Perouges Medieval Village - What Period?

zombiewhacker

Faveral's Perouges Medieval Village is on sale today.

https://www.daz3d.com/perouges-medieval-village

To those of you versed in medieval history, a question -- what specific period within the era would this set be best suited? Norman conquests, knights in plated armor on Crusade, pre-Renaissance? Or put another way, what assets might need to be hidden for certain renders in order to keep the environment looking accurate?

Sevrin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pérouges

So, if the castle is first mentioned in the 12th century, the outbuildings would likely have been constructed around that time.  Keep in mind that these buildings stood in the 13th, 14th and 15th centuries and stand to this day.  People have been making IG selfies for in front of these buildings for over eight centuries.  Pretty much anything after the dark ages should be fine.

Keep in mind that really old buildings are not weird to Europeans.  They're just what they see every day.

Ascania

As @Sevrin already mentioned, the longer usable lifetime of the building makes them suitable for nigh on whatever period medieval-to-modern you want. You just have to surround them with suitable filler.

 

But two hints now: https://gcdn.daz3d.com/p/33647/i/perougespromo7-daz3d.jpg ;

Look at the hinges of the door to the left. They are rather simple and undadorned, and more to the point, small, manufactured from rolled steel it seems. That indicates a rather recent installation of that particular door.

And the second hint: https://gcdn.daz3d.com/p/33647/i/perougespromo10-daz3d.jpg

This time notice the handrails on the steps in the centre of the picture. They are again a very simple affair, manufactured from tubular iron or steel. Their existence in this place is again a modern influence and might require removal for medieval authenticity.

The Alchemist

This is actually a quite late design. The earliest extant buildings in Pérouges today date from the 13th century. The glass windows in particular are circa 1400's at earliest (post-Crusades, late Middle Ages). While monasteries had fixed stained glass as early as the 8th century, Medieval castles and manors generally had very small window opening with only wooden shutters, and did not begin using glass until the 13th-14th centuries, and only then for the very wealthiest of nobles who could afford the luxury. Most glass seen in "medieval" structures today was added during the later Renaissance period. Moreover, most upper-class medieval-era windows are arched (though not strictly), with square windows used primarily in poorer peasant quarters and later early modern structures. Lastly, the curved red tile roofing restricts the historical placement to southerly regions (south-central Europe and Mediterranean), so no Vikings or northern Europeans. 

maikdecker

Sevrin said:

Keep in mind that really old buildings are not weird to Europeans.  They're just what they see every day.

 When I did my training as a cook I worked in a restaurant that was in a house build in the 13th century. It has been used as a restaurant (tavern whatever) since the 16th century...

So yes, europeans are kinda used to have to get along with old buildings...

(in my example the stairs leading into the cellar, where the cooling rooms were placed had only 5'5" (~1.65m) height/head space which made it hard for me - 6'2" / 1.88 m - to go down it...)

richardandtracy

Shaped cobbles on the streets are generally 1800's or later, when places were wealthy enough to afford the cost of shaped stone setts. Prior to then it was more common to have either dirt roads or round river stones hammered on edge into the ground. My parents house had some hammered river stone flooring in the under stairs cupboard and west barn. The house dated to around 1590-1600, flagstones replaced the majority of interior cobbles in about 1850. Also it was as far 'out in the sticks' that it probably saw these modern conveniences about the same time as rural France - the effect of industrialization took quite some time to filter out to rural areas. They only got mains water in the 1970's and abandoned it in the 1990's.

The windows and size of glazing panels suggest post 1750 to me. Prior to that window glass was made by blowing what were in effect big bottles, cutting one edge and flattening. Then someone discovered that glass could be rolled. Initially in pieces up to 8x10 inches, but as the process developed the size increased and thickness reduced. My last house (1898) still had some rolled original panes, 36" x 24" x 1/16" (900 x 600 x 1.6mm) . 

Television ariels are missing, and power cables/phone, so I think the period is actually late 1800's, early 1900's, but would be fairly authentic for any period as early as 1800. With a bit of work and re-texturing I'm sure you could authentically reproduce almost any period back to 1400.

Regards

Richard.

nicstt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downham,_Lancashire

I spent some time there as a kid; there were no road markings, overhead cables and other modern identifiable markings; still the same now I think.

So, set your scene properly and you can have what you like.

nicstt

I've been looking at the product, and it looks very nice, but the consideration when using it in renders, would be to match the time-period to the vilage: ergo the medieval period.

I wouldn't.

The wear and tear (and changes) indicates some years (likely 100s) after being built, and the cobbles suggest a sympathetic* upgrade as do the walls surrounding the village.

*An upgrade that tries to be in keeping with the original, without necessarily being of the same period.

Martial

Ii have bough this excellent product from Faveral.I remember when i visit Pérouge in 2014 ,It was a trip to the past time

nonesuch00

You should research that area of France for the time period you want buildings for if you want an accurate accessment because like Notre Dame was updated through the centuries maybe that building was too. 

Mark_e593e0a5

The average "old world" gal/guy is accustomed to old buildings. When I did a sightseeing tour with an US collegue in my hometown (Munich) she was supprised that the foundation of our cathedral was layed in 1468. One of the most imptressive medival buildings I have ever seen in real life was Castel del Monte near the city of Bari, Italy. And France has so many marvelous cities that still have a medival core, I would not know where to start.... 

As with medival architecture in general, what you see today, and what is basically the source of most of the models available, is not the real thing. It has aged, has been modified as time has gone by. If you want to have an ACCURATE medival town, you may need to modify anything you get here on DAZ. If you are fine with "medival-ish", then I think that Perouges is the way to go.

zombiewhacker

Purchased! Thanks for your input.