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Evelyn is really cute. Curious to see your test renders of her!

BamboozlerBamboozler Posts: 249
edited December 2020 in The Commons

She's cute and a bit different. If anyone has gotten her and wouldn't mind showing her off, that would be great. :)  https://www.daz3d.com/evelyn-for-genesis-8-female

 

(Evelyn by Cinnabar, sorry for anyconfusion. I should have been more specific.)

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  • helgi66helgi66 Posts: 19

    If your asking about Evelyn by Cinnabar; I couldn't tell you. It's conflicting with another character called Evelyn (by Maelwenn) that was sold by Daz

    and loads the Maelwenn morphs instead when I try to use it :(

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,596

    yeah I thought you initially meant that Evelyn

    always post a link, it helps DAZ-DEALS find posts too

    https://www.daz3d.com/evelyn-for-genesis-8-female

  • Mark_e593e0a5Mark_e593e0a5 Posts: 1,599

    helgi66 said:

    If your asking about Evelyn by Cinnabar; I couldn't tell you. It's conflicting with another character called Evelyn (by Maelwenn) that was sold by Daz

    and loads the Maelwenn morphs instead when I try to use it :(

    Its really an issue. Why can't PA's name their morphs individually, like some do, e.g. SASE, Krashwerks, Mousso and others? Why does DAZ allow this on non-DAZ Original characters? I suppose DAZ has a set of rules for PA's. There are gazillons of characters for G3 and G8, so there has to be some naming convention to avoid morph conficts.

    Alternatively, provide a means of renaming morphs easily inside Studio.... the not-so-great QC on DAZ side really affects the business model, in my opinion.

  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,977
    I'll have to pass on this until its fixed. Can't keep track oof how many characters are like this.
  • BamboozlerBamboozler Posts: 249

    Oh dear, I hadn't thought of this collision.

    I've recently been having a terrible time with Midori and EJ Midori. They collided. I uninstalled both, but somehow, everytime I generate a Gen8 female, I get the figure I selected, with Midori dialed in 100%. I have to dial her out manually.

    I put in a ticket for support with this issue, but it was never resolved. 

     

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943

    Bamboozler said:

    Oh dear, I hadn't thought of this collision.

    I've recently been having a terrible time with Midori and EJ Midori. They collided. I uninstalled both, but somehow, everytime I generate a Gen8 female, I get the figure I selected, with Midori dialed in 100%. I have to dial her out manually.

    I put in a ticket for support with this issue, but it was never resolved. 

     

     

    Getting rid of the "unwanted morphs loading with Genesis ...":

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/4448486/#Comment_4448486

     

  • BamboozlerBamboozler Posts: 249

     

    Getting rid of the "unwanted morphs loading with Genesis ...":

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/4448486/#Comment_4448486

    I'll try that, thanks!

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,979

    Here's one, with the head dialed down to 50%:


     

    g8f_cin-evelyn_head-50.png
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  • BamboozlerBamboozler Posts: 249

     

    Getting rid of the "unwanted morphs loading with Genesis ...":

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/4448486/#Comment_4448486

    I tried these methods and I'm still getting EJ Midori dialed 100% in to every Gen8 female I load. Even though I ininstalled the figure and did the zero out stuff. It's maddening. I also deleted any character presets that had any possiblity of correlation. Any other ideas?

  • BamboozlerBamboozler Posts: 249

    Taoz said:

    Here's one, with the head dialed down to 50%:

     

    Oh, she's pretty! I love the soft, creamy skin. The translucency gives her an old-fashioned vibe. 

     

  • FenixPhoenixFenixPhoenix Posts: 3,119
    edited December 2020

    Bamboozler said:

     

    Getting rid of the "unwanted morphs loading with Genesis ...":

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/4448486/#Comment_4448486

    I tried these methods and I'm still getting EJ Midori dialed 100% in to every Gen8 female I load. Even though I ininstalled the figure and did the zero out stuff. It's maddening. I also deleted any character presets that had any possiblity of correlation. Any other ideas?

    Check to see if you have it installed with connect (as in you installed it from within the Daz Studio program). Those morphs get saved in the cloud and they can only be deleted by uninstalling from inside of DAZ studio. Ex. Locate the product in Smart Content > left click > Uninstall...

    Post edited by FenixPhoenix on
  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    helgi66 said:

    If your asking about Evelyn by Cinnabar; I couldn't tell you. It's conflicting with another character called Evelyn (by Maelwenn) that was sold by Daz

    and loads the Maelwenn morphs instead when I try to use it :(

    That's a bummer.  Evelyn/Lynn was one of the first products I ever bought from Daz and I wouldn't want to lose her, and also odd that she's out of the store. sad Did you put in a ticket? 

  • BamboozlerBamboozler Posts: 249

    FenixPhoenix said:

     

    Check to see if you have it installed with connect (as in you installed it from within the Daz Studio program). Those morphs get saved in the cloud and they can only be deleted by uninstalling from inside of DAZ studio. Ex. Locate the product in Smart Content > left click > Uninstall...

     

    I was hoping this would do the trick, but no luck. Thank you for trying.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Bamboozler said:

     

    Getting rid of the "unwanted morphs loading with Genesis ...":

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/4448486/#Comment_4448486

    I tried these methods and I'm still getting EJ Midori dialed 100% in to every Gen8 female I load. Even though I ininstalled the figure and did the zero out stuff. It's maddening. I also deleted any character presets that had any possiblity of correlation. Any other ideas?

    This is basically the same advice as was described on the link, but if this doesn't work, it means that the advice is not followed correctly (as it is written).

    To fix any ill-behaving morphs, do as follows;

    1. Load your base figure or the developer version to an empty scene. ("Genesis 8 Basic Female" or "Genesis 8 Female Dev Load")
    2. Select the figure
    3. Select "Show Hidden properties" in the Parameters-Tab, drop down menu (right-click)
    4. Zero the figure (Found in Parameters-Tab, drop down menu)
    5. Memorize the figure (Found in Parameters-Tab, drop down menu)
    6. File->Save As->Support Asset->Save Modified Assets

    This procedure will zero the default value in the ill-behaving morph/morphs, and while saving DS also shows you a list of the morphs it is changing.

  • BamboozlerBamboozler Posts: 249

    PerttiA said:

    Bamboozler said:

     

    Getting rid of the "unwanted morphs loading with Genesis ...":

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/4448486/#Comment_4448486

    I tried these methods and I'm still getting EJ Midori dialed 100% in to every Gen8 female I load. Even though I ininstalled the figure and did the zero out stuff. It's maddening. I also deleted any character presets that had any possiblity of correlation. Any other ideas?

    This is basically the same advice as was described on the link, but if this doesn't work, it means that the advice is not followed correctly (as it is written).

    To fix any ill-behaving morphs, do as follows;

    1. Load your base figure or the developer version to an empty scene. ("Genesis 8 Basic Female" or "Genesis 8 Female Dev Load")
    2. Select the figure
    3. Select "Show Hidden properties" in the Parameters-Tab, drop down menu (right-click)
    4. Zero the figure (Found in Parameters-Tab, drop down menu)
    5. Memorize the figure (Found in Parameters-Tab, drop down menu)
    6. File->Save As->Support Asset->Save Modified Assets

    This procedure will zero the default value in the ill-behaving morph/morphs, and while saving DS also shows you a list of the morphs it is changing.

     

    I've followed this process (yes, as written) countless times. Countless. This last time, I went through it, saved the modified asset, saw the list of changes run by, and tada, there she was, with no Midori. I deleted Genesis 8 Basic Female from the scene. Then I put Genesis 8 Basic Female back in the scene. No Midori! Just as she should be! Great.

    Then I closed Daz, rebooted my computer, loaded Daz, and then loaded Genesis 8 Basic Female. Guess what? Midori is back. Every. Single. Time. No matter what I do.

    The same thing happens if I save Basic Female, delete her from the scene, and then load anything that isn't Basic Female. Midori shows up. I've wasted two days of my life constantly loading, zeroing, saving, fiddling, running google searches on similar problems.

    Nothing works. I'm frustrated beyond words. 

     

     

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,771

    Bamboozler said:

    PerttiA said:

    Bamboozler said:

     

    Getting rid of the "unwanted morphs loading with Genesis ...":

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/4448486/#Comment_4448486

    I tried these methods and I'm still getting EJ Midori dialed 100% in to every Gen8 female I load. Even though I ininstalled the figure and did the zero out stuff. It's maddening. I also deleted any character presets that had any possiblity of correlation. Any other ideas?

    This is basically the same advice as was described on the link, but if this doesn't work, it means that the advice is not followed correctly (as it is written).

    To fix any ill-behaving morphs, do as follows;

    1. Load your base figure or the developer version to an empty scene. ("Genesis 8 Basic Female" or "Genesis 8 Female Dev Load")
    2. Select the figure
    3. Select "Show Hidden properties" in the Parameters-Tab, drop down menu (right-click)
    4. Zero the figure (Found in Parameters-Tab, drop down menu)
    5. Memorize the figure (Found in Parameters-Tab, drop down menu)
    6. File->Save As->Support Asset->Save Modified Assets

    This procedure will zero the default value in the ill-behaving morph/morphs, and while saving DS also shows you a list of the morphs it is changing.

     

    I've followed this process (yes, as written) countless times. Countless. This last time, I went through it, saved the modified asset, saw the list of changes run by, and tada, there she was, with no Midori. I deleted Genesis 8 Basic Female from the scene. Then I put Genesis 8 Basic Female back in the scene. No Midori! Just as she should be! Great.

    Then I closed Daz, rebooted my computer, loaded Daz, and then loaded Genesis 8 Basic Female. Guess what? Midori is back. Every. Single. Time. No matter what I do.

    The same thing happens if I save Basic Female, delete her from the scene, and then load anything that isn't Basic Female. Midori shows up. I've wasted two days of my life constantly loading, zeroing, saving, fiddling, running google searches on similar problems.

    Nothing works. I'm frustrated beyond words.

    How was the content installed?

  • BamboozlerBamboozler Posts: 249

     

    How was the content installed?

    Hi, Richard. Thanks for responding. All my Daz downloads go through Install Manager.

    I've also tried uninstalling and deleting Genesis 8 Basic Female, redownloading, and reinstalling. No help there either. I just don't know what else to try. I did put in a support ticket on this months ago but I got passed around from person to person, waited weeks between responses, and eventually they just closed the ticket without a resolution.

     

     

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,771

    So you don't have anything in /Data/Cloud (other, perhaps, than a meta folder) in any content directory?

    Re8sntalling the base figure is not going to do anything for non-zero defaults or name clashes, those are separate files that are read in when you load the base figure (or any character for the base).

  • BamboozlerBamboozler Posts: 249

    I have no /Data/Cloud pathway anywhere.

    I went nuclear on the problem today. I used the morph parameters settings in the parameters tab to locate the morph paths of Midori Head and Midori body and manually deleted them from my drive.

    It's making Daz grind very, very hard and take a lot of time. Gen8 males load just fine, but Gen8 Females are taking a very long time. Several minutes, although males load within seconds. HOWEVER, I have sucessfully loaded three Gen8 Female figures and no evil unwanted Midori has appeared.

    I'm guessing that Daz is searching for something it isn't finding before finally doing what it's supposed to do. It would be nice if it didn't take forever to load a Gen8 female but it sure is nice not having the cursed Midori haunting me.

     

     

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,771

    Check the final lines of Help>Troubleshooting>View Log file after loading Genesis 8 Female, that may show up at least some causes of the delay.

  • BamboozlerBamboozler Posts: 249

    Oh, good idea. I should have thought of that. I'm repeatedly getting:

     

    2020-12-17 15:08:06.186 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6777): Could not find output property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis

    2020-12-17 15:07:24.969 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ

    2020-12-17 15:07:24.629 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(9174): Failed to add user alias property to node.
    2020-12-17 15:07:24.629 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(1680): Failed to create alias!
     

    What does all that mean? It seems angry.

     

     

     

  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,977
    helgi66 said:

    If your asking about Evelyn by Cinnabar; I couldn't tell you. It's conflicting with another character called Evelyn (by Maelwenn) that was sold by Daz

    and loads the Maelwenn morphs instead when I try to use it :(

    Did you put a ticket for this? I had a problem with a "Rose" character and it was eventually fixed.
  • BamboozlerBamboozler Posts: 249
    edited December 2020

    I don't know about Evelyn, but I put in a ticket for EJ Midori and the problem was never resolved.

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  • jardinejardine Posts: 1,205

    i'm putting in a ticket for the cinnabar evelyn versus maelwenn evelyn & lynn morph load conflict.  the only way i can get cinnabar's evelyn to load with the correct shape is to uninstall maelwenn's wonderful characters.

    j

     

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