New EULA?
Charlie Judge
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Has there been recent changes to the EULA? I haven't seen any posts about it, but I am being asked to agree to the EULA before I can access my downloads and just wondering why?
Is anybody else experiencing this?
Charlie
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I'm seeing it too. Not sure what's changed.
And it keeps telling my I have to log in to sign it, but I am signed in
-- never mind, it finally let me accept it.
Well I didn't wonder why, I read it. Appears to be written in English, ty Daz3d. :-)
I gave it a quick run-through and the big change seemed to be a slight relaxation on usage restrictions for 3D printing of products, as well as breaking out separate sets of conditions for those who've bought the extended rights options.
Apparently someone accidentally resaved the HTML, so it has a newer time-stamp. Nothing has changed.
? well as I recall the last one could have folk meeting in Alabama or wherever it was the other legal company was home based [not that Daz said so, but that's what the other company said on their website] ... and this one clearly states only the one location for arbitration.
I actually met a man who was refused entry into the States because he wanted to visit Utah. So ? exactly how enforceable that condition would be, but I'm not testing it lol ... everybody play nice. And no for the bit about 3D printing, that still requires a license [? the existence of which atm]. But it does look to be better written for the content creation part IMHO.
I just scared to the death, why I need to re-approve EULA. What I did wrong !?
But it clear everyone have to re-approve EULA. Thanks to the forum.
Could youe briefly explain it. About what have changed. Thanks.
English is not my primary language.
Greetings,
One thing I read which I interpreted differently than the previous version is that if you want to sell a 3D object (3D printed object) to someone, that person needs to own/purchase a license to the original source material. So if you wanted me to make you a statue of Boris in a dramatic pose, I would have to get you to purchase Boris for yourself first (so you are an owner of the 3D rights-grant) and then I could print and sell you the statue.
That's just my interpretation, though, and IANAL.
-- Morgan
The 3D printing etc. stuff looks the same as before to me. I don't see anything indicating that the recipient needs a content license.
From what I can tell there are no functional changes. Some of the wording has been changed and/or expanded upon for clarity sake. There may be some additions made for DAZ's legal protection but they don't fundamentally change the end users' rights.
As Mike posted above, there shouldn't be any changes - this is just the result of the file date changing by accident.
Personally, from a business standpoint, I don't think it's a bad idea to have to "accept" it at least once a year.
I read the elua that I keep getting.,
one thing i noticed was this cause
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"" 2) upon receipt of a written request from DAZ, User will immediately cease any and all distribution of the derived or additional three-dimensional works User has created from the Content, if DAZ has determined, in its sole discretion, that (i) such additional or derived work is substantially similar to or is a clone of existing Content; or (ii) such additional or derived work fails to require or encourage the use of Content available through the online DAZ store as described above.
The creation of three-dimensional physical images (3D-print, molded copy, CNC-routed copy, and the like) of Content or any three-dimensional art derived from the Content is permitted only by User’s purchase from DAZ, via the User’s online DAZ store account, of permission to deliver User’s derived works (art), including necessary Content, to an entity that creates three-dimensional images in a physical medium. User may then deliver User’s art in file format to that third party to have three-dimensional physical images printed or created, up to the limitations set forth in the online DAZ Store as delineated on the purchase page associated with the permission purchased. These limitations govern (i) personal and/or commercial use of the three-dimensional physical or printed images; and (ii) the quantity of three dimensional physical or printed images allowed. ""
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what I would like clarified as in can we use daz content in our 3d printers or not? from what I read and is my belief with tthe new elua statement that I can print out 3d art with the daz content as long as i don't give the 3d model I used to someone else?
with the old ELUA I always believe we could use the Daz content to create 3d printed .Obj as long as we didn't included or offer to give or a copy of the model away as part of the 3d printed content.
I ask be cause i have been 3d printed fairy & other models using alabaster for 3d printing for about 2 months not aware if there are restrictions on 3d printed use with daz content.. My 3d printer and the materials was not cheap and ive been able to make some great figurines with my 3M digital 3D printer. I was planning on giving them away as gifts this year for Christmas.
None of this really never even occurred to me before. So am I allowed to keep, using my daz content with my 3d printer?
Thanks for the reply chohole
Okay so I got this right? I need to open a support sales ticket to 3d print Daz content? why? do I have to purchase another licenses for use of content for 3d printing ?? really then why not have to have licenses for 2d printing as well?
Now you see why this is confusing because it says clearly it is permitted to use daz content in 3d printing as long as i am the purchaser of the content and i am using it for my own use. & and the restrictions are with the use of daz content if the content is going to a third party for the 3d printing. that was my understanding of the ELUA. which is crazy because my 3d printer uses STL (STereoLithography) file format and you can't extract Daz or poser mesh from it once it has been saved as STL
But seeming i have my own 3d printer there is no third party involved thus I guess this is why i am confused about be able to use daz content in my 3d printer..
May I ask. why there is not a clear concise yes or no to 3d printing in the EULA like renderosity has? which we can use the rendo content as long as the model content used to create the 3d physical art is not used, sold or passed to third parties as a 3d printer base model file format ..
I guess the next thing daz is going to want us to purchase special licenses for 3d printing models STL. like the gaming licenses..
My question to daz how do you know if I use your content for 3d printing if don't tell you? better yet why bother purchase content we can't use in anything other than making pictures then you are obligated to purchase very expensive licenses. if you want to print them out..
its really confusing because daz does not have restrictions on using content rendered 2d art of the daz content in use on commercial web site, 3d animations & flash media animation or printed books and other printed media i have used daz content for?.. if there is no restrictions for printed 2d media then way is there restrictions for 3d printed media?\
my reckoning by all this is Daz is going to have to just guess if if i am using their content for 3d printing or not and let them figure it out and prove if my 3d printed figures are daz content model or not & what they are going to do to restrict the use of content for 3d printing. . because 3d printers are becoming very common tool for graphic artist. like myself.
In other words Daz! there needs to be more clarification on printed media whether it be 2d or 3d printing. because as a artist that uses daz content in all types of printed media like art in printed Books, web site art that has stories that can be downloaded and printed &, commissioned 3d adult film animations, and 2d flash animation games which are now all allowed by the Daz ELUA
In either case to me printing is printing, either 2d or 3d. see my point,.
I'll be up front chohole I know its not your fault about the wording in the ELUA
But i will not be purchasing any special licenses for 3d printing or be seeking written permission slips , when its not required for 2d printing. the 3d printer cost me enough. and to me printing is printing. just different forms of materials are used.
Just saying
these are some of my best 3d printed fairies I after i have painted them. I been doing 3d printing for a couple of months its fun to watch.print out.
the Bell is Ken Gillians Humming bird on a DM;s Gothic Bell with Lisa's botanical s flowers, I have not painted it yet its just in the raw gray alabaster color
the fairies are 3- 6 inch and 1 - 2 inch I painted tham all at the same time thats why they are pretty much the same color..lol
and the frogs & mushrooms are from Sharecg & Rpublishing
they are painted with ceramic porcelain paint and brush same as you would use for regular ceramics ..
I used a air brush gun for the dresses which i had to redue because air brushing is not one of my stronger talents..lol anyways
the 6 inch fairies took 16 hours each to 3d print using the fine print spray head and a lot of detail. so it takes a while
The bell took 3 hours to print out using the bigger more coarse print head which didn't not require as much detail. I'll paint it tomorrow .
I wanted to show what can be done with a $900 3d printer and about $40 worth raw material, and some ceramic paint...lol
this is why i like to use daz and poser 3d content so i can actually handle my art i created. it brings it to life so to speak.
My husband just like the 3d printer so he can print out RC model airplane part, and stuff for his hobby/..there is a million uses. for 3d printers.
i can see us getting another 3d printer as our demand to create things with them grows and the prices come down ... :)
Oh my. Oh MY oh my oh my! You print in color too!
I am not a lawyer, but, a caveat here: a EULA's efforts is often already dulled by existing consumers rights. Fair Use and a gazillion other things.
Like you, I think a tad of common sense has to prevail. IF a PA allows both commercial and non-commercial RENDERS of 3D content, then IMHO, it doesn't matter if that rendering is 2D or 3D. We have to respect the VENDOR wishes, and if that says private rendering is fine, but commercial use rendering is not, then no render of the product can be sold.
Please, keep using the airbrush, practice makes perfect is the addage and truth too. Just like using soft graphite, sculpting in clay or crayolas on the wall. Remember the question, "How do you get to Carnegie Hall?" The answer is Practice Practice Practice! Your efforts are very nice, worthy ones already. Don't give up! :o)
Thanks for the comment and suggestion.
Unfortunately my 3d printer does not print in color the color printing heads cost almost as much as the printer does..lol
that is how they get you. first yo buy the printer , then you got to buy all the little things to go with it if you want to be able to make anything with it.. sounds kind of like daz don't it..lol j/k, Alabaster is the cheapest & easiest materials to use , my husband uses some kind of expensive carbon material for what he use it for.
I don't have a beef with the ELUA other than they need to make it clear to the point with no confusion.
to what we can and can not do.
I am not a lawyer or a mind reader. I read what it says & it says that 3d printing is permitted with restriction to third parties.. okay what are the restriction and how much do they cost that is always the bottom line,. $$$$
We don't have to pay a licensing fee to use daz content on printed books , or poster or web site art work. or even use it to make paper dolls so why al the gravity on 3d printing.
I can understand protecting intellectual property rights and ownership of the created Daz content in use. I make content myself all the time. But how we use that content after we paid good money to use it for our projects should not matter how we use it , unless the purchased Daz content is being redistributed where other are able to gain access to the content it self. that is a no no!
a 3d printed model or figure is not the same the 3d content being distributed for reuse., its not redistributed so other can use it in other 3d programs which is really what they are trying to protect aren't they.?
3d printing is just that printing out a object in 3d instead of on paper in 2d
3D printing requires a special file format to be able to get the printer to print out the content. which would be useless to anyone else unless they also use STL files.
We can use daz content in printed books or printed posters and other hard copy printed media. I have used Daz content in 3d animations and 2d flash interactive kids games which are all permitted by the ELUA. . so why should we not be able to print out content whether its 2d or 3d just because you printed out the content in 3d doesn't means others have access to the daz content that created it.
it just means you are holding the daz 3d content model in your hand instead of looking at it on paper that is all.
see the confusion.
You can always submit a support tick and find out exactly what you can do.
You would think they would make this very clear in the ELUA wouldn't you?
Ticket submitted
<--waits to hear status of Daz tells Ivy :)... WOW.. gorgeous statues by the way... It never ceases to amaze me what people do with Daz content. I'm a crafter at heart and am now thinking of all the wonderful things I could make if I had a 3d printer.. lol.</p>
I have to admit that I am totally confused whenever a company wants me to agree to a ELUA... I mean.. I BOUGHT it.. and paid good money for the content... In the past 2 years I've spent over 5,000 dollars on content at DAZ. Now I have to agree to a ELUA before I can even download it to my computer??? That seems fishy to me. If I paid for it.. I should be able to download it. No warning either... Just ACCEPT or I don't get the item I paid for. Very fishy.
I want to make money with my DAZ to help offset that 5,000 dollars I've spent. I understand I am not allowed to give or sell the files/content in another package.. A no brainer... But I thought I was allowed to make art with my renders... for.. let's say Book Covers... Posters... things like over at Zazzle.. aprons.. covers... pillows.. coffee mugs.. etc. I'm hoping it's ok.. or else WHY bother working with 3D???
You can make 2D art all you like and do whatever you like with it.
In the old days of installers, you had to agree to the EULA every time you ran every installer. Now you have to agree once before downloading. What you paid for is a license to use the content in accordance with the EULA -- just like when there were installers, you didn't sign a EULA before purchasing, but you had to agree to the EULA before you could use it.
You would think they would make this very clear in the ELUA wouldn't you?
Well, I found it to be fairly clear, but slightly incomplete. The section of the EULA that covers 3D printing makes the assumption that you are shipping the scene off to a third-party to do the 3D print - and since that includes the DAZ and PA geometries, permission (and possibly a license fee) is required. Since you are not sending files off-site, it looks like you're covered by the 2D section, because you've effectively got a printed rendered image and getting the effective geometry of the figure(s) back into an application like Studio from a 3D image is not very likely.
3D printing is coming down in price faster than a lot of us imagined. :-)
And if you keep posting those photos, I'm going to have to start saving my pennies for a 3D printer - those look fantastic!
I've been thinking about getting into 3D printing for a while. I would love to hear an official response on this. I can't understand the EULA in regards to 3D printing at all. I just want to know if I can print figures or objects I create from DAZ content in my own home and then sell them or not? I don't see why there would be an issue if the digital assets were not distributed.
Nice work Ivy! Did about $40 for supplies cover all the figures shown? Is it a lot of work to prepare the models? Thanks for any info.
I think those images would be enough to convince a lot of people. Those are just the sort of thing my grandma collects, and being able to print unique statuettes for her would be a lovely gift.
Ivy, they really are stunning. And for what it's worth, the fairy in front (the one next to the frog) looks like my sister. :)
As a general principle, surely the EULA that was current when you "purchased" the product should apply as long as you are using it?
Otherwise it would quite possible to suddenly find that you have paid for something which you can no longer use for the purpose for which you bought it, because the EULA has been changed. Once you purchase a product and accept the EULA, you shouldn't then be forced to accept an "updated/changed" EULA every year!
As a general principle, surely the EULA that was current when you "purchased" the product should apply as long as you are using it?
Otherwise it would quite possible to suddenly find that you have paid for something which you can no longer use for the purpose for which you bought it, because the EULA has been changed. Once you purchase a product and accept the EULA, you shouldn't then be forced to accept an "updated/changed" EULA every year!
Well if you prefer it you can always consider yourself tied by the old EULA rather than the new one, which is very much more relaxed in what is permitted. :coolsmirk:
Looks really nice Ivy. Congratz :)