How to make an exact G8F A-Pose for G2F?
bigD3d
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Hello all,
this is a bit of a follow up to my last post here on trying to get G8F clothes fit backwards to G2F, which was solved the weird stretching issues by making a G8F Clone to use in autofit.
thanks again for the posts there.
However, now i'm back to my original intent, which was to fit to G2F with my own custom head and body morphs applied.
Quick list of my workflow:
1) Open the clothes in the scene before autofit and drag them to be child-nodes of the figure
2) GoZ the figure into ZBrush and make the alterations on each clothing peice
3) Autofit the clothes in Daz so they get the custom head/body morphs applied
4) GoZ the altered clothes back to Daz renaming them the same as my custom head/body morphs
When I sat down to do this after the autofit clone fix, it dawned on me the clothes in step 1 are still in the G8F A-Pose and G2F is still in T-pose - which makes more work in ZBrush moving and altering and possible issues lining up the clothes right.
If I had G2F already posed in the G8F A-Pose I think this would simplify it so for step 2 there is minimal changes moving and rotating. Is there a simple way to make a G2F A-Pose that exactly matches the G8F A-Pose? Or a known set of bend angles per body part (i.e. bend arms 45 degrees, rotate 5 degrees, etc)?
thanks in advance for any help.
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I'm not expert, however I would simply load both G8 and G2, which would take up the same space and just move the parts of G2 to match G8, then save the pose for furture use.
IIRC you bend the left shoulder to -45.61, the right shoulder to 45.61, move the left thigh side-side to 6, and right thigh side-side to -6. (Edited to correct positive and negative siding.)
Plus or minus a couple tenths of a degree or so on the shoulders, depending on how close you want it, I've seen people use slightly different things. You can also load G2F in directly on top of G8F and move her arms until they match and then save the pose for later, like Faeryl suggested. But the angle should be somewhere in the 45 ballpark. I use 45.61 because another user recommended it and it matches up better than exactly 45.
Thanks Faeryl Womyn, I have done that but don't know how close to 'correct' it is. Given the issue I had that required making the G8F Clone I was hoping there was an 'exact' way/method to do it so the bends and angles on the bones were all correct.
Look up a couple comments, the angles for the thighs and shoulders are there. I did get the positive/negative values reversed, the ones I originally posted were backwards (I have saved poses so I pretty much never do it manually anymore and forget which side goes which way, what I had was for going from A-pose to T-pose). I've edited them so that they should be oriented correctly now.
G2F and G8F have their lower arms and hands/fingers in different positions, which is kind of a pain and frankly I haven't been able to match them exactly. Getting those to line up requires turning off limits on G2F's forearms so that you can use the side-side dial, and I'm not sure what that will do to any fitting, posing, bones, etc. when all is said and done. But I can give you the numbers I have for a pretty close match (I moved the thumb but not the individual fingers, joints, etc.) if you want to give it a try anyway.
(Added the image attachments back. With underwear now because I'm not sure whether they just didn't make it, or whether we're not allowed to post undetailed, smooth-shaded stuff anymore without the non-existant naughties covered.)
If you have the numbers that would be great. I'm still thinking there should be some kind of tool/process that would do this for us - like a reverse morph, fit to, clone, transfer utility kind of thing... but in the meantime, manually setting the values to get as close as possible will do :)
thanks
There is a solid free pose converter on sharecg. It will do G8 to G2. All you need is the default pose A saved as a preset and this can be converted, all with all your other G8 poses, very quickly (like thousands of poses in a minute). You can choose to just convert a few if wish. Give it a try.
https://www.sharecg.com/v/89846/view/8/Script/Daz3d-Pose-Converter-Standalone
Awesome, thanks for pointing this out, I will definately give it a try.
Sorry for the delay, I had to replace my WiFi setup yesterday afternoon and then I had to get someone to come and set traps for the squirrels trying to eat their way through my ceiling (nature WHY), so I'm just getting caught up on things.
To get things lined up the way they are in the attachments (apart from a couple tweaks since G2F is slightly shorter and I overcorrected), I used the following for G2F:
Obviously you can tweak them more if you want, adjust the individual fingers, increase G2F's height, etc. I just haven't found any automatic way, including conversion of zero poses, to get the lower arms to match up. The pose converter that outrider42 mentioned is awesome but doesn't work here, at least for me. When I try, it'll move the upper arms downward and the legs outward, but it doesn't do anything to put the lower arms and hands into the same alignment.
They're way more experienced than I am, though, and it's entirely possible that my failure is a case of user error. It usually is, haha.