The best comp for doing 3D art

sg1dr

I am looking to build my own comp from scratch as i want it to be more orientated to doing 3D art. Could people give me suddestions as to what they would include in suche a computer. Maybe break things down into a No Limits Comp, a average budget comp and a cheap and chearfull comp. 

BeeMKay

I can't really help you with that task, but you might want to use google to search the forum. There were a couple of threads earlier on about various systems and how good or bad they are.

It also depends on if you want to use DS Iray, or are thinking about also using other software, like Lightwave, etc. What works great for one might give you slow and crawlinge renders in the other.

If you want a real "top notch" Iray render system, here's the recommendation from the DAZ people, though of course no "names":

https://helpdaz.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/207530513-System-Recommendations-for-DAZ-Studio-4-

kitakoredaz

One thing, I really feel these days, Video  ram 4 GB is not enough for usuall iray render ,  when  render 2  actor in big architecture.

I think video card  6 GB is almost min memory to paly with daz scene and iray without many stress,,, 

(though I believed 6 gb seems plenty enogh  of my usuall render before,,, but actually you can easy over 6gb I feel)

 

If I can return last year,, I must get titan X , though I need SLI for game play, then not disappointed my decision,

but about daz studio,, titan X is best and only  answer . I think. 

almahiedra

BeeMKay said:

I can't really help you with that task, but you might want to use google to search the forum. There were a couple of threads earlier on about various systems and how good or bad they are.

It also depends on if you want to use DS Iray, or are thinking about also using other software, like Lightwave, etc. What works great for one might give you slow and crawlinge renders in the other.

If you want a real "top notch" Iray render system, here's the recommendation from the DAZ people, though of course no "names":

https://helpdaz.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/207530513-System-Recommendations-for-DAZ-Studio-4-

 

DAZ says:

A spinning disk (regular hard-drive) is quite a bit slower than an SSD so I would recommend getting a 520GB or 1TB SSD to host your DAZ content and scene files on

Does something like this worth?  the incoming Samsung 960 Pro with 2TB and 3500/2100  MBs for R/W at 1200/1300 US$

http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/960pro.html

Is 2TB enough space for a big daz/poser content collection? Or is it better slower and bigger like a WD black 4 TB or a seagate Barracuda Pro?

https://www.wdc.com/products/internal-storage/wd-black-desktop.html#WD5001FZWX

http://www.seagate.com/internal-hard-drives/barracuda/

All this options have 5 years warranty.

BeeMKay

I can confirm about the faster loading times if you use SSD. While I haven't an SSD for my content, I used a HDD for my content before, and often got the problem of "empty categories". The content would show up again a while later, though. Also, opening content took a while. I have an HSDD now, which caches often used content on the SSD part of the drive, and both, loading times and "empty categories" has vastly improved. It would probably become even better with a full SSD, but that's not something I can afford.

For the system software and DS, I have installed them on a 250GB SSD drive, and I have a smaller 120GB SSD that I use exclusively for render temp/cache.

Drive size... define "big" Poser/DAZ collection. Most collections probably won't get above 2TB, and there's always the question if you really need to have all the content on a really fast drive at all the time. If it's worth to throw that much money at a large SSD of course depends on your needs regarding content.

You might find this videos interesting:

 

mikethetiger

The main point is video card. It's about number of CUDA cores, it's memory 6gb+. Ram high poly meshes needs at list 16 better 32 gb ram.

 

almahiedra

BeeMKay said:

I can confirm about the faster loading times if you use SSD. While I haven't an SSD for my content, I used a HDD for my content before, and often got the problem of "empty categories". The content would show up again a while later, though. Also, opening content took a while. I have an HSDD now, which caches often used content on the SSD part of the drive, and both, loading times and "empty categories" has vastly improved. It would probably become even better with a full SSD, but that's not something I can afford.

For the system software and DS, I have installed them on a 250GB SSD drive, and I have a smaller 120GB SSD that I use exclusively for render temp/cache.

Drive size... define "big" Poser/DAZ collection. Most collections probably won't get above 2TB, and there's always the question if you really need to have all the content on a really fast drive at all the time. If it's worth to throw that much money at a large SSD of course depends on your needs regarding content.

You might find this videos interesting:

 

Thanks for video and answer.

Big is "the more big library for a poser/daz-aholics"

Silver Dolphin

Cheap would be an AMD A10 system with built in video that can run your monitors and with enough video card slots for the either Nvidia 1070 or 1060 you will use for iray. The more expensive route would be intel.

AndyS

Hi,

I really can comfirm the statement of "mikethetiger". GPU memory is most important if you don't want to wait for your photorealistcally detailed render results for an eternity.
To render this picture needed over 20GB ram. As far as I read over here, it is not possible to accumulate GPU-ram by multiple graphic cards.

Rendering with iRay has the need of high poly definitions of some props, not only the characters. Either your props itself have a high poly mesh or you need to apply some higher SubD. This is the big disadvantage of iRay and the price you have pay for photorealism.

 

Rodrij

Daz Uses a lot of ram in bigger scenes (5 characters with clothes props furniture etc) so I would go for 24gb at a minimum and that is without running anything else. As for Video cards you can load up 99% of scenes with 8gb Vram card which the 1070 and 1080 have. Processor won't be as important for GPU rendering, most current or last gen processor will do.