1 RTX 3090 water cooled Hybrid vs 3 GPU's combined in Daz3D

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,252

    ....hmmm 12 GB RTX 3060.  Same VRAM, as my Titan X with more Cores as well as the addition of Tensor & RTX cores at likely what will be a bit less than half the original retail price of the Titan-X (thinking around 459$) when it was introduced.  The only advantages to buying the 3070, 3070Ti, and 3080 would be more CUDA, Tensor, and RTX cores aong with slightly better compute rates.

  • junkjunk Posts: 1,367

    Zilvergrafix said:

    I'm seeing your video right now, as far I saw is very informative, if you want a suggestion for screen capture I use this software:

    https://icecreamapps.com/Screen-Recorder/

     the reason is not bottleneck Daz3D, saves audio alone too and easy to use, I use it on my videos and no problems. I love how you moved far left on the screen like a Twitch scene for a video inserted on the center and right spacing, probably in the future I will show my real face too and your setup gave me that idea too.

    Hey thank you for the tip Zilvergrafix!  I ended up using the built in Geforce Experience screen recorder for the second half of the video.  I was quite pleased with how it did.  I had no idea icecreamapps existed so I'm quite excited to look into it more too.

    Also yeah, you should get past the barrier of showing your face in a recording but I've also seen many great videos where that never takes place.  Whatever happens just get it out there for the world to see.  There's something liberating about getting over the fear and just doing it.  I also appreciate you saying kind things like you have.  Thank you very much!

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    edited December 2020

    kyoto kid said:

    junk said:

    Another option is the 20GB version 3080 Ti that is rumored for early 2021.  I think I might have gone this route knowing that getting a second one later on would be a more reasonable upgrade path.

    RTX 3080 Ti (20GB) and RTX 3060 (12 GB) CONFIRMED BY ASUS:
    https://wccftech.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-20-gb-geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb-rog-strix-custom-graphics-cards-leak/

    ...after Nvidia's "big disappointment" with the 970Ti and 980Ti, both of which were heavily rumoured would have double the VRAM (8 GB), not holding my breath. Also the 3090 is compatible with NVLink while none of the other 3xxx cards are. 

    What big disappointment? The 970ti was never needed. Simple as that, it had no reason to exist. Those cards were designed only if they were needed. AMD was in a nose dive at this point in time. Conumers completely ignored what AMD offered, so Nvidia didn't need to launch those cards. I would bet you money that Nvidia absolutely had plans for a 970ti, these leakers are often pretty correct. But plans change. That does not mean the leaks were wrong. These things are always fluid. Nvidia pretty much always has something situated to combat whatever course AMD takes. But only if AMD has something to compete and consumers are into it.

    The difference today is that consumers are NOT ignoring AMD anymore. AMD has climbed back from near death. Plus AMD has brought real challengers to the table that are not only fast GPUs, but offer 16GB of VRAM. AMD is pushing that very hard in their marketing. They will also be offering 12GB GPUs in the mid range, and that, well, that makes Ampere just look silly. This has fired up huge debates amung gamers as to whether or not such VRAM is needed now or soon. 

    So Nvidia has to do something. They cannot get just allow AMD to control the conversation. The only way to shut up some people up is by offering more VRAM. Besides that, we have 3rd party AIBs basically confirming these new cards exist.

    It will be very funny if Nvidia releases a 3060 with 12GB, when their "Flagship" 3080 only has 10. That will be basically admitting they goofed up big time. I do question this one, simply because of how silly this would make their lineup look. I mean...I would be kind of embarrassed to release a 3060 with that much VRAM. If it was me, I wouldn't. I would cap it at 10. I would then release higher capacity 3070 and 3080's. Of course, if it was me, I would have done that from the start. Every rumor about AMD was pointing to 16GB for their cards. Nvidia should have seen this a mile away. They could have avoided this argument completely. I really do not get what Nvidia is thinking right now. Some of their moves have been very tone deaf lately. They are pretty much leaving a huge wide open door for AMD. But AMD hasn't exactly scored, they kind of tripped over themselves and fell flat on their face. Its like the basketball player going for a wide open dunk but he manages to brick it, and fall down on his butt in process. Does anybody want to win right now??? Even so, people are still looking at AMD more than they have in a long time.

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  • junkjunk Posts: 1,367
    edited December 2020

    outrider42 said:

    kyoto kid said:

    junk said:

    Another option is the 20GB version 3080 Ti that is rumored for early 2021.  I think I might have gone this route knowing that getting a second one later on would be a more reasonable upgrade path.

    RTX 3080 Ti (20GB) and RTX 3060 (12 GB) CONFIRMED BY ASUS:
    https://wccftech.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-20-gb-geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb-rog-strix-custom-graphics-cards-leak/

    ...after Nvidia's "big disappointment" with the 970Ti and 980Ti, both of which were heavily rumoured would have double the VRAM (8 GB), not holding my breath. Also the 3090 is compatible with NVLink while none of the other 3xxx cards are. 

    What big disappointment? The 970ti was never needed. Simple as that, it had no reason to exist. Those cards were designed only if they were needed. AMD was in a nose dive at this point in time. Conumers completely ignored what AMD offered, so Nvidia didn't need to launch those cards. I would bet you money that Nvidia absolutely had plans for a 970ti, these leakers are often pretty correct. But plans change. That does not mean the leaks were wrong. These things are always fluid. Nvidia pretty much always has something situated to combat whatever course AMD takes. But only if AMD has something to compete and consumers are into it.

    The difference today is that consumers are NOT ignoring AMD anymore. AMD has climbed back from near death. Plus AMD has brought real challengers to the table that are not only fast GPUs, but offer 16GB of VRAM. AMD is pushing that very hard in their marketing. They will also be offering 12GB GPUs in the mid range, and that, well, that makes Ampere just look silly. This has fired up huge debates amung gamers as to whether or not such VRAM is needed now or soon. 

    So Nvidia has to do something. They cannot get just allow AMD to control the conversation. The only way to shut up some people up is by offering more VRAM. Besides that, we have 3rd party AIBs basically confirming these new cards exist.

    It will be very funny if Nvidia releases a 3060 with 12GB, when their "Flagship" 3080 only has 10. That will be basically admitting they goofed up big time. I do question this one, simply because of how silly this would make their lineup look. I mean...I would be kind of embarrassed to release a 3060 with that much VRAM. If it was me, I wouldn't. I would cap it at 10. I would then release higher capacity 3070 and 3080's. Of course, if it was me, I would have done that from the start. Every rumor about AMD was pointing to 16GB for their cards. Nvidia should have seen this a mile away. They could have avoided this argument completely. I really do not get what Nvidia is thinking right now. Some of their moves have been very tone deaf lately. They are pretty much leaving a huge wide open door for AMD. But AMD hasn't exactly scored, they kind of tripped over themselves and fell flat on their face. Its like the basketball player going for a wide open dunk but he manages to brick it, and fall down on his butt in process. Does anybody want to win right now??? Even so, people are still looking at AMD more than they have in a long time.

    I totally agree with you and I LOVE how AMD has been firing on all cylinders.  Love love love it.  I personally thought their GPU's were dead a year ago since it seemed NVIDIA was 100 miles ahead of them in ray tracing.  Their CPU's are have been really swaying the desktop/web server markets and I have been a fan since the Ryzen 1700x. 

    I'm glad that Daz Studio offers AMD options like Octane renderer.  I was also so happy to see the 16GB AMD offerrings, thinking it was the perfect memory size and price value.  I believe if AMD could get their own rendering engine baked into Daz Studio and be ready for the next wave of their ray tracing hardware offerrings in 2021 it could go a long way.  Just that Daz Studio is a small fry in comparison to Blender and other 3D offerrings that already take advantage of their hardware.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,252
    edited December 2020

    outrider42 said:

    What big disappointment? The 970ti was never needed. Simple as that, it had no reason to exist. Those cards were designed only if they were needed. AMD was in a nose dive at this point in time. Conumers completely ignored what AMD offered, so Nvidia didn't need to launch those cards. I would bet you money that Nvidia absolutely had plans for a 970ti, these leakers are often pretty correct. But plans change. That does not mean the leaks were wrong. These things are always fluid. Nvidia pretty much always has something situated to combat whatever course AMD takes. But only if AMD has something to compete and consumers are into it.

    The difference today is that consumers are NOT ignoring AMD anymore. AMD has climbed back from near death. Plus AMD has brought real challengers to the table that are not only fast GPUs, but offer 16GB of VRAM. AMD is pushing that very hard in their marketing. They will also be offering 12GB GPUs in the mid range, and that, well, that makes Ampere just look silly. This has fired up huge debates amung gamers as to whether or not such VRAM is needed now or soon. 

    So Nvidia has to do something. They cannot get just allow AMD to control the conversation. The only way to shut up some people up is by offering more VRAM. Besides that, we have 3rd party AIBs basically confirming these new cards exist.

    It will be very funny if Nvidia releases a 3060 with 12GB, when their "Flagship" 3080 only has 10. That will be basically admitting they goofed up big time. I do question this one, simply because of how silly this would make their lineup look. I mean...I would be kind of embarrassed to release a 3060 with that much VRAM. If it was me, I wouldn't. I would cap it at 10. I would then release higher capacity 3070 and 3080's. Of course, if it was me, I would have done that from the start. Every rumor about AMD was pointing to 16GB for their cards. Nvidia should have seen this a mile away. They could have avoided this argument completely. I really do not get what Nvidia is thinking right now. Some of their moves have been very tone deaf lately. They are pretty much leaving a huge wide open door for AMD. But AMD hasn't exactly scored, they kind of tripped over themselves and fell flat on their face. Its like the basketball player going for a wide open dunk but he manages to brick it, and fall down on his butt in process. Does anybody want to win right now??? Even so, people are still looking at AMD more than they have in a long time.

    ...given all the hype on the tech sites that was circulating around back then pretty much up to the release, it seemed like 8 GB would be a "sure thing".  I was preparing to purchase a 980 Ti until the actual release as 6 GB was pretty much borderline for rendering of large or involved scenes in Iray and mys system only had a 4 core first generation i7 to fall back on.  This left the overly expensive Quadro M5000 as the only Nvida card with 8 GB.  Meanwhile, AMD did have a card with 8 GB on the market (390 and 390X Grenada) that was released the same time as the 980ti (June 2015) but of course was useless for Iray and at the time, Octane as well.

    This is why when I read or hear any talk about forthcoming big VRAM cards these days I take it with a fairly large lump of salt (and my BP doesn't need that)

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