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Niice!! I like that character better with Xiu Lin's skin :)
As usual, I like Mousso's character a lot better than the official DAZ core character (she seems to be teamed up with someone new, but still creates the best characters in the store IMO.) Xui Lin looks much better to me mixed with Angela (which I don't have yet,) so maybe dialed down a bit and mixed with other characters, she'd be OK. Probably would mix well with Josie that I do have. I put the Aroon bundle and Fanny and jewelry in my cart, then realized adding the makeup makes it cheaper than without it. The price goes down quite a bit with 4 things in the cart. I'm a sucker for Asian characters and outfits.
I like her. No moolah though.
He's Ah Aight. As per usual, it's the totality of the bundles that sucks me in.
That may not be a fault of the model, but rather of DAZ's promotional photos, which almost always seem to make their figures look much worse than they actually are these days even as they continue to try to charge more for the same thing. That said, I'd wait until some renders start coming out from artists from outside the Utah enclave before drawing any final conclusions.
There are a lot of weird issues with this character. The skin is all over the place. I thought all the non toon core models were using the same exact 8K normal map for details (which contributes to how they look so similar,) but this one somehow manages to get really inconsistant.
In this and other promos, her skin has a sudden extremely smooth surface in the middle of her cheek. It makes no logical sense, even if she has makeup on, the makeup would have a texture to it and not be perfectly smooth. Yet this spot isn't really where the bulk of makeup is applied. I don't what the issue is, but it looks all kinds of wrong.
Then you look at her neck, I thought the entire point of redoing the UV map was to prevent this. Her neck is rough! She is a female, correct? A woman's neck is often quite supple and soft. Continue to go down her neck, and you will see yet another ultra smooth area going into her collarbone. So this random spot and collarbone are smoother than her neck? Does that make sense to anybody? The abnormally smooth skin also makes the light reflect stronger than it should, leading to a more synthetic appearance.
Aside from the skin conditions, her expressions seem paticularly unnatural. This character just looks "off". It is dissapointing after Mr Kahn seemed to be heading in a better direction.
Meanwhile Mousso slam dunks it with her character. I don't think it is great to have a core character completely upstaged by an add in bundle character. It certainly isn't the first time, but I find it funny, and mostly sad. Like I have said before, I believe very strongly that "Daz Core" models should be setting the standards that others look up to. They need to in order to justify their higher than typical model prices, especially since something like makeup is an extra purchase now. Xui Lin is $50 as a stand alone purchase, while Fanny is $27 and includes her makeups. So...just buy Fanny, LOL. I know there is "always a sale" but the non sale prices are pretty important and IMO set the expectation for what the product quality should be. A core model should not exist purely for a bundle deal. A core model should be able to stand on their own.
Fanny HD for G9 Feminine loads without eye textures or eyelash textures. I have submitted a help request. How could this slip past QA?
Xiu Lin 9
I used Minerva makeup on Xiu Lin 9, since I didn't buy her own makeup.
@outrider42 I wonder if some of the smoothness you see is due to using the denoiser. I didn't use the denoiser in the image I posted above, and I don't see smooth cheeks there.
Wow, Fanny is a disappointment. In addition to loading without eye or eyelash textures applied, her skin doesn't respond well to the lights I normally use for character portraits (Click N Render IBL Set). This is how Fanny looks with the same lights I used for Xiu Lin 9 above. Her face shape is nice and she comes with makeup. She comes with both PBR and Iray Uber skins, but both look equally bad to me. She doesn't use the 8K detail maps that most G9 characters use (Detail is is disabled). She looks nice in the promos, but not in my renders. Maybe I am doing something wrong, so it would be nice to see what other users get.
Fanny HD
What's up with the razor's edge eyelid upper fold? I was morphing G9 facially this week for the first time (using Victoria, MW Elisabeth, & MW new girl, and I had the same problem. I've bought all the morph packs available, including one from RenderHub, and I can't find anyway to thicken the fold. From what you've shown, I'd return Xiu Lin, but I got her for $4.73 using tokens & PC+ coupon. Also, I've never seen someone with eyebrows composed mostly of several long hairs that stick to the face.
Thanks, barbult, for sussing out the smooth skin issue. I didn't buy Fanny because I have so many Mousso G8's that I never use.
She's... ok. I'll keep her because I'm a Gen 9 completionist.
It's difficult to get good expressions, I'm not sure why that is
The make-up doesn't work for me at all
Same complaints I usually have about the gen 9 joints... how come some of the male characters seem to do better here - better correctives?
I don't know why I got a Mousso girl, I never use them. Had the same issues with the textures not loading. That PA's textures aren't to my personal taste, or don't work well with my workflow/lighting.
HD apart from the full body I believe. All defaults, although I do throw a bit of green in my lights for some minor red corrections and I swapped out the terrible eyebrows. Imgur inline images.
The artifacts on the tattoo just happened the once here, not sure what I did. Maybe an issue with HD vs non HD
With Fanny
With some core gen 8 girls - the textures have come a long way, but I probably lit this to flatter Xiu Lin
I have a romantic pic with Mr Khan coming, but it's taking forever to render.
Xiu Lin is okay... I like the figure better as a man than a woman, but wow it has some real Puss-in-Boots eyes. I had to tone them down for this picture, because otherwise he looked like a puppy that's just seen a tasty morsel on a plate...
And Xiu Lin's textures on Aroon (I forgot to adjust the irises in this one), who still looks so much like the actor So Ji-sub. If PAs are going to start making models based on real people, can I suggest Lee Dong-wook (and his epic hair), Wi Ha-joon and Jang Seung-jo? In fact, I'll be over here with a whole list...
This is so perfect. The eyes make it!
It's the Click n Render sets, they're nice and easy to use, but I've had heaps of characters they don't flatter. Depends how shiny and saturated the character texture is. From memory the Mousso characters render better under mututed realistic HDRI or very soft studio lights (I struggle to get them to work with other characters in my library)
They've been doing this for a looooong time already. I mean, there's a huge thread about characters looking like celebrities....
I know. I worded it badly, really, although a lot of those are more 'if you squint' and involve a few arguments. I mean more "incredibly recognisable Korean actors whose likenesses it'd be fun to own while feeling weird about actually using them in any sort of paid artwork."
I was going to skip both of these characters, but you make a very convincing argument.
Aaron looks great. I'm not sold on the new core character, though.
Found that a bit strange myself. Did you have the Xui HD installed before you loaded her? I was thinking it was caused because I downloaded Fanny first. Need to check that.
Mixed with a little something I have coming down the proverbial pipeline very soon! I wasn't actually trying to make her look like A.O.C., but there you have it.
Hi barbult. Mine loads fine with textures but I have the original version. Daz changed the folder structure after testing (they put the whole Fanny HD folder into Daz Originals folder) and the texture path got broken. I messaged justspitey about this and he'll post a fix if you dont want to wait for Daz.
Ugh!
Honestly, I think I like Xiu Lin much better as a guy. I'd been on the fence about getting her, but figured her skin would be handy if nothing else, but I do actually really like the face. Here I was fiddling around, made the face a bit rounder, added some asymmetry to the eyes and adjusted the nose a bit and accidentally made a whole historical drama main character.
I wouldn't mind, but this was supposed to be an experiment with Luthbel's G1 samurai outfit, not an accidental poster-boy moment.
Here is the character with the right path. Just drop the files in People/Genesis 9/Characters folder. Really sorry about the inconvinience.
The monster free version
I had that eye issue with other g9 characters as well, I thought it was because I'm still using an older version of daz. Doesn't bother me, applying the materials fixes it, but it's good to know where the issue comes from.
See, that's a great face! I hope you don't mind sharing a few dails so I can get something similar? Also the g9 thumb is terrible, wtf is going on there?