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  • Dimension-ZDimension-Z Posts: 352
    edited November 2016
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:

    I'm the Ondine guy, not the Gianni guy.

    I'm having better luck with the skin tone.  I just can't get the lips right.  They either go ultra glossy or black.  

    I selected "skin" in the surfaces section and clicked the NGS2 for Gen2 script.  

    I then selected the lips and applied the lip gloss script.

    When you load NGS 2 Script, it looks good on the lips? I have caution in my presets: DO NOT HAVE ANY SURFACE SELECTED!!

     

    Thnx

    D-Z

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  • cdpro_2831bbd990cdpro_2831bbd990 Posts: 1,430

    Hmmm...Well, let me try it again with no surfaces.

    I know it's probably a complicated answer.  But, why would you not have surfaces selected like when using any other shader preset?

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:

    Hmmm...Well, let me try it again with no surfaces.

    I know it's probably a complicated answer.  But, why would you not have surfaces selected like when using any other shader preset?

    I think this is a script that uses a shader. So the script does that process for you, which is why you don't need to select it. That's my guess.

  • Dimension-ZDimension-Z Posts: 352
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:

    Hmmm...Well, let me try it again with no surfaces.

    I know it's probably a complicated answer.  But, why would you not have surfaces selected like when using any other shader preset?

    You said you had lips selected, right? So you must not do it! Thats the way script works.
  • Dimension-ZDimension-Z Posts: 352
    outrider42 said:
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:

    Hmmm...Well, let me try it again with no surfaces.

    I know it's probably a complicated answer.  But, why would you not have surfaces selected like when using any other shader preset?

    I think this is a script that uses a shader. So the script does that process for you, which is why you don't need to select it. That's my guess.

    Exactly, thnx!
  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679

    Can this be installed manually? I prefer installing manually. I will NOT use Connect.

  • Dimension-ZDimension-Z Posts: 352
    edited November 2016
    outrider42 said:

    Can this be installed manually? I prefer installing manually. I will NOT use Connect.

    You mean via DIM? If so is better. Or via copy paste in the right places.
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  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    Dimension-Z said:
    outrider42 said:

    Can this be installed manually? I prefer installing manually. I will NOT use Connect.

     

    You mean via DIM? If so is better. Or via copy paste in the right places.

    Copy/paste is usually what I do. I can stomach a DIM download once in a while. 

    I bought yesterday. So'll be playing with it some today. 

  • Dimension-ZDimension-Z Posts: 352
    outrider42 said:
    Dimension-Z said:
    outrider42 said:

    Can this be installed manually? I prefer installing manually. I will NOT use Connect.

     

    You mean via DIM? If so is better. Or via copy paste in the right places.

    Copy/paste is usually what I do. I can stomach a DIM download once in a while. 

    I bought yesterday. So'll be playing with it some today. 

    I do it often too. Thnx a lot and have fun with rendering!
  • Melissa ConwayMelissa Conway Posts: 590

    This product ROCKS.

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  • Dimension-ZDimension-Z Posts: 352
    Melissa Conway said:

    This product ROCKS.

    One word...Excellent!
  • cdpro_2831bbd990cdpro_2831bbd990 Posts: 1,430

    Here is another render.  This time both are using NGS2 for G2.  The one on the left was applied under "Surfaces / Skin."  The one on your right I did not select any surfaces, just the Gen2.  The overall appearance is almost exactly the same except that the lips on the right one are not quite as glossy and show a bit more of the lip color.

    So, how do I reduce the gloss on the lips?

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  • cdpro_2831bbd990cdpro_2831bbd990 Posts: 1,430
    Dimension-Z said:
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:

    Hmmm...Well, let me try it again with no surfaces.

    I know it's probably a complicated answer.  But, why would you not have surfaces selected like when using any other shader preset?

     

    You said you had lips selected, right? So you must not do it! Thats the way script works.

    Got it...see my most recent example above.  The lips do look better, but still too glossy.

  • Dimension-ZDimension-Z Posts: 352
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:
    Dimension-Z said:
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:

    Hmmm...Well, let me try it again with no surfaces.

    I know it's probably a complicated answer.  But, why would you not have surfaces selected like when using any other shader preset?

     

    You said you had lips selected, right? So you must not do it! Thats the way script works.

    Got it...see my most recent example above.  The lips do look better, but still too glossy.

    Can you please show me a screenshot with your lips surface focused on Top Coat Values?

    Thnx

    D-Z

  • HoMartHoMart Posts: 480
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:

    Here is another render.  This time both are using NGS2 for G2.  The one on the left was applied under "Surfaces / Skin."  The one on your right I did not select any surfaces, just the Gen2.  The overall appearance is almost exactly the same except that the lips on the right one are not quite as glossy and show a bit more of the lip color.

    So, how do I reduce the gloss on the lips?

    did you select the Gen2 in the surfaces tab?

    If yes, dont do it - just select in viewport or scenetab.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,651
    edited November 2016

    It isn't lighting.

    Here  are the two Gianni skin images. It doesn't seem to matter which light I use. After the shader is applied, he is distinctly paler almost anemic. Since I tend to render men a lot, I want to preserve the same skin tone look, but use the shader. I am hoping for some suggestions on how to do that.  

    I have rendered these with ElianeCK's Face and body lights.

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  • cdpro_2831bbd990cdpro_2831bbd990 Posts: 1,430
    HoMart said:
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:

    Here is another render.  This time both are using NGS2 for G2.  The one on the left was applied under "Surfaces / Skin."  The one on your right I did not select any surfaces, just the Gen2.  The overall appearance is almost exactly the same except that the lips on the right one are not quite as glossy and show a bit more of the lip color.

    So, how do I reduce the gloss on the lips?

    did you select the Gen2 in the surfaces tab?

    If yes, dont do it - just select in viewport or scenetab.

    Nope, just selected in the Scene Tab.

  • Dimension-ZDimension-Z Posts: 352
    edited November 2016
    Serene Night said:

    It isn't lighting.

    Here  are the two Gianni skin images. It doesn't seem to matter which light I use. After the shader is applied, he is distinctly paler almost anemic. Since I tend to render men a lot, I want to preserve the same skin tone look, but use the shader. I am hoping for some suggestions on how to do that.  

    I have rendered these with ElianeCK's Face and body lights.

    Which light please, from A to F? Just want to check it.

    I guess A

     

    Thnx

    D-Z

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  • cdpro_2831bbd990cdpro_2831bbd990 Posts: 1,430
    Dimension-Z said:
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:
    Dimension-Z said:
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:

    Hmmm...Well, let me try it again with no surfaces.

    I know it's probably a complicated answer.  But, why would you not have surfaces selected like when using any other shader preset?

     

    You said you had lips selected, right? So you must not do it! Thats the way script works.

    Got it...see my most recent example above.  The lips do look better, but still too glossy.

    Can you please show me a screenshot with your lips surface focused on Top Coat Values?

    Thnx

    D-Z

    Here are my Top Coat Settings.  I didn't alter anything before I loaded NGS2

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  • Dimension-ZDimension-Z Posts: 352
    edited November 2016
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:
    Dimension-Z said:
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:
    Dimension-Z said:
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:

    Hmmm...Well, let me try it again with no surfaces.

    I know it's probably a complicated answer.  But, why would you not have surfaces selected like when using any other shader preset?

     

    You said you had lips selected, right? So you must not do it! Thats the way script works.

    Got it...see my most recent example above.  The lips do look better, but still too glossy.

    Can you please show me a screenshot with your lips surface focused on Top Coat Values?

    Thnx

    D-Z

    Here are my Top Coat Settings.  I didn't alter anything before I loaded NGS2

    Top Coat Weight, Color, and 0 have different maps or no maps than my shader provides.

     

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,651

    yes. the first one A. 

  • cdpro_2831bbd990cdpro_2831bbd990 Posts: 1,430
    Dimension-Z said:
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:
    Dimension-Z said:
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:
    Dimension-Z said:
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:

    Hmmm...Well, let me try it again with no surfaces.

    I know it's probably a complicated answer.  But, why would you not have surfaces selected like when using any other shader preset?

     

    You said you had lips selected, right? So you must not do it! Thats the way script works.

    Got it...see my most recent example above.  The lips do look better, but still too glossy.

    Can you please show me a screenshot with your lips surface focused on Top Coat Values?

    Thnx

    D-Z

    Here are my Top Coat Settings.  I didn't alter anything before I loaded NGS2

    Top Coat Weight, Color, and 0 have different maps or no maps than my shader provides.

     

    I didn't change them.  What should they be?

  • ANenaStudiosANenaStudios Posts: 29

    I love this product  and want it to look like the promos, how can I get smoother skin, its coming out blotchy; thanks.

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  • Dimension-ZDimension-Z Posts: 352
    Serene Night said:

    yes. the first one A. 

    Preset A has Cyan Spot Light and 10000 Light Temperature. Do you still believe you are ok with your previous result?

     

    Thnx

    D-Z

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,651
    Dimension-Z said:
    Serene Night said:

    yes. the first one A. 

    Preset A has Cyan Spot Light and 10000 Light Temperature. Do you still believe you are ok with your previous result?

     

    Thnx

    D-Z

    I'm not sure what you are asking.

    But like I said, it  doesn't matter which lights I use, the product is changing Gianni's skin pale. Even if I just use default camera with headlamp- skin is very pale.

     

  • Dimension-ZDimension-Z Posts: 352
    edited November 2016
    Serene Night said:
    Dimension-Z said:
    Serene Night said:

    yes. the first one A. 

    Preset A has Cyan Spot Light and 10000 Light Temperature. Do you still believe you are ok with your previous result?

     

    Thnx

    D-Z

    I'm not sure what you are asking.

    But like I said, it  doesn't matter which lights I use, the product is changing Gianni's skin pale. Even if I just use default camera with headlamp- skin is very pale.

     

    I just wanna say that light preset A is a very Cool lighting! So you cant get a very redish skin with such a cool light. Although Gianni's diffuse maps are not so warm by default.

    But maybe you need to edit a little the glossy color on my shader. Less cyan. Thats all.

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  • Dimension-ZDimension-Z Posts: 352
    edited November 2016
    Serene Night said:
    Dimension-Z said:
    Serene Night said:

    yes. the first one A. 

    Preset A has Cyan Spot Light and 10000 Light Temperature. Do you still believe you are ok with your previous result?

     

    Thnx

    D-Z

    I'm not sure what you are asking.

    But like I said, it  doesn't matter which lights I use, the product is changing Gianni's skin pale. Even if I just use default camera with headlamp- skin is very pale.

     

    Just Look my renders:

    1. Check the diffuse and the render

    2. Check the A Light changed to 6500K with White Color (Natural Light)

    Do you see any difference beetween diffuse map & render?

    So I think skin color depends of the light color

    But as I said you can play a bit with glossy color (less cyan), just set first clossy color value from 0.35 to 0.50 and see the difference.

     

    P.S.

    I hide B Point Light, doesnt matter because it has cyan color too.

    And dont take that as an attack. I'm trying to help you.

    Thnx

    D-Z

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  • DustRiderDustRider Posts: 2,744
    Melissa Conway said:

    This product ROCKS.

    Outstanding render Melissa! I'm a bit on the fence about this product, but this render may have pushed me over the edge!

  • HoMartHoMart Posts: 480
    edited November 2016
    Dimension-Z said:
    Serene Night said:
    Dimension-Z said:
    Serene Night said:

    yes. the first one A. 

    Preset A has Cyan Spot Light and 10000 Light Temperature. Do you still believe you are ok with your previous result?

     

    Thnx

    D-Z

    I'm not sure what you are asking.

    But like I said, it  doesn't matter which lights I use, the product is changing Gianni's skin pale. Even if I just use default camera with headlamp- skin is very pale.

     

    Just Look my renders:

    1. Check the diffuse and the render

    2. Check the A Light changed to 6500K with White Color (Natural Light)

    Do you see any difference beetween diffuse map & render?

    So I think skin color depends of the light color

    But as I said you can play a bit with glossy color (less cyan), just set first clossy color value from 0.35 to 0.50 and see the difference.

     

    P.S.

    I hide B Point Light, doesnt matter because it has cyan color too.

    And dont take that as an attack. I'm trying to help you.

    Thnx

    D-Z

    wanted to try Gianni too

    the 4 images all have the same lights as with the female renders before (just changed the character in the scene)

    looks like male characters getting more pale when using N.G.S.2

    the renders are Gianni default iray skin, Gianni with N.G.S.2 and for comparison I suited Gianni in Ivans skin - again default and with N.G.S.2

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  • Dimension-ZDimension-Z Posts: 352
    HoMart said:
    Dimension-Z said:
    Serene Night said:
    Dimension-Z said:
    Serene Night said:

    yes. the first one A. 

    Preset A has Cyan Spot Light and 10000 Light Temperature. Do you still believe you are ok with your previous result?

     

    Thnx

    D-Z

    I'm not sure what you are asking.

    But like I said, it  doesn't matter which lights I use, the product is changing Gianni's skin pale. Even if I just use default camera with headlamp- skin is very pale.

     

    Just Look my renders:

    1. Check the diffuse and the render

    2. Check the A Light changed to 6500K with White Color (Natural Light)

    Do you see any difference beetween diffuse map & render?

    So I think skin color depends of the light color

    But as I said you can play a bit with glossy color (less cyan), just set first clossy color value from 0.35 to 0.50 and see the difference.

     

    P.S.

    I hide B Point Light, doesnt matter because it has cyan color too.

    And dont take that as an attack. I'm trying to help you.

    Thnx

    D-Z

    wanted to try Gianni too

    the 4 images all have the same lights as with the female renders before (just changed the character in the scene)

    looks like male characters getting more pale when using N.G.S.2

    the renders are Gianni default iray skin, Gianni with N.G.S.2 and for comparison I suited Gianni in Ivans skin - again default and with N.G.S.2

    OK, do not get me wrong but let's get more serious:

    One Render - 2 Same Figures - Left with Default Shader - Right with NGS 2 (I dont mind if its Gianni or any other character)

    Which Figure is closer to the diffuse map color?

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