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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,263
    MEC4D said:

    That's correct, images and banners that are in the posts not belong to DAZ server will show it as not secure . 

    L'Adair said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...the trouble is I've read enough about those updates and the bugs they often have (which tend to affect older hardware more) in tech reports to not ever want W10 on any machine. So true, I cannot take advantage of the new high core CPUs like Threadrippers, or the latest Intel offerings, but it's not that much of a concern as I really can't afford state of the art tech anyway since I am on a meagre fixed income. Just happy to have a single Titan-X right now.  

    I have a beefy firewall including an AV that is used by business which gets high marks for security and reliability (in one independent tech report, during several recent malware attacks, it stood up to all of them).  I also have anti malware and system cleaning utilities as well as am careful when online (usually the most common "fail point" when it comes to infection).   A little disturbed that the forums here show up as "Not Secure" though the main site does.  The last time I ever had a system infected, it was trusted to MS security. 

    That happens, I believe, when one of the posts on the page includes embedded images not hosted on Daz servers. If the hosting server, or maybe just the image url isn't https, the browser will show the page isn't secure. That's not to say you shouldn't be wary, though.

     

    Yes, and I believe Tumbler is a problem.

    Dana

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    See Dana, now it show secured since our banners are also on secured servers  

    DanaTA said:
    MEC4D said:

    That's correct, images and banners that are in the posts not belong to DAZ server will show it as not secure . 

    L'Adair said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...the trouble is I've read enough about those updates and the bugs they often have (which tend to affect older hardware more) in tech reports to not ever want W10 on any machine. So true, I cannot take advantage of the new high core CPUs like Threadrippers, or the latest Intel offerings, but it's not that much of a concern as I really can't afford state of the art tech anyway since I am on a meagre fixed income. Just happy to have a single Titan-X right now.  

    I have a beefy firewall including an AV that is used by business which gets high marks for security and reliability (in one independent tech report, during several recent malware attacks, it stood up to all of them).  I also have anti malware and system cleaning utilities as well as am careful when online (usually the most common "fail point" when it comes to infection).   A little disturbed that the forums here show up as "Not Secure" though the main site does.  The last time I ever had a system infected, it was trusted to MS security. 

    That happens, I believe, when one of the posts on the page includes embedded images not hosted on Daz servers. If the hosting server, or maybe just the image url isn't https, the browser will show the page isn't secure. That's not to say you shouldn't be wary, though.

     

    Yes, and I believe Tumbler is a problem.

    Dana

     

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,263

    If you go back a page, it is not secure.  Once it's not secure, it's never secure...unless you close the tab/window and open a new one directly on the secure page.

    Dana

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    Once a person post on this page that have image not on secured server it will be not secured , not that someone going to still your password lol , this forum was hacked enough times in the past  when it was on a different platform 

    DanaTA said:

    If you go back a page, it is not secure.  Once it's not secure, it's never secure...unless you close the tab/window and open a new one directly on the secure page.

    Dana

     

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    Did you saw the Nvidia presentation yesterday ? I am speechless 

    RTX 3090 !!!!

    I want 2 of them please !  with 21K cuda cores it would be insane , now a question how ready is iray in  DS for this rendering power, can it handle it? or waste of money waiting the next 3 years for improvement ?

    anyway what a jump ,

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 8,724
    edited September 2020
    MEC4D said:

    Did you saw the Nvidia presentation yesterday ? I am speechless 

    RTX 3090 !!!!

    I want 2 of them please !  with 21K cuda cores it would be insane , now a question how ready is iray in  DS for this rendering power, can it handle it? or waste of money waiting the next 3 years for improvement ?

    anyway what a jump ,

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

    I like the 24 GB of G6X memory bit!

    The not so good ...  Three unused expansion slots required

    Post edited by DoctorJellybean on
  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    That is obvious, amazing even with 1 card, could replace already my 4 Titan X instead and win huge on the power consumption , I run 12K cudas at 1350 Mhz , for the money I spent , I could buy 4 x 3090 , slap in the face angry

    however my system can handle only 2 of them at max with 1 slot space between them and still will use less power than my 4 cards

    adding to my Christmas wishlist for now lol

    Updating my system SSDs today to V-NAND SSD hopping for improvement so my budget is at zero again ..

    MEC4D said:

    Did you saw the Nvidia presentation yesterday ? I am speechless 

    RTX 3090 !!!!

    I want 2 of them please !  with 21K cuda cores it would be insane , now a question how ready is iray in  DS for this rendering power, can it handle it? or waste of money waiting the next 3 years for improvement ?

    anyway what a jump ,

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

    I like the 24 GB of G6X memory bit!

     

  • MEC4D said:
    adding to my Christmas wishlist for now lol

    Does Santa .... I mean hubby know about that laugh

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    I guess it will be on me this time but there is hope for a second card as well , who knows ..cheeky finger crossed  

    MEC4D said:
    adding to my Christmas wishlist for now lol

    Does Santa .... I mean hubby know about that laugh

     

  • jardinejardine Posts: 1,205

    yes, those 3090s do look really good! 

    i'm looking forward to seeing if the EVGA folks do anything interesting with them. 

    :)

    j

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    Me too , but the shroud is not easy to be changed, I wonder what they gonna do to improve the cooling , I wish they have water blocks as well in the option as it always working so well, after my MOBO and system updates my GPU get no hotter than 47-52C even after 1 hour of rendering, very stable on water cooling again  , this 3090 monster gonna be hot as hell on the fans only, and  it will blow direct into the heart of your system , can't wait to see it really in action by the tech gurus and see if it truly works well , for those that have CPU heat sink it not gonna work well .

    jardine said:

    yes, those 3090s do look really good! 

    i'm looking forward to seeing if the EVGA folks do anything interesting with them. 

    :)

    j

     

  • I have a Win7 and a Win10 and interestingly my Win7 has still been getting security updates daily.

  • MEC4D said:

    Did you saw the Nvidia presentation yesterday ? I am speechless 

    RTX 3090 !!!!

    I want 2 of them please !  with 21K cuda cores it would be insane , now a question how ready is iray in  DS for this rendering power, can it handle it? or waste of money waiting the next 3 years for improvement ?

    anyway what a jump ,

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

    I like the 24 GB of G6X memory bit!

    The not so good ...  Three unused expansion slots required

    Gigabyte Gaming 3090 looks to be very close to 2 slot. If it's not then just a few mm in it.
  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    Interesting , support for Windows 7 ended on January 14, 2020, no software, technical support or security updates according to Microsoft  

    I have a Win7 and a Win10 and interestingly my Win7 has still been getting security updates daily.

     

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    Yes it is but the cooling/fan part will cover the access to the 3th slot anyway  

    droidy001 said:
    MEC4D said:

    Did you saw the Nvidia presentation yesterday ? I am speechless 

    RTX 3090 !!!!

    I want 2 of them please !  with 21K cuda cores it would be insane , now a question how ready is iray in  DS for this rendering power, can it handle it? or waste of money waiting the next 3 years for improvement ?

    anyway what a jump ,

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

    I like the 24 GB of G6X memory bit!

    The not so good ...  Three unused expansion slots required

     

    Gigabyte Gaming 3090 looks to be very close to 2 slot. If it's not then just a few mm in it.

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,249
    MEC4D said:

    Did you saw the Intel CPU with the 61 cores as PCIe ? looks like a simple  GPU card with heat sink  .. imagine what you could do with all the threads , guys convert the cards to full plate water colling and running in PC , since they are made for server and have no fans inside so the air can flows freely in the server . That was kinder interesting .

    kyoto kid said:

    ...the trouble is I've read enough about those updates and the bugs they often have (which tend to affect older hardware more) in tech reports to not ever want W10 on any machine. So true, I cannot take advantage of the new high core CPUs like Threadrippers, or the latest Intel offerings, but it's not that much of a concern as I really can't afford state of the art tech anyway since I am on a meagre fixed income. Just happy to have a single Titan-X right now.  

    I have a beefy firewall including an AV that is used by business which gets high marks for security and reliability (in one independent tech report, during several recent malware attacks, it stood up to all of them).  I also have anti malware and system cleaning utilities as well as am careful when online (usually the most common "fail point" when it comes to infection).   A little disturbed that the forums here show up as "Not Secure" though the main site does.  The last time I ever had a system infected, it was trusted to MS security. 

     

    ...again 

    MEC4D said:

    Did you saw the Nvidia presentation yesterday ? I am speechless 

    RTX 3090 !!!!

    I want 2 of them please !  with 21K cuda cores it would be insane , now a question how ready is iray in  DS for this rendering power, can it handle it? or waste of money waiting the next 3 years for improvement ?

    anyway what a jump ,

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

    ...as I understand it is a triple slot card which needs more room. I know it will not work on my old MB the way the PCIe x16 slots are arranged which would essentially mean having to build a new system which I no way could afford on top of the 1,500$ price tag for the card. 

    While it mentions a new NVLINk bridge will be available, it describes it as being more of an SLI connection so it sounds as if it may not support memory pooling like NVLINk for the current RTX Titan and Quadros do.  

    Also makes me wonder if the Turing RTX Titan will be the end of the line. 

  • MEC4D said:

    Interesting , support for Windows 7 ended on January 14, 2020, no software, technical support or security updates according to Microsoft  

    I have a Win7 and a Win10 and interestingly my Win7 has still been getting security updates daily.

     

    yeah I have utterly no idea how that works

    it is only Home Premium too but I get updates every day, I have a Microsoft account and one update was Edge browser for Win7 with all my Chrome bookmarks etc ported over!

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,249
    edited September 2020

     

    MEC4D said:

    Interesting , support for Windows 7 ended on January 14, 2020, no software, technical support or security updates according to Microsoft  

    I have a Win7 and a Win10 and interestingly my Win7 has still been getting security updates daily.

     

    yeah I have utterly no idea how that works

    it is only Home Premium too but I get updates every day, I have a Microsoft account and one update was Edge browser for Win7 with all my Chrome bookmarks etc ported over!

    ...you are?  The only way I heard that was possible is by purchasing one of the extended support programmes from MS (which are not inexpesnive).

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • MEC4D said:

    Yes it is but the cooling/fan part will cover the access to the 3th slot anyway  

    droidy001 said:
    MEC4D said:

    Did you saw the Nvidia presentation yesterday ? I am speechless 

    RTX 3090 !!!!

    I want 2 of them please !  with 21K cuda cores it would be insane , now a question how ready is iray in  DS for this rendering power, can it handle it? or waste of money waiting the next 3 years for improvement ?

    anyway what a jump ,

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

    I like the 24 GB of G6X memory bit!

    The not so good ...  Three unused expansion slots required

     

    Gigabyte Gaming 3090 looks to be very close to 2 slot. If it's not then just a few mm in it.

     

    The Gigabyte Eagle is quite a bit thicker but the gaming is close. Guessing there'll be a market for slim 3090 coolers. Either that or take it apart and zip tie a couple of noctuas to it lol
  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,590
    edited September 2020
    kyoto kid said:

     

    MEC4D said:

    Interesting , support for Windows 7 ended on January 14, 2020, no software, technical support or security updates according to Microsoft  

    I have a Win7 and a Win10 and interestingly my Win7 has still been getting security updates daily.

     

    yeah I have utterly no idea how that works

    it is only Home Premium too but I get updates every day, I have a Microsoft account and one update was Edge browser for Win7 with all my Chrome bookmarks etc ported over!

    ...you are?  The only way I heard that was possible is by purchasing one of the extended support programmes from MS (which are not inexpesnive).

    I certainly never paid for any, I am wondering if it is related to something else such as my home network with my Win10 machine or Malwarebytes premium membership, the two computers certainly share information 

    Post edited by WendyLuvsCatz on
  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

     new NVLink bridge on the RTX 3090 model will be your only effective choice if you still want a dual-GPU setup and definitely not for games  , seems like the end of Titan X series .. unless the rumored 12 pin power connectors will be used to power the new Titan X with 600W  . The way Nvidia talked about the 3090, seems to be the true replacement of the series 

    kyoto kid said:
    MEC4D said:

     

    ...as I understand it is a triple slot card which needs more room. I know it will not work on my old MB the way the PCIe x16 slots are arranged which would essentially mean having to build a new system which I no way could afford on top of the 1,500$ price tag for the card. 

    While it mentions a new NVLINk bridge will be available, it describes it as being more of an SLI connection so it sounds as if it may not support memory pooling like NVLINk for the current RTX Titan and Quadros do.  

    Also makes me wonder if the Turing RTX Titan will be the end of the line. 

     

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    the problem here is that the card itself take already 2 slots in dimension without cooling , adding anything to it will ends in the same  unless maybe water block , we will see

    droidy001 said:
    MEC4D said:

    Yes it is but the cooling/fan part will cover the access to the 3th slot anyway  

    droidy001 said:
    MEC4D said:

    Did you saw the Nvidia presentation yesterday ? I am speechless 

    RTX 3090 !!!!

    I want 2 of them please !  with 21K cuda cores it would be insane , now a question how ready is iray in  DS for this rendering power, can it handle it? or waste of money waiting the next 3 years for improvement ?

    anyway what a jump ,

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

    I like the 24 GB of G6X memory bit!

    The not so good ...  Three unused expansion slots required

     

    Gigabyte Gaming 3090 looks to be very close to 2 slot. If it's not then just a few mm in it.

     

     

    The Gigabyte Eagle is quite a bit thicker but the gaming is close. Guessing there'll be a market for slim 3090 coolers. Either that or take it apart and zip tie a couple of noctuas to it lol

     

  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 5,997
    MEC4D said:

    Interesting , support for Windows 7 ended on January 14, 2020, no software, technical support or security updates according to Microsoft  

    I have a Win7 and a Win10 and interestingly my Win7 has still been getting security updates daily.

     

    I just got a security update .. :)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,249
    edited September 2020
    kyoto kid said:

     

    MEC4D said:

    Interesting , support for Windows 7 ended on January 14, 2020, no software, technical support or security updates according to Microsoft  

    I have a Win7 and a Win10 and interestingly my Win7 has still been getting security updates daily.

     

    yeah I have utterly no idea how that works

    it is only Home Premium too but I get updates every day, I have a Microsoft account and one update was Edge browser for Win7 with all my Chrome bookmarks etc ported over!

    ...you are?  The only way I heard that was possible is by purchasing one of the extended support programmes from MS (which are not inexpesnive).

    I certainly never paid for any, I am wondering if it is related to something else such as my home network with my Win10 machine or Malwarebytes premium membership, the two computers certainly share information 

    ...ah, possibly because of your network having one W10 node.  Both of my systems are W7 Pro.  I also get frequent notices of updates for my AV, system maintenance, Java, and anti-malware utilities as well.

    SimonJM said:
    MEC4D said:

    Interesting , support for Windows 7 ended on January 14, 2020, no software, technical support or security updates according to Microsoft  

    I have a Win7 and a Win10 and interestingly my Win7 has still been getting security updates daily.

     

    I just got a security update .. :)

    ...the last "Important" (security) updates I received were on January 14th of this year just before extended support  for W7 ended. There was one on May 12th for the MS Malicious Malware Removal Tool (KB890830) which I didn't install because it has been noted to have conflicts with third party AV software. 

    As to KB4534310 (the January 14th rollup update) it had a bug that caused a "black desktop" if one has a stretched wallpaper (MS even confirmed this". So I avoided that one as well as I have dual display set-up with a stretched wallpaper shared by both. 

    KB4535102 for MS .Net Fremework (the other January 14th update) failed to install on multiple attempts.

    I have always checked reports on updates for bugs or other issues for quite a while now and since I have my system has run smoothly. I never bother ed much with feature updates as most don't apply to or fit my needs (such as updates for Edge [which I don't use], language, and parental control) and some have contained driver updates with bugs.  For driver updates I always go directly to the manufacturer's site.

    In opening the Control Panel it mentioned that the most recent scan for updates was yesterday (01-Sept-20 at 23:32 local time).  Nothing new has been added to the Important Updates pane since the three that I mentioned above..

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    I am happy you got too, keep it safe Simon ! 

    SimonJM said:
    MEC4D said:

    Interesting , support for Windows 7 ended on January 14, 2020, no software, technical support or security updates according to Microsoft  

    I have a Win7 and a Win10 and interestingly my Win7 has still been getting security updates daily.

     

    I just got a security update .. :)

     

  • droidy001droidy001 Posts: 282
    edited September 2020
    MEC4D said:

    the problem here is that the card itself take already 2 slots in dimension without cooling , adding anything to it will ends in the same  unless maybe water block , we will see

    droidy001 said:
    MEC4D said:

    Yes it is but the cooling/fan part will cover the access to the 3th slot anyway  

    droidy001 said:
    MEC4D said:

    Did you saw the Nvidia presentation yesterday ? I am speechless 

    RTX 3090 !!!!

    I want 2 of them please !  with 21K cuda cores it would be insane , now a question how ready is iray in  DS for this rendering power, can it handle it? or waste of money waiting the next 3 years for improvement ?

    anyway what a jump ,

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

    I like the 24 GB of G6X memory bit!

    The not so good ...  Three unused expansion slots required

     

    Gigabyte Gaming 3090 looks to be very close to 2 slot. If it's not then just a few mm in it.

     

     

    The Gigabyte Eagle is quite a bit thicker but the gaming is close. Guessing there'll be a market for slim 3090 coolers. Either that or take it apart and zip tie a couple of noctuas to it lol

     

    This one actually looks like its 2 slot including cooling. https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-oc-24gb-gddr6x-ray-tracing-graphics-card
    Post edited by droidy001 on
  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 5,997
    MEC4D said:

    I am happy you got too, keep it safe Simon ! 

    SimonJM said:
    MEC4D said:

    Interesting , support for Windows 7 ended on January 14, 2020, no software, technical support or security updates according to Microsoft  

    I have a Win7 and a Win10 and interestingly my Win7 has still been getting security updates daily.

     

    I just got a security update .. :)

     

    It was 'just' Security Intelligence Update for Windows Defender Antivirus - KB915597 (Version 1.323.220.0), and the previous updates have been of the same ilk

  • yes asked on facebook 

    a few people get security updates

    probably others have a third party antivirus 

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    2 and half slot , so covering half of your next PCIe connector , the fans are on the bottom  , some motherboards don't have any PCIe below the first one, but MOBOS with  4 way SLI usually always do

    Only 2 cards will fit in 4 way SLI motherboard and the bottom card will ends slightly before the USB , RGB and  front panel cable connectors, I checked with 4 Motherboards 3 and 4 ways SLI and with the same results 

    The 3080 looks like Titan X on steroids and is much smaller , however the 3090 will render probably faster than my 4 xTitan X + 24GB on top of that, not only for iray but also for my other applications , plus will use half the power or even less since rendering not use more than 70% of the total power.

    Do you need a new Motherboard to support the PCIe 4 ? Yes you do for optimal workflow but will also on PCIe 3 , how much speed you will  lose?, there is nothing yet about, do you need a new power supply to support the new 12 pin power connector? Yes and no, you can use an adapter provided by Nvidia . I use EVGA 8+8 adapters on my Titan X cards as I hate the 6+8 split cables hanging in the front and work great.

    The conclusion is, I would be very happy with just 1 x 3090 as long there is 100% sure that iray in D|S is ready for it and will take full advantage of this card , so taking my time and not jumping in as I learned my very expensive lesson last time . I am still happy with my rig, and usually use only 2 cards for regular stuff what is 6144 cuda cores at 1350Mhz and that is already pretty fast with the last D|S beta build .

     

    droidy001 said:
    MEC4D said:

    the problem here is that the card itself take already 2 slots in dimension without cooling , adding anything to it will ends in the same  unless maybe water block , we will see

    droidy001 said:
    MEC4D said:

    Yes it is but the cooling/fan part will cover the access to the 3th slot anyway  

    droidy001 said:
    MEC4D said:

    Did you saw the Nvidia presentation yesterday ? I am speechless 

    RTX 3090 !!!!

    I want 2 of them please !  with 21K cuda cores it would be insane , now a question how ready is iray in  DS for this rendering power, can it handle it? or waste of money waiting the next 3 years for improvement ?

    anyway what a jump ,

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

    I like the 24 GB of G6X memory bit!

    The not so good ...  Three unused expansion slots required

     

    Gigabyte Gaming 3090 looks to be very close to 2 slot. If it's not then just a few mm in it.

     

     

    The Gigabyte Eagle is quite a bit thicker but the gaming is close. Guessing there'll be a market for slim 3090 coolers. Either that or take it apart and zip tie a couple of noctuas to it lol

     

     

    This one actually looks like its 2 slot including cooling. https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-oc-24gb-gddr6x-ray-tracing-graphics-card

     

  • There is always aa work around. I would struggle in my case with 2 cards of any type. The intake is all at the bottom so getting good airflow to the top card would be difficult. Doesn't pci-e 4 only affect the speed of getting data to and from the card? Once loaded and rendering it shouldn't make a difference. If I'm understanding it correctly.
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