Dinosaurs and Kaiju
TeddyBlackBear
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Hi fellow daz studio colleagues its been A long time but I was wondering will there be any new dinosaur models with the recent new dinosaur discoveries from around the world and will there be any new kaiju mondels from valander or compatible with the daz dragon 3.
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Dinoraul is the dino guy over at rendo and his models work pretty well in DS. I doubt there is that much of a market for newer models, but I'd be interested in them also.
What recent discoveries are we talking about???
I'd think one of the most important on a structural level is the discovery that Spinosaurus may have been built more like a crocodile than a T-Rex.
Otherwise... conforming feathers, maybe?
Not sure which idea is scarier...
Wasn't someone doing some LAMH sets to put feathers on some of the existing Dinos? The thing about paleontolgy is that the rules get re-written every ten years, so the things that were considered perfectly accurate just a few years ago are now glaringly wrong. I really loved how Jurassic World handled the issue, with the characters in the movie "admitting" that their dinosaurs weren't really accurate because they'd had to make so many substitutions for corrupted bits of DNA.
EDIT: But on the plus side, at least the Brontosaurus is a real dinosaur again! Turns out that the old "mistake" that misidentified Apatosaurus wasn't a mistake or misidentification at all.
T-Rex I've come to think must of been a scavenger with those short arms and very awkward mobility. Definiately a giant crocodile would be scarier and more dificult to get away from.
...they found out that the guy who named BOTH Apatosaurus and Brontosaurus was right, after all.
Alessandro_AM one of the guys behind look at my hair and who's created a lot of animals here said one of his upcoming projects will be new dinosaurs
wouldn't mind some new godzilla inspired type creatures too
Despite the fact that the original find had the wrong skull from an entirely different source attached. :( But for the moment, it's an easy way to tell who the REAL uber dinosaur fans are, as most resources still incorrectly repeat the Apatosaurus story.
Still waiting for Pluto to become a planet again.
There's nothing to indicate that T-Rex was awkward at all, and the recent discovery of a T-rex tooth healed inside a Hadrosaur bone is pretty good evidence that T-Rexs hunted live prey at least part of the time. They also probably scavenged as well, just as lions do. When you're that big, you eat everything you can.
And on that subject, here's one of my favoite installments of What If?, in which the number of Tyranosaurs that could be supported by eating the population of New York City is firmly established.
http://what-if.xkcd.com/78/
Obviously, a number of assumptions have to made, but if the calculations are reasonably "on the money", 80 McDonald's hamburgers per day is surprisingly "modest'" for the real life dragon that is the T-Rex. Equated like that, they don't seem so terrifying. Now, getting them to eat the hamburgers instead one's friend is another matter, but the caloric numbers themselves are oddly "comforting".
Sincerely,
Bill
Not so conforting for humans eating the burgers, though.
Definitely check out DinoRaul's models on Renderosity. He's about the best of the small pool of dinosaur modelers (although Swidhelm did a great Tyrannosaur with a tigerstriped patten). The market for dinosaurs whose modeling is accurate is even smaller than the small market for ANY dinosaurs, unfortunately. I've asked about these things before to no avail and so have other people. I'd love to see a fully-featured raptor, because what's available now is (mostly) the scaly types that were mainstream thought back in 1995 or thereabouts.
As for kaiju, there are some low-poly older freebies out there if you look hard enough. Scott Ayers has several Godzilla variations for free, for example. There are a few scattered villains from the Gamera series on the net too.
Personally, I'd love to see models that went totally Ray Harryhausen-style old-school with upright standing T-Rexes, tail-dragging Brontos, and species that have since been written out such as Antrodemus, Trachodon, etc. But that's a pipe dream.
Or for the McD employee who has the task of asking "Do you want fries with thaaaaarrrrrrgggggaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!"
I'd think you could get the trachodon by combining morphs from the Hadrosaur expansion pack http://www.daz3d.com/hadrosaur-expansion-pack
Kaiju-wise, besides Godzilla and Gamera, you can find some of the classic Ultra-monsters and some of the monsters from the various sentai shows. A few can be found on ShareCG, but you have to comb the Japanese sites to find a lot of them.
either would make me pee my pants in a close encounter, LOL
While new dino models would be nice, I am pretty happy with what I have (game models from the dino games I play also), but could use some nice primordial environments more!
I'm developing several Polymorph base shapes, one of this is for the Theropoda suborder, so basically most of bipedal dinosaurs like T-Rex, all of the raptors and and and... they will be feathered too!
I cannot wait to see them! I recently saw a museum exhibit full of restorations of theropods and kept wishing that there were DAZ models with the same wild feathering. Thank you for woking on this project!
I'm excited by a bunch of stuff AM is working on! Infinito 2 is a ways off, LAMH 2, cats and dogs, now dinosaurs... oh my
This is great news! Count me in!
I'd hope any fur/feathers for dinosaurs are optional. I understand that some (and I must stress some) have been found with evidence of them, but I've yet to see any artistic representations where it doesn't look... Wrong. :) If I get any dinosaur models, I'd want to be able to portray them all with the classic reptilian appearance.
Agreed. not a feather fan on my dinos also. Now if AM comes out with new Phorusrhacids (terror birds), then I am cool with the feathers, LOL.
I'd be astonished if feathers weren't optional. Heck, you can turn off fur on just about every AM animal, too, so hey.
Oh yes, they will be indeed optional.
I'm sort of the opposite. I want my dinosaurs to be as realistic as possible. So, for those dinosaurs currently believed to have feathers (and only those dinosaurs) then I want the feathers as they are believed to existed.
Relevant:
http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/dinosaurs
Perfect.
Funny, you would think someone would have modeled and released such, just for the sake of Saturday matinee nostalgia, but all the T-Rexes and similar carnivores lean more towards the discoveries of the last 30 odd years.
For shiggles, I took Scott-A's free T-Rex and forced it as best I could into the (admittedly inaccurate) "classic" upright stance for a lil "Land of the Lost" tribute. I gave it a purposely mottled and lumpy procedural surface to suggest it was cast in foam rubber.just like the stop motion animation puppets Wah Chang supplied for the 1970s Saturday morning science fantasy series by Sid and Marty Krofft.
Sincerely,
Bill
That looks surprisingly good, and is very close to what I envisioned. That's the sort of foam-rubbery stop-motion dinosaur that I was thinking of. He'd look right at home getting beat up by a Genesis gorilla standing in for a Willis O'Brien King Kong. Batwinged pterodactyls would also be on my wishlist of scientifically inaccurate yet Hollywood approved dinosaurs.
LOTL had amazingly good effects and decent scripts for a low-budget TV show aimed squarely at kids. I was disappointed that the live-action film from a couple years ago went the parody route. I'm also surprised no one has created a Sleestak character for Genesis.
The number of dino models in general is surprisingly small, so I can only guess that they simply don't sell well enough for the amount of labor required. Even DinoRaul seems to have switched to mostly doing plants, with a new prehistoric beastie every couple of months or so. Then again, the number of animal models in general is really low and DAZ seems to be in no rush to update the badly outdated Mil Dog and Cat.
It was a good show for it's time, especially with all the things that went on behind the scenes... read Kathy "Holly Marshall" Coleman's autobiography Lost Girl for the dirt. As to the lack of a figure, I seem to remember a Sleestak for poser that popped up a number of years ago, but a search shows nothing under that name.
LOL! Beautifully done!