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Daniel BarnettDaniel Barnett Posts: 389
edited December 1969 in The Commons

I'm trying to understand the punch sales promo. If I have 10 punches and you go to the PA featured store and an item says 40% off and I add the "Additional 30% OFF featured PA stores" it should be 70% the item right? But on the same page it says that :punch discounts when they are achieved and do not stack on top of one another" then buying the "punchables" is worthless right?

Thanks!!
dbb

I do see when I add items to my cart that it is adding 10% more than the 40% off price so then it is stacking but only partly! Confusing no?

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    It would be extra 30% of the discounted price, not the full price

    so Take $100 40% discount makes that $60

    then 30% of $60 is $18 so the final price is $42.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,673
    edited December 2014

    Confusing yes! The punch promo tactic has kept me from buying several times. Sales I understand, I'm a winner. Freebies I understand, I'm a winner. But selling-games with complicated and confusing steps, levels & rules always make me think I'm a loser.

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,839
    edited December 2014

    If something is at 40% off and you have an additional 30% off you don't get 70% off the item. Sales percentages multiply, they dont add, meaning that you first take 40% off the full price, then 30% off the remaining price.
    So if your item is 10$, you get first 40% off => it's 6$, and then 30% off 6$ => final price is 4.2$, so 58% off the full price.

    "punch discounts when they are achieved do not stack on top of one another" means that the additional discount you get is the one for the most punches you have.
    So if you have 15 punches your additionnal discount is 20% off, not "5% for 5 punches AND 10% for 10 punches AND 20% for 15 punches".


    edit: I see chohole already answered.

    Post edited by Leana on
  • Daniel BarnettDaniel Barnett Posts: 389
    edited December 1969

    Leana said:
    If something is at 40% off and you have an additional 30% off you don't get 70% off the item. Sales percentages multiply, they dont add, meaning that you first take 40% off the full price, then 30% off the remaining price.
    So if your item is 10$, you get first 40% off => it's 6$, and then 30% off 6$ => final price is 4.2$, so 58% off the full price.

    "punch discounts when they are achieved do not stack on top of one another" means that the additional discount you get is the one for the most punches you have.
    So if you have 15 punches your additionnal discount is 20% off, not "5% for 5 punches AND 10% for 10 punches AND 20% for 15 punches".


    edit: I see chohole already answered.


    Thank you! I'm a little late in responding due to a tooth ache!!! I missed out on what I hade in my cart but your answer really help me to understand it. The stacking statement is what was throwing me off!!
    dbb
  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,839
    edited December 1969

    dbbdaniel said:
    Thank you! I'm a little late in responding due to a tooth ache!!! I missed out on what I hade in my cart but your answer really help me to understand it. The stacking statement is what was throwing me off!!
    dbb
    Glad I could help, and I hope the tooth ache goes away quickly...
  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631
    edited December 1969

    Leana said:
    If something is at 40% off and you have an additional 30% off you don't get 70% off the item. Sales percentages multiply, they dont add, meaning that you first take 40% off the full price, then 30% off the remaining price.
    So if your item is 10$, you get first 40% off => it's 6$, and then 30% off 6$ => final price is 4.2$, so 58% off the full price.

    "punch discounts when they are achieved do not stack on top of one another" means that the additional discount you get is the one for the most punches you have.
    So if you have 15 punches your additionnal discount is 20% off, not "5% for 5 punches AND 10% for 10 punches AND 20% for 15 punches".


    edit: I see chohole already answered.

    now please tell me why its called additional when its multiplying

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,770
    edited December 1969

    Additional = extra, not additional in the arithmetical sense.

  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631
    edited December 1969

    how would you call it if it should be added in arithmetical sense ?

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,673
    edited December 1969

    ruphuss said:
    how would you call it if it should be added in arithmetical sense ?

    An "unwise business practice"!

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,249
    edited December 1969

    ...these types of sales are definitely not intended for people on a tight budget

    For example, I had three punches (2 for PC priced items and one for another low cost item) last week but since I didn't purchase at least a total of 5 new releases by week's end, *poof* they disappeared (M6 for 10$ didn't count). When one is on a tight budget he or she is more choosy as to what to purchase and usually will pick items that would see ready use or fill a specific need. Impulse buying is a big "no-no". Then there are days that nothing interesting is released. I cannot justify plunking down even 1.99$ for something I rarely or never would use in a scene just to get another punch.

    It would be nice to once in a while see just a good old fashioned 50% off sale like we used to have with no gimmicks, games, or stings attached.

  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631
    edited December 1969

    ruphuss said:
    how would you call it if it should be added in arithmetical sense ?

    this is a serious question

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    edited December 1969

    ruphuss said:
    ruphuss said:
    how would you call it if it should be added in arithmetical sense ?

    this is a serious question

    Understood, but I don't know of any business that stacks discounts this way.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,770
    edited December 1969

    fixmypcmike said:
    ruphuss said:
    ruphuss said:
    how would you call it if it should be added in arithmetical sense ?

    this is a serious question

    Understood, but I don't know of any business that stacks discounts this way.

    It could say increase the discount to x+n%, or it would say it added an additional n percentage points to the discount. There are probably other ways to phrase it, but this is the way extra discounts (or other percentage adjustments, such as sales taxes) usually apply.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,673
    edited December 2014

    ruphuss said:
    ruphuss said:
    how would you call it if it should be added in arithmetical sense ?

    this is a serious question

    I had considered that, but came up with the conclusion that it is so rarely done in the business world that there doesn't appear to be a word for it. All answers to the question appear to be long phrases or arithmetical formulae. So I answered in jest until someone smarter than me pops in here.

    Possibly a mathematician might say "cumulatively" but I'm not exactly sure what that really implies outside of the world of mathematics and whether it would be understood in the same way by the unwashed masses.

    (*brain buzzes all night*) Nope! Still can't come up with a single word that is precise and in general use.

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
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