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Looking for Scottish Thistle

3Ddreamer3Ddreamer Posts: 1,300
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I have a render in mind but I need a Thistle in the foreground. Goes under various names: Scottish Thistle, Common Thistle, Bull Thistle, Spear Thistle - genus Cirsium Vulgare. I have been searching and the closest I am finding are spindly things that don't match what I am after. Anyone know where I can find one?

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,219

    Merlins wild borders has one

    http://www.daz3d.com/wild-borders

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    CG trader have one, in obj format, for $13 and some change    https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/thistle

    https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/plant-tree/other/flowering-thistle-weed

     

  • 3Ddreamer3Ddreamer Posts: 1,300

    Thanks ToeJam and Chohole - I have Wild Borders and just checked the thistle, unfortunately it is too low poly for my foreground. And I had found those on cgtrader (and another site with 10 euro ones) the heads aren't quite big enough, even if I did re-colour the flower. They would be my last resort if nothing else turns up.

     

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001

    The only one I know of that's close is this one from Evermotion...

    http://www.evermotion.org/shop/show_product/cirsium-vulgare-072-am124/9443

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,737

    Lisa's Botanicals has a Globe Thistle over at Hivewire: http://hivewire3d.com/globe-thistle.html

  • 3Ddreamer3Ddreamer Posts: 1,300

    Thanks mjc1016 - That is the other fall back I have, but both that and the cgtrader ones are too delicate for this thug :-) Thanks Charlie but that is the wrong species - I did check out Lisa's B and Xfrog when I started looking.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    3Ddreamer said:

    Thanks mjc1016 - That is the other fall back I have, but both that and the cgtrader ones are too delicate for this thug :-) Thanks Charlie but that is the wrong species - I did check out Lisa's B and Xfrog when I started looking.

    The cgtrader ones are the Evermotion ones...there are several in the various Evermotion sets.

    In the 'full' set (148 plants in all) there are 3 different Cirsiums and 3 Onopordums...each are around $14.  I'm not sure how much 'sturdier' you'll find...but you can scale it some.

  • 3Ddreamer3Ddreamer Posts: 1,300
    mjc1016 said:
    3Ddreamer said:

    Thanks mjc1016 - That is the other fall back I have, but both that and the cgtrader ones are too delicate for this thug :-) Thanks Charlie but that is the wrong species - I did check out Lisa's B and Xfrog when I started looking.

    The cgtrader ones are the Evermotion ones...there are several in the various Evermotion sets.

    In the 'full' set (148 plants in all) there are 3 different Cirsiums and 3 Onopordums...each are around $14.  I'm not sure how much 'sturdier' you'll find...but you can scale it some.

    Thanks I think the Flowering one from cgtrader/Evermotion is the best one so far, hadn't see the full set, so I'll have to check that out but I think I have seen the 3 Cirsiums individually. Never thought it would be so hard to find such a common weed :-) If all else fails I might have to make billboards or add in post.

    Thanks everyone for your help.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,219

    you could probably make the Wild boarders one more detailed using LAMH

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,219

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,219

    a nice CC image of one you could edit

  • 3Ddreamer3Ddreamer Posts: 1,300

    Thanks ToeJam it is a nice picture. If it wasn't the wrong time of year I could just go out and take a picture of some :-)  Looks like mjc is onto something

    https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/plant-tree/grass/green-weed-with-purple-flowers

    might work, not as tall as I envisaged so some scaling - hope the flowers will scale separate to the leaves, but it is the best so far.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,219

    yeah are weeds here in Adelaide Australia, I have to spray with roundup as grow in gravelled areas by my driveway

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    ToeJam said:

    yeah are weeds here in Adelaide Australia, I have to spray with roundup as grow in gravelled areas by my driveway

    Careful...they have been known grow through concrete...AND are just damn hard to kill, short of burning them.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited October 2016

    And I guess that you need this for an image to be finished by Tuesday?

    mjc1016 said:
    ToeJam said:

    yeah are weeds here in Adelaide Australia, I have to spray with roundup as grow in gravelled areas by my driveway

    Careful...they have been known grow through concrete...AND are just damn hard to kill, short of burning them.

    You must have a special variety out there in the colonies.  The home grown British and Scottish thistles are much more sedate.  Persistant;  but not thugs.

    I used to grow a variety commonly known as milk thistle, mostly because I loved it's latin name.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,219

    was thinking, how hard is this?

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  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    Chohole said:

    And I guess that you need this for an image to be finished by Tuesday?

    mjc1016 said:
    ToeJam said:

    yeah are weeds here in Adelaide Australia, I have to spray with roundup as grow in gravelled areas by my driveway

    Careful...they have been known grow through concrete...AND are just damn hard to kill, short of burning them.

    You must have a special variety out there in the colonies.  The home grown British and Scottish thistles are much more sedate.  Persistant;  but not thugs.

    I used to grow a variety commonly known as milk thistle, mostly because I loved it's latin name.

    Maybe it's just the local conditions...but thistle (the Onopordum variety) are nearly as hard to kill as poison ivy...repeated mowing will keep them under control.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited October 2016
    mjc1016 said:
    Chohole said:

    And I guess that you need this for an image to be finished by Tuesday?

    mjc1016 said:
    ToeJam said:

    yeah are weeds here in Adelaide Australia, I have to spray with roundup as grow in gravelled areas by my driveway

    Careful...they have been known grow through concrete...AND are just damn hard to kill, short of burning them.

    You must have a special variety out there in the colonies.  The home grown British and Scottish thistles are much more sedate.  Persistant;  but not thugs.

    I used to grow a variety commonly known as milk thistle, mostly because I loved it's latin name.

    Maybe it's just the local conditions...but thistle (the Onopordum variety) are nearly as hard to kill as poison ivy...repeated mowing will keep them under control.

    Hmm   between 1.7 and 2.5 metres tall.  and doesn't actually grow in Scotland ( well certainly not with any degree of success),  that is not what I would actually call a Scotch Thistle.

    Joking really, as this does tend to be the one used on heraldry,  but it isn't the one I am familiar with as a normal thistle, ie weed. 

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,219
    edited October 2016

    Ok I made one in Carrara, is not great though but Oh well had fun

    https://www.sharecg.com/v/86428/view/5/3D-Model/Scottish-Thistle

     

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  • 3Ddreamer3Ddreamer Posts: 1,300

    LOL Glad this inspired you to make one ;-)

    This is the 'green weed with purple flowers' from above. two copies of the Obj (could probably use instances but I was testing), one scaled larger and its leaves hidden - still tweaking the iray surfaces.

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,131

    The one the Aussies are complaining about is much more likely to be Canadian Thistle. It looks nearly like that Scottish Thistle but is a scourge in most places that graze lots of beef cattle and have imported fodder. Canadian Thistle is pretty and blooms in horse country 1st half of summer if I remember right.

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