Agression: Why so much naked steel?

ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,674
edited December 1969 in The Commons

A new freebie: http://www.daz3d.com/more-deadly-edges brought to mind something I was contemplating while making a picture for the Daz Magazine Holiday Contest...Why are there so often no sheathes and holders with weapons.

I went looking for like a bandolier of throwing stars and found stars, but none in a holder..or sheaths for swords and daggers.

Are Victoria, Mei Lin, Michael, and Lee constantly cutting themselves on all these sharp edges lying around their runtime homes?

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    edited December 1969

    Scavenger said:
    A new freebie: http://www.daz3d.com/more-deadly-edges brought to mind something I was contemplating while making a picture for the Daz Magazine Holiday Contest...Why are there so often no sheathes and holders with weapons.

    I went looking for like a bandolier of throwing stars and found stars, but none in a holder..or sheaths for swords and daggers.

    Are Victoria, Mei Lin, Michael, and Lee constantly cutting themselves on all these sharp edges lying around their runtime homes?


    Yep. Especially since the girls tend to keep falling from trying to fight in high heels, while everyone wears armor that doesn't protect the most vulnerable parts of the human body. They're all big on shoulder protectors, though. They may run around with naked stomachs, bared chests, and unprotected skulls, but boy oh boy, if they get hit on that ONE shoulder that they've got ten pounds of metal on, they're covered.

    Needless to say, logic doesn't flow very deeply in the DAZ catalog.

  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,955
    edited December 1969

    Naked steel and naked Victoria go hand in hand. And in a temple too! :)

    Its up to the artist creating the content if a scabber should be included.

    Fantasy art does not normally comply with reality

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    no sharp edges in the love temples :)

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,591
    edited December 1969

    no sharp edges in the love temples :)

    as he gently slips his blade into her sheath :red:
  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631
    edited December 1969

    ha Wendy catches the ball(s) again

  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 7,850
    edited December 1969

    Its all about the shiny! And metal does tend to do that. Shine.

  • Subtropic PixelSubtropic Pixel Posts: 2,388
    edited December 1969

    I support the OP's point. Weapons seem to be unholstered a lot.

    On a slightly related point, I think it's lazy how Hollywood will use a metal-on-metal sound whenever a character sheathes or unsheathes his/her blade, even though the scabbard is made of a non-metal material such as leather or wood.

  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,955
    edited December 1969

    no sharp edges in the love temples :)

    as he gently slips his blade into her sheath :red:


    The term vagina is from Latin vāgīnae, literally "sheath" or "scabbard"

  • crifmer_a3ace2ba16crifmer_a3ace2ba16 Posts: 37
    edited December 2014

    Edit: Nevermind. I can't delete my post, so please ignore.

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  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited December 1969

    They're all big on shoulder protectors, though. They may run around with naked stomachs, bared chests, and unprotected skulls, but boy oh boy, if they get hit on that ONE shoulder that they've got ten pounds of metal on, they're covered.

    I'm laughing so hard... XD

  • cecilia.robinsoncecilia.robinson Posts: 2,208
    edited December 1969

    Mattymanx said:
    Fantasy art does not normally comply with reality

    Disagreed. Fantasy MUST comply with set laws, otherwise there is no immersion (suspension of disbelief). Sadly, 3D vendors have yet to discover this simple truth :).

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    edited December 1969

    Mattymanx said:
    Fantasy art does not normally comply with reality

    Disagreed. Fantasy MUST comply with set laws, otherwise there is no immersion (suspension of disbelief). Sadly, 3D vendors have yet to discover this simple truth :).

    I'll agree that it must comply with set laws, yes, but not necessarily the laws that we're familiar with. The key factor is that there has to be some kind of internal consistency or the whole thing falls apart. It doesn't even matter if those laws make no sense... Vampires, werewolves, pretty much any kind of magic involves taking a huge leap of faith, and Superman and Edgar Rice Burrough's Barsoom books are great modern examples of "these explanations don't make a lick of sense" that people have decided to buy into, anyway.

  • Eustace ScrubbEustace Scrubb Posts: 2,703
    edited December 1969

    Mattymanx said:
    Fantasy art does not normally comply with reality

    Disagreed. Fantasy MUST comply with set laws, otherwise there is no immersion (suspension of disbelief). Sadly, 3D vendors have yet to discover this simple truth :).

    I'll agree that it must comply with set laws, yes, but not necessarily the laws that we're familiar with. The key factor is that there has to be some kind of internal consistency or the whole thing falls apart. It doesn't even matter if those laws make no sense... Vampires, werewolves, pretty much any kind of magic involves taking a huge leap of faith, and Superman and Edgar Rice Burrough's Barsoom books are great modern examples of "these explanations don't make a lick of sense" that people have decided to buy into, anyway.
    I don't know Barsoom, but Burroughs' "Pellucidar" has an entire world walking upside-down, (as it would actually be) on the inner shell of the Earth's crust. After that, talking psychic dinosaurs and stationary moons are easy.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    edited December 1969

    Mattymanx said:
    Fantasy art does not normally comply with reality

    Disagreed. Fantasy MUST comply with set laws, otherwise there is no immersion (suspension of disbelief). Sadly, 3D vendors have yet to discover this simple truth :).

    I'll agree that it must comply with set laws, yes, but not necessarily the laws that we're familiar with. The key factor is that there has to be some kind of internal consistency or the whole thing falls apart. It doesn't even matter if those laws make no sense... Vampires, werewolves, pretty much any kind of magic involves taking a huge leap of faith, and Superman and Edgar Rice Burrough's Barsoom books are great modern examples of "these explanations don't make a lick of sense" that people have decided to buy into, anyway.
    I don't know Barsoom, but Burroughs' "Pellucidar" has an entire world walking upside-down, (as it would actually be) on the inner shell of the Earth's crust. After that, talking psychic dinosaurs and stationary moons are easy.

    Well, except for the whole second sun floating in the middle of Pellucidar thing and the little matter of the tides. Never mind what effects the moon's tidal pull would have on seas on the inside of the earth, but then there's the question of what it would be doing to the inner sun... and that leads to the question of what could possibly be burning long enough to last from the Jurassic age to now, not be so dense as produce enough gravity as to counter the weight of the crust, produce exactly the right amount of warmth to nuture outside life and... Oh, you get the idea. It's best just not to think about it. By comparison, the Barsoom books start with David Carter basically being wished from the Earth to the Red Planet makes oodles of sense.

    Then again, the Caprona series got even wackier with the idea of a land where everyone is born as a microorganism, then has to evolve from invertebrate to fish to amphibian all the way up through modern humans and flying men called the weiroo... yet somehow manages to have a stable ecology despite the fact that every single species would have to have to have astronomical reproduction rates given that the more evolved species would inevitably end up eating the majority of their own descendents...

    And need we go into Tarzan and the Ant Men...?

  • ValandarValandar Posts: 1,417
    edited December 1969

    The truth, from my POV? Scabbards are a complete and utter B**** to rig properly, to the satisfaction of DAZ QA. Basically, they have to be able to sit properly on the hip (or back) no matter what pose, no matter what body morph, and themselves should pose as well. It's a lot more difficult than it sounds.

  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,955
    edited December 1969

    I said "Fantasy art does not normally comply with reality" which is an obsevation of a genre. I did not make an emphatic statement that that is the way it is.

    I will also agree with Val on the creation side of it.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,677
    edited December 1969

    I've noticed that belts, thigh sheaths, and such can be problematic on figures. Back scabbards seem to work better than leg. But even belts and bandoliers look funky. Gen 4 seems to handle some better than genesis. but maybe that is just my perception. I've bought a few outfits which have been ruined by ugly stretchy weird belts. I can only imagine what those would look light with a scabbard or knife sheath attached.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,979
    edited December 1969

    no sharp edges in the love temples :)

    as he gently slips his blade into her sheath :red:

    Actually sheat, literally translated, is the common name for vagina in the Scandinavian countries.

  • TotteTotte Posts: 14,098
    edited December 1969

    Mattymanx said:
    no sharp edges in the love temples :)

    as he gently slips his blade into her sheath :red:


    The term vagina is from Latin vāgīnae, literally "sheath" or "scabbard"

    In Swedish it's the same word for Sheath/Scabbard and Vagina, just to complicate the life for foreigners ;-)

  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited December 1969

    Bet there are a lot more weekend mediaeval re-enactors over there... :lol:

  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,955
    edited December 1969

    Bet there are a lot more weekend mediaeval re-enactors over there... :lol:

    And many would be heroes will gladly say "My lady, I offer you my sword!"

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,591
    edited December 1969

    Totte said:
    Mattymanx said:
    no sharp edges in the love temples :)

    as he gently slips his blade into her sheath :red:


    The term vagina is from Latin vāgīnae, literally "sheath" or "scabbard"

    In Swedish it's the same word for Sheath/Scabbard and Vagina, just to complicate the life for foreigners ;-)
    :lol: no wonder they cannot be shown in renders!!!

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