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  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    Antivirus will not patch holes in your system , the only 100% protection is to get offline . I was hacked once after opening jpg  between1998-99 , the hacker wrote on my screen commenting on my render in Poser, I run in panic and format my HD and installed new windows. lol 

    yes asked on facebook 

    a few people get security updates

    probably others have a third party antivirus 

     

  • MEC4D said:

    Antivirus will not patch holes in your system , the only 100% protection is to get offline . I was hacked once after opening jpg  between1998-99 , the hacker wrote on my screen commenting on my render in Poser, I run in panic and format my HD and installed new windows. lol 

    yes asked on facebook 

    a few people get security updates

    probably others have a third party antivirus 

     

    yes know, I do have Malwarebytes Premium too but generally don't browse on that PC

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,249
    edited September 2020

    ...my MB is still PCIe 2.0 so not sure if it will work.  It would also mean foregoing my 2 GPU set-up where the Titan-X is reserved just for rendering and a lesser VRAM card is used to drive the displays.  Of course with 24 GB I guess I wouldn't need the second card anyway and again with over 10,000 CUDA cores (more than the equivalent of 3 Titan-X's) plus the tensor and RTX cores, viewport response would be incredible even in Iray mode.

    As my rendering system is still on W7, the Windows "footprint" on VRAM is much smaller to the point of almost being negligible, so I'd still have pretty close to the "advertised" amount of VRAM available.  The trick is I only have the 6 + 2 power connectors.

    ...hmmm, have to rethink this as it says a 750W PSU (which I have) is sufficient.  It also does specify 8 x 2 power connectors in the specs. (would need to get a couple adapters).  1,500$ is an easier goal than 2,500$ to meet, provided of course that it works with my older tech.

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  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    If you struggle with 2 cards of any type then it may not work for you , you need at last one empty slot between to get with the 3090 , I could put only 2 of them in my 4 way SLI ATX-E with 1 and half slot left between them for air intake and my 7 slot will be taken and nothing else will go in and the south bridge section totally covered to the bottom . That why I use water cooling on my currently rig to avoid over heating as the cards are very tight together .I don't know what motherboard type you have so. hard to tell exactly .

    I am waiting for the tech gurus to check it out and see if it affect the rendering speed or not , the data is processed constantly until the render is done so it may affect the speed but not sure 100% how much of it  but for sure the iray viewport when you moving around . Gaming and Rendering are two different animals , so waiting for the rendering with iray review to know more about .

    droidy001 said:
    There is always aa work around. I would struggle in my case with 2 cards of any type. The intake is all at the bottom so getting good airflow to the top card would be difficult. Doesn't pci-e 4 only affect the speed of getting data to and from the card? Once loaded and rendering it shouldn't make a difference. If I'm understanding it correctly.

     

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    edited September 2020
    kyoto kid said:

    ...my MB is still PCIe 2.0 so not sure if it will work.  It would also mean foregoing my 2 GPU set-up where the Titan-X is reserved just for rendering and a lesser VRAM card is used to drive the displays.  Of course with 24 GB I guess I wouldn't need the second card anyway and again with over 10,000 CUDA cores (more than the equivalent of 3 Titan-X's) plus the tensor and RTX cores, viewport response would be incredible even in Iray mode.

    As my rendering system is still on W7, the Windows "footprint" on VRAM is much smaller to the point of almost being negligible, so I'd still have pretty close to the "advertised" amount of VRAM available.  The trick is I only have the 6 + 2 power connectors.

    ...hmmm, have to rethink this as it says a 750W PSU (which I have) is sufficient.  It also does specify 8 x 2 power connectors in the specs. (would need to get a couple adapters).  1,500$ is an easier goal than 2,500$ to save for, provided it works with my older tech.

    I've got to make sure it will work with my Asus X99-E Mobo, but if it will and if I make the leap, I'll buy from Amazon and use my Amazon CC. At that price, I can make equal payments for 18 months without having to pay interest. There is also the possibility of using Paypal Credit and getting a no-interest offer, (buying other than from Amazon,) though I don't think I've seen it go beyond 6 months in the last several years.

    If the RTX 3000 series won't work, maybe the RTX 2000 will, and I can add one of those instead. Hopefully for a bit less money!

    It's kind of funny, when I bought the beast, people thought I was a little bit crazy buying a 1500W power supply. But for "a few" dollars more then, I don't need to worry about buying a new PS when I add another Nvidia graphics card to the box!

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  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    It is 12 pin small new Nvidia  power connector with adapter to 2x8 if used with older PSU, 750W will be just fine , not sure with PCIe 2.0 , I know it is compatible with PCIe 3.0 only

    and yes the price is amazing !  I am totally sold ! 

    When I use 2 cards or 4, the iray viewport is little faster but not that huge difference , but rendering yes as all cards compute at 100%, however using just 1 card with this power will change the game for sure

    kyoto kid said:

    ...my MB is still PCIe 2.0 so not sure if it will work.  It would also mean foregoing my 2 GPU set-up where the Titan-X is reserved just for rendering and a lesser VRAM card is used to drive the displays.  Of course with 24 GB I guess I wouldn't need the second card anyway and again with over 10,000 CUDA cores (more than the equivalent of 3 Titan-X's) plus the tensor and RTX cores, viewport response would be incredible even in Iray mode.

    As my rendering system is still on W7, the Windows "footprint" on VRAM is much smaller to the point of almost being negligible, so I'd still have pretty close to the "advertised" amount of VRAM available.  The trick is I only have the 6 + 2 power connectors.

    ...hmmm, have to rethink this as it says a 750W PSU (which I have) is sufficient.  It also does specify 8 x 2 power connectors in the specs. (would need to get a couple adapters).  1,500$ is an easier goal than 2,500$ to meet, provided of course that it works with my older tech.

     

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

     It gonna works , you have first slot with PCIe 3.0 , and with 1500W you are ready for this task 

    L'Adair said:

    I've got to make sure it will work with my Asus X99-E Mobo, but if it will and if I make the leap, I'll buy from Amazon and use my Amazon CC. At that price, I can make equal payments for 18 months without having to pay interest. There is also the possibility of using Paypal Credit and getting a no-interest offer, (buying other than from Amazon,) though I don't think I've seen it go beyond 6 months in the last several years.

    If the RTX 3000 series won't work, maybe the RTX 2000 will, and I can add one of those instead. Hopefully for a bit less money!

    It's kind of funny, when I bought the beast, people thought I was a little bit crazy buying a 1500W power supply. But for "a few" dollars more then, I don't need to worry about buying a new PS when I add another Nvidia graphics card to the box!

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,249
    edited September 2020
    MEC4D said:

    It is 12 pin small new Nvidia  power connector with adapter to 2x8 if used with older PSU, 750W will be just fine , not sure with PCIe 2.0 , I know it is compatible with PCIe 3.0 only

    and yes the price is amazing !  I am totally sold ! 

    When I use 2 cards or 4, the iray viewport is little faster but not that huge difference , but rendering yes as all cards compute at 100%, however using just 1 card with this power will change the game for sure

    kyoto kid said:

    ...my MB is still PCIe 2.0 so not sure if it will work.  It would also mean foregoing my 2 GPU set-up where the Titan-X is reserved just for rendering and a lesser VRAM card is used to drive the displays.  Of course with 24 GB I guess I wouldn't need the second card anyway and again with over 10,000 CUDA cores (more than the equivalent of 3 Titan-X's) plus the tensor and RTX cores, viewport response would be incredible even in Iray mode.

    As my rendering system is still on W7, the Windows "footprint" on VRAM is much smaller to the point of almost being negligible, so I'd still have pretty close to the "advertised" amount of VRAM available.  The trick is I only have the 6 + 2 power connectors.

    ...hmmm, have to rethink this as it says a 750W PSU (which I have) is sufficient.  It also does specify 8 x 2 power connectors in the specs. (would need to get a couple adapters).  1,500$ is an easier goal than 2,500$ to meet, provided of course that it works with my older tech.

     

    ...yeah, can't afford a new MB as that would essentially mean building a totally new system as PCIe 3 boards are DDR4 which means new memory, and given how Intel changes socket types like we change our socks whenever they release a new CPU line, a new one of those as well.

    I need to do more research. 

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  • kyoto kid said:
    and given how Intel changes socket types like we change our socks whenever they release a new CPU line, a new one of those as well.

    There is always AMD.

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    I agree, I have 2 pretty good i7 CPUs and one of them new that can't be used because of the socket as there is no MOBO to buy other than used and double overpriced to fit the socket, I was searching for over 1 month, that why I had no choice and bought everything new , what a waste . That is the way they run the business. And for what? the newest CPUs are not that great as advertised , too many of them in too short period of time same for the graphic cards , too fast for my taste but at last Nvidia made great jump with something really great and reasonable prices

    kyoto kid said:
    MEC4D said:

     

    ...yeah, can't afford a new MB as that would essentially mean building a totally new system as PCIe 3 boards are DDR4 which means new memory, and given how Intel changes socket types like we change our socks whenever they release a new CPU line, a new one of those as well.

    I need to do more research. 

     

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    I was thinking about that, for now I am secured for the next 3 years and I really needed my 48 lanes CPU on budget, we see next time what they gonna offer if I need new one , the CPU game between Intel and AMD is ridiculous and kinda childish 

    There is always AMD.

     

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    I just saw EVGA 3 fans version, I guess the V-NAND SSD gonna fry by the  heat coming from the open radiators on full load , The Nvidia original design looks like  the best fan cooling option so far

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    Well, we have water cooling options already , goodbye heat from the system , 3th slot will be free again lol

    https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-vector-rtx-3080-3090-d-rgb-nickel-plexi

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    BTW have anybody copy of DeepPaint3D version 2.3.1.1 ?  my older version 2.1 and 2.3.0.9 don't works proper with the brushes, and can't find nowhere the last version in my backups or online , it just vanished when I cloned yesterday my HDs , I finishing G8F clothing set freebie for you guys and need my stich brushes but can't save them in the version I have,  so annoying once I close the software all my brushes are gone and not saved.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,263
    edited September 2020
    MEC4D said:

    BTW have anybody copy of DeepPaint3D version 2.3.1.1 ?  my older version 2.1 and 2.3.0.9 don't works proper with the brushes, and can't find nowhere the last version in my backups or online , it just vanished when I cloned yesterday my HDs , I finishing G8F clothing set freebie for you guys and need my stich brushes but can't save them in the version I have,  so annoying once I close the software all my brushes are gone and not saved.

    https://download.cnet.com/Deep-Paint-3D/3000-2193_4-127819.html

    Dana

     

    Sorry, that link doesn't offer download anymore.

     

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,249
    edited September 2020
    kyoto kid said:
    and given how Intel changes socket types like we change our socks whenever they release a new CPU line, a new one of those as well.

    There is always AMD.

    ...but that would also mean a new MB along with new memory and a new CPU.  As I mentioned, I don't have the income to build and entirely new system on top of purchasing a new GPU.  It would also mean migrating to W10 which I've had a number of well founded reservations about for the last five years. 

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  • DanaTA said:
    MEC4D said:

    BTW have anybody copy of DeepPaint3D version 2.3.1.1 ?  my older version 2.1 and 2.3.0.9 don't works proper with the brushes, and can't find nowhere the last version in my backups or online , it just vanished when I cloned yesterday my HDs , I finishing G8F clothing set freebie for you guys and need my stich brushes but can't save them in the version I have,  so annoying once I close the software all my brushes are gone and not saved.

    https://download.cnet.com/Deep-Paint-3D/3000-2193_4-127819.html

    Dana

     

    Sorry, that link doesn't offer download anymore.

     

    Searched that too... no luck crying

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    That's ok, the company is gone already, I searched all day and all the links are broken and all I found was the old version I still have  ,  time for me to change the game and leave sentiments , however I am going to miss it as it was quick fix for texturing and amazing options for custom brushes  , but when one doors close another reopen , and I found out yesterday that I can import my custom DP3D brushes to Zbrush and do just the same , painting stitches with color textures and sculpting with it at the same time while texturing with the difference that the model need to be subdivied to couple of millions poly , but it works amazing and everything at ounce is done so time saving with my new routine .I was very surprised that it worked the same way and there is not even documentation or manual about this or even tutorial and this have nothing to do with the spot light texturing, I had it there for so many years just in front of my nose and did not know about , you never too old to learn something new .lol

    DanaTA said:
    MEC4D said:

    BTW have anybody copy of DeepPaint3D version 2.3.1.1 ?  my older version 2.1 and 2.3.0.9 don't works proper with the brushes, and can't find nowhere the last version in my backups or online , it just vanished when I cloned yesterday my HDs , I finishing G8F clothing set freebie for you guys and need my stich brushes but can't save them in the version I have,  so annoying once I close the software all my brushes are gone and not saved.

    https://download.cnet.com/Deep-Paint-3D/3000-2193_4-127819.html

    Dana

     

    Sorry, that link doesn't offer download anymore.

     

     

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    There is a new TI. Nvidia card coming and it have 16GB VRAM and it is not 3090 , it will be 380Ti or 370Ti , it was so quick I did not cached , a company released specifications by mistake but it was quickly gone .

    Also there is also new water cooled 3080 hybrid , very flat that take only 2 slots and have double radiator with 2 fans , and zero fans on the card itself , I guess if they make 3090 version of it, it will for sure have 3 fans radiator

    so far from all the reviews the 3090 founder edition have the best fan cooling system and looks.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,249

    ...speaking of texturing, I almost jumped on getting FilterForge 9 with the Flash discount coupon, but already have too many "irons in the fire", particularly as I am still in the process of recouping all my scenes and character that were lost during the drive meltdown 18 months ago.

    Also not quite where I want to be on modelling yet (and Blender 2.9 just dropped) to start learning how to create UVs. 

  • MEC4D said:

    Remember old freebie 4th July dress ?

    no one mentioned anything about this. Are you releasing this in dforce as a freebie?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,249

    ...yeah I lost all those freebies in the drive meltdown. 

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    I am working on so much projects at this moment did not go into dforce yet , I run some simulations on the dress to check stuff out , I am behind the new stuff in D|S .

    I am working on another clothing freebie set that don't need dforce , I will get deeper into it when time allow and then convert the old freebie or make better new one , it is 10 min of work for the modeling .

    -0__0- said:
    MEC4D said:

    Remember old freebie 4th July dress ?

    no one mentioned anything about this. Are you releasing this in dforce as a freebie?

     

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    Well I abandoned all my UVs programs , there is nothing faster than Zbrush for UVs and not much to learn about  I wonder if the free Zbrush core mini have UVs pluging so you can try

    if you go into Blender you will not want to come back to D|S lol I know I would not , I stay away from it, it is too good and so tempting , my forbiden fruit lol

    kyoto kid said:

    ...speaking of texturing, I almost jumped on getting FilterForge 9 with the Flash discount coupon, but already have too many "irons in the fire", particularly as I am still in the process of recouping all my scenes and character that were lost during the drive meltdown 18 months ago.

    Also not quite where I want to be on modelling yet (and Blender 2.9 just dropped) to start learning how to create UVs. 

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,249
    edited September 2020

    ...I'm using Blender primarily for modelling since further development of Hexagon seems to have stalled indefinitely.  I will continue to be fairly dependent on Daz assets for the most part as character figures and other "organic" forms that come even close to approaching the level of what Daz3D already offers, are way far complex to even consider working on from scratch.  My primary goals with it are to create props, structures, and other objects specific to my stories and RPG scenarios which are not commercially available, along with custom morph development and some sculpting for character design.  Hexagon, even though it has been updated to 64 bit is still not as "robust" a modelling programme as Blender is, and I've still experienced crashes when trying to work on complex or high poly models.

    I don't work with animation at all (don't even use dForce) as I'm still on rather old hardware that doesn't have the "horsepower" for it. so that function will never be used.   True, Cycles having out of core rendering is attractive, but that would mean having to manually convert Daz Iray/3dl materials, which for a big scene, is a pretty involved process.

    The nice part about the new version of Blender (besides the more intuitive pointer and icon driven UI) is that I feel it is more well organised than it was in the past so I just can focus on the modelling, sculpting, and UV functions without having anything else I don't need or want in the way.

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  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    Sorry @kyoto kid I just saw your reply, missed the notification , Blender have nice modeling option as do Zbrush, however I never likes the hard edge modeling in Zbrush and never ever tried it until last night for the first time since Zbrush release, I am organic modeler and never had the oassion to hard edge modeling , but I guess with the all competition it is time to upgrade my skills.

    I made yesterday low poly test model using Zmodeler for the first time ever and the job was going faster than ever .

    let me know all what you think about , I am kinda shy with this one  , rendered with iray, around 3 min per image with 3 lights no HDRI  , shaders are from my Iray shader packs , regular and the satin shaders for the walls and cloths .

    is this worth finishing ?

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,249

    ...that looks very nice.  I especially like the images with the wood textures  I'd buy that if it were in the store. 

    Yeah for myself it is either come up with 725$ (on a tight fixed income) for ZBrush, or go with Blender which is free. This is why many years ago I learned Gimp instead of Photoshop.

    Yeah, as I am in my late years, just learning hard surface modelling is enough of an undertaking.  Organic is much more complex to get right.

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    I saw yesterday RTX 3090 in action using iray  , seems like the same or maybe little slower speed in iray as 3 of my GTX Titan X  they used denoiser so hard to tell ,  I use denoiser om my last 2 frames before finish to get rid of fireflies other way it render forever if started too early and a lot of details get missed . I used denoiser on the images from the Bedroom above.

    I am not going to update until I am sure I am getting 2 x 3090 other way for me not huge difference .

    And I hate the frontal 12 pin connector with the horrible short 2 headed snake adapter , what a shame in design  , thankfully for PSUs with modular power cables there are 12 pin cables avaliable to use with this card , 1x12 pin cable  will take 2 x8 pin outlets from your PSU, so problem solved . 

    kyoto kid said:

    ...I'm using Blender primarily for modelling since further development of Hexagon seems to have stalled indefinitely.  I will continue to be fairly dependent on Daz assets for the most part as character figures and other "organic" forms that come even close to approaching the level of what Daz3D already offers, are way far complex to even consider working on from scratch.  My primary goals with it are to create props, structures, and other objects specific to my stories and RPG scenarios which are not commercially available, along with custom morph development and some sculpting for character design.  Hexagon, even though it has been updated to 64 bit is still not as "robust" a modelling programme as Blender is, and I've still experienced crashes when trying to work on complex or high poly models.

    I don't work with animation at all (don't even use dForce) as I'm still on rather old hardware that doesn't have the "horsepower" for it. so that function will never be used.   True, Cycles having out of core rendering is attractive, but that would mean having to manually convert Daz Iray/3dl materials, which for a big scene, is a pretty involved process.

    The nice part about the new version of Blender (besides the more intuitive pointer and icon driven UI) is that I feel it is more well organised than it was in the past so I just can focus on the modelling, sculpting, and UV functions without having anything else I don't need or want in the way.

     

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited September 2020

    I was not thinking about the store , just as a freebie , it is my first hard edge model so I want you to be my judges .. 

    I textured it with my store shaders for Iray, the whole scene just click and next .. 

    The wood and stone was my first image , imagined my bedroom in the little house in the mountains lol 

    I still need to make the lamps and accessories for it , like books and little props and practice on it a little more .

    The night stands can be used as windows for extra light or just mirrors 

    the whole set was made from a simple Cube primitive from DS 

    just 1 min, previews for references , going to finish tonight the whole room and add some windows as well on the other side , however it render fast since the room is closed and light bounce faster, having glass in the windows and render with outdoor HDRI will slow down the rendering , I found out that light that passes through glass for indoor scenes make the rendering time double and very noisy , that why I made the fake windows night stands , emitters do the job faster and better , I may make some HDRI windiws panel so when rendering eith Canvases you can tone mapping the render and have all details from indoor and outdoor .

    kyoto kid said:

    ...that looks very nice.  I especially like the images with the wood textures  I'd buy that if it were in the store. 

    Yeah for myself it is either come up with 725$ (on a tight fixed income) for ZBrush, or go with Blender which is free. This is why many years ago I learned Gimp instead of Photoshop.

    Yeah, as I am in my late years, just learning hard surface modelling is enough of an undertaking.  Organic is much more complex to get right.

     

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  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479

    I think it's beautiful. Definitely worth finishing. (And I would buy it, too!) That you're thinking of it as a freebie is mind-boggling.

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