Need help identifying (similar) assets for these 2 ladies in Daz 3D!

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I recently got into Daz 3D, and I have been having a ton of fun creating different models/poses!
These two models are from a visual novel that utilizes Daz 3D for all of their characters.
I'm not sure what the character model / hair asset is called for the attached two models. All I know is that they are "Genesis 3 Females".
If anyone can help me with this or find similar assets with this look, I would be so grateful! Thanks in advance!


rachel.jpg
897 x 1074 - 112K


karen.jpg
759 x 1074 - 126K
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The outfit in the second picture: https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-city-seduction-outfit-for-genesis-8-females
The hair is not this one (hairline is further up scalp) but it is a very close substitute. And is currently on sale. Product is for G2F & G3F.
Edit I bought it June 18 2017 and my screenshot has more promo images but otherwise the contents should be the same.
The hair in the first might be this one: https://www.daz3d.com/claudia-hair-for-genesis-3-and-8-females
But your suggestion is more cost effective. :)
The second hair might be this one: https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/sleek-ponytail-hair-for-genesis-3-and-8-females/126384/
Oh wow, you are right-on! Both this and the hair for both character models.
That is perfect, because I just managed to find the model for the second female too after testing multiple different models. Turns out it was a G8F, not a G3F.
Seems like the character model for the first one is the hardest to find at the moment.
I'm looking through the 12495+ results in the Daz3D Catalog, but I'm still coming up with nothing close to it.
Keep in mind with characters, many don't use just what they purchase. most have the base morphs installed and when they load any character, there are 1000s of little changes a user can make with the base morphs to make any premade character look different and unique. So when someone asks about a character, the only one that would truly know is the artist that created that specific look. You could look thru every character in every 3D store and still not see what is in that image.
Ah, that explains why. Thank you for the explaination!
I wasn't aware the downloaded/premade morphs could be edited to that extent. That sounds like a lot of fun to experiment with. I appreciate the helpful responses!