1 RTX 3090 water cooled Hybrid vs 3 GPU's combined in Daz3D
junk
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Hi everyone! I didn't know where else to post this within the forums. This seemed the best fit.
I hate seeing myself but I thought I would share that I created a long, boring video on me competing my three GPU computer setup vs my new RTX 3090 Hybrid from EVGA. I went on little rants so it got longer and longer.. I do apologize.
The three video cards I had in my old computer are:
- 1 RTX 2080 (8GB of RAM)
- 1 GTX 1080 Ti (11GB of RAM)
- 1 GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid water cooled (11GB of RAM)
I try to answer which items are faster/slower with the new 1 GPU configuration including:
- Does Daz Studio LOAD a semi-complicated scene faster with 1 video card vs 3?
- Do simple events within Daz Studio operate faster such as waiting for windows to close?
- Do renders render faster? If so, by how much.
- Are there less crashes due to running out of dedicated GPU RAM?
- Will there be any power savings?
- Will simply CLEARING a scene happen faster instead of two minutes?
I probably get a lot wrong but I tried my best as I get so frustrated with Daz Studio but also love it so much.
Thanks for viewing and any comments you might have.
Here's the link: (I was just given the opportunity to modify the intro image).
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I'd take the 3090; it has 24GB ram.
The 3 you list gives you 8 GB, doesn't really matter if they''re somewhat quicker as you'll either spend time trying to get scenes to fit (often not that long), or burn lots of cash on a 3090.
Outside of rendering, I'd say you might not see much difference.
What might help, turn the 2080 into a card that runs your monitors, and then try just using the 3090 for rendering - sure windows will still snaffle some RAM, but you might find it helps.
Hi Junk! Thank you for your video! Nice seeing your face ;-)
Also ...what brand and spec is your monitor?
Hey Jeni! Thanks for saying. My display is the "Acer Predator 34-inch Curved UltraWide QHD (3440 x 1440) NVIDIA G-Sync Widescreen Display" that I bought from Amazon Warehouse their scratch and dent portion. It was quite some time ago when I was more into gaming but works good for Daz too!
Thank you for posting this. Some very interesting information there.
Aah thank you so much Dim Reaper. I think if I could have removed the rambling, been more focused, got it down to ten minutes, it would have been much much better. But, I wanted it done and now it is.
Thank you! I am off to go look at some Acers ;-)
I cut it from the video but I sold all three GPU's for $1,419! Ebay takes their 10% share plus shipping costs but it still is more than I expected.
I'm just glad as it really helped offset the cost of the 3090 Hybrid card at $1,619.00 + tax.
You are absolutely right nicstt BUT when a scene fits within the 8GB of data I turn the 2080 back on since it is faster than the two 1080 TI's combined (shown in the video near the end). I also have the monitor connected to one of the 1080 Ti's so that I'm not using any more video ram of the 2080 than I need to.
You are also absolutely correct about there is NO difference outside of rendering with one GPU card.
cool job
Hey thank you so much nonesuch00!
...all the more now, I want a 3090.
Put me on the list of wanting a 3090 too... but looking at the price and the size of it is leaning me towards buying a new machine that has one in it be default.
I just envision too many ways it could go wrong if I try to jam it into my existing rig.
kyoto kid, yeah the 3090 is a beast at least by today's metrics.
Jason, at the wall I was getting 531 watts at the wall max during a minute of watching my watt meter. So you would want to target I believe 50% as your power supply for optimal wattage. In other words about 1000, 1100 or 1200 watt power supply.
Power is a big concern. My PSU is a 750, so that would be pushing the edge. The 3090 pre-built / customized machines I've seen all have 1,000 as the minimum. So your advice is sound.
I was also concerned about the size of the card; both fitting it in my case and the restriction to air flow.
I was thinking that if I am going to invest $1.5k in the card (which I believe is the MSRP, not the scalper price)... I might as well save up and invest in the new machine. If only for insurance that the $1.5k investment won't be lost along with my old desktop (which really isn't that old).
...part of the reason I am pleased about the decision to purchase a full size case. I did it primarily to give the components more breathing room and make it easier for me to perform maintenance and install upgrades with my stiff arthritic hands. The case has plenty of room for a single 3090 and the new PSU I just installed will easily support it. With 24 GB of VRAM I won't need a secondary GPU to drive the displays.
It was interesting to watch your vid to see in what ways it alligned with my thoughts.
I bought a 980ti for rendering, whilst using a 970 to drive 3 monitors.
I've been intending to upgrade since the 1080ti appeared, then figured I'd get a Titan, and I've just kept waiting. On the plus side, i've saved a lot of cash.
But pretty sure I'll go for 3090, Titan (if it appears) or AMD of similar ilk (I use Blender's Cycles to render).
Happy shopping Jeni! I think that pricing should be pretty good around this time. My particular monitor is much older but I see some great prices over at slickdeals.net One particular deal on a 34" ultra-wide starts at $269 for a Samsung brand 3440x1440 monitor if you have a costco membership:
https://slickdeals.net/newsearch.php?src=SearchBarV2&q=34"&searcharea=deals&searchin=first
The sick irony is that I already have the money to buy one, yet there aren't any left to buy; I'm hoping there will be replenished stock come January unless the sites are hijacked by scalper bots again that is!
(Non-scalped FE version!)
The FE version is the one I was trying to get from day one as well. Starting with Nvidia and Best Buy but those damn bots / scalpers! Often those websites would crash at the very minute they were available to purchase. And if you did manage to add one to cart you could never check out without the website crashing. So frustrating!
Another option is the 20GB version 3080 Ti that is rumored for early 2021. I think I might have gone this route knowing that getting a second one later on would be a more reasonable upgrade path.
RTX 3080 Ti (20GB) and RTX 3060 (12 GB) CONFIRMED BY ASUS:
https://wccftech.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-20-gb-geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb-rog-strix-custom-graphics-cards-leak/
I'd go ahead and get one now... if you can find one, of course. Can always plug it into a new system later.
If you've already decided to get one anyways, may as well realize the power savings as soon as you can.
My main rig has two Titan Xps, and my render box has two 1080 Tis. It looks like one 3090 provides as much rendering power as the 4 cards!!! My older cards, at about 250 watts use at peak is 1000 watts plus. Sure the 3090 can draw 350 watts plus, but that's about the same rendering power. If you don't have as much rendering power, the render iterations per watt will be much higher. In other words, sure every minute you're drawing more power, but you'll be rendering so much faster you'll use less power overall.
The reference from one of the performance threads:
VERY cool information!
...after Nvidia's "big disappointment" with the 970Ti and 980Ti, both of which were heavily rumoured would have double the VRAM (8 GB), not holding my breath. Also the 3090 is compatible with NVLink while none of the other 3xxx cards are.
Yeah, I'm not very keen on that as NVidia is clogging up their own lineup with cards they can not even keep in stock; the *3060 with 12 Gb with lower performance than a 3080 is crazy as it will even cut into the sales of the 3060 ti and possibly the 3070 and 3080!
But all of these cards releasing won't really matter as most of the people buying these cards will be scalper bots anyways; as I only see the bot invasion increasing as there are scores of scalper groups and businesses that are frequently cropping up... so unless online outlets aggressively impose purchase limits and anti-bot measures, this new lineup won't even make it to the actual customers.
*"It is rumored that the card will feature a massive 12 GB memory buffer which is larger than that of the RTX 3060 Ti, RTX 3070, and even the RTX 3080. This is not confirmed yet..."
....bad enough we had to endure the cryptomining rubbish a few years ago which jacked up prices for the higher VRAM Pascal cards out of reach. Now it's these scalper bots. Bloody parasites, that is what they are, preying on legitimate buyers to make a dishonest profit.
So how does one have more than one graphics card. I think my PC only has one slot for that type of card. Is it a custom rig with a special motherboard? And what the heck are scalper bots? And why would they buy something if not to resell it...... since the comment says they won't end up in legitmate customers hands?
Some OEM computers do have a second slot, you'll have to check for yourself. They'll be more gamer or workstation oriented. Or you can build, it's actually pretty easy now.
Bots are getting used by everyone - end-users, scalpers, and cryptominers. Probably impossible to tell how much of who's buying them - but agree, scalpers suck. Read that scalpers made almost $30 million on Ebay!
I don't know why they say rumoured. ASUS put the service entries for those cards on their site although they are going to be release 1st quarter 2021. As far as cutting sales; how is that when normal customers that pay MSRP can't even get one to get in their shopping carts? They will likely with end up with unsold stock someday in the future but it's not going to because they made too many models. They will up production of the best sellers and cut productions of the slow sellers. If they wind up with no unsold inventory when the next generation comes out they know they have messed up. The expensive part of the product development lifecycle is already behind them for this generation of cards.
All these models added with more RAM show is that nVidia realizes the non-gamer segment of the market needs more RAM and is growing faster than they anticipated; and that they confirmed that, like it or not, AMD did release new cards starting at 16GB RAM.
I'm seeing your video right now, as far I saw is very informative, if you want a suggestion for screen capture I use this software:
https://icecreamapps.com/Screen-Recorder/
the reason is not bottleneck Daz3D, saves audio alone too and easy to use, I use it on my videos and no problems. I love how you moved far left on the screen like a Twitch scene for a video inserted on the center and right spacing, probably in the future I will show my real face too and your setup gave me that idea too.