might be some nice cold/ice effects in it. 
     

    But no, the only "cold" thing in the bundle is the cryolab. 
     

    Am I just confused about what a "cryomancer" is or does the bundle name just not make sense?

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,618
    Kurotalia said:

    I'll admit the name of the bundle got me super excited at first, thinking there might be some nice cold/ice effects in it. 
     

    But no, the only "cold" thing in the bundle is the cryolab. 
     

    Am I just confused about what a "cryomancer" is or does the bundle name just not make sense?

    I think they just wanted a really cool name
  • Cora ReginaCora Regina Posts: 731
    edited November 2020
    Kurotalia said:

    I'll admit the name of the bundle got me super excited at first, thinking there might be some nice cold/ice effects in it. 
     

    But no, the only "cold" thing in the bundle is the cryolab. 
     

    Am I just confused about what a "cryomancer" is or does the bundle name just not make sense?

    The bundle name just doesn't make sense. Cryomancers can control/manipulate ice, in the same way that pyromancers do for fire, electromancers do for electricty, etc.

    There is absolutely nothing about this bundle or any of the content that deals with this. They threw in a cryolab, decided the word sounded cool, and that's it. I would usually expect a cyberpunk bundle with a magic twist to be focused on a character that used electromancy or technomancy (and they already have Moirah the Conjurer), and so I was actually kind of excited to see how they worked cryomancy in.

    Turns out they didn't even bother.

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  • Kurotalia said:

    I'll admit the name of the bundle got me super excited at first, thinking there might be some nice cold/ice effects in it. 
     

    But no, the only "cold" thing in the bundle is the cryolab. 
     

    Am I just confused about what a "cryomancer" is or does the bundle name just not make sense?

    The bundle name just doesn't make sense. Cryomancers can control/manipulate ice, in the same way that pyromancers do for fire, electromancers do for electricty, etc.

    There is absolutely nothing about this bundle or any of the content that deals with this. They threw in a cryolab, decided the word sounded cool, and that's it. I would usually expect a cyberpunk bundle with a magic twist to be focused on a character that used electromancy or technomancy (and they already have Moirah the Conjurer), and so I was actually kind of excited to see how they worked cryomancy in.

    Turns out they didn't even bother.

    Glad to know I'm not the only person disappointed about this. 

  • Can anyone identify what Jacket/Pants clothing are being used in the Zhao HD promo image? 

    https://www.daz3d.com/zhao-hd-for-genesis-8-female

    Please/Thanks :)

     

     

    Hi, it's the Razors Edge outfit with its texture add-on.

    https://www.daz3d.com/razors-edge-outfit-for-genesis-8-females

    https://www.daz3d.com/razors-edge-outfit-textures

     

  • Cora ReginaCora Regina Posts: 731
    edited November 2020
    Kurotalia said:
    Kurotalia said:

    I'll admit the name of the bundle got me super excited at first, thinking there might be some nice cold/ice effects in it. 
     

    But no, the only "cold" thing in the bundle is the cryolab. 
     

    Am I just confused about what a "cryomancer" is or does the bundle name just not make sense?

    The bundle name just doesn't make sense. Cryomancers can control/manipulate ice, in the same way that pyromancers do for fire, electromancers do for electricty, etc.

    There is absolutely nothing about this bundle or any of the content that deals with this. They threw in a cryolab, decided the word sounded cool, and that's it. I would usually expect a cyberpunk bundle with a magic twist to be focused on a character that used electromancy or technomancy (and they already have Moirah the Conjurer), and so I was actually kind of excited to see how they worked cryomancy in.

    Turns out they didn't even bother.

    Glad to know I'm not the only person disappointed about this.

    Right? We've got electromancy and technomancy stuff but it would've been really neat to see a character who used ice/cold powers instead! I can see where it could fit into a cyberpunk setting as well. With conventional natural resources running low, the megacorporations respond by doing what they do best and either harvest another natural resource (natural-born cryomancers) or create them artificially in order to serve as a workforce to keep all the tech that supports the upper crust lifestyle cool, etc.

    Or what about quantum magnetic levitation?!

    Instead we get a cryolab and nothing else that even hints at the title, not even shoulda-been-part-of-the-bundle add-ons. Not that the cryolab doesn't look cool (heh) but I think tsarist has the right of it unironically. They just wanted a "really cool" name (heh heh) and that's as far as the thought process went.

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  • Fille123 said:

    Awesome! Thank you, much appreciated!

  • Of course if you go to the original meaning of the -mancer suffix, 'one who practices a certain form of divination' then a cryomancer would be someone who practices divination using cold or ice. (Like reading the frost crystals of a cryopod to determine the future of the frozen person inside...)  but yeah, I'd have love to have seen a set of ice magic fx and props.

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,644
    arbee999 said:

    While I don't think I have a use for much of the bundle pieces right now, I will say I really like Zhao

    I also think the Cryolab looks great

    Zhao and cryolab: I concur!

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