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Why do I have bad quality clothes?

foodplus013foodplus013 Posts: 23
in Daz Studio Discussion

Hello,

I have a question:

I bought clothes for Genesis 3 Female but why  I can not get same the rendering as the picture?

Here is the photo of the clothes I bought

 

 

 

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  • areg5areg5 Posts: 617

    What does your render look like?

  • foodplus013foodplus013 Posts: 23

    Thank you

    Here is my render: (the color and the shine is not the same)

     

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  • 3WC3WC Posts: 1,113
    foodplus013 said:

    Thank you

    Here is my render: (the color and the shine is not the same)

     

    Is that even a render or just a screenshot of the preview?

  • foodplus013foodplus013 Posts: 23
    wwes said:

    Is that even a render or just a screenshot of the preview?

    Yes, the screenshot and the render in Daz studio is the same

  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,770
    edited December 2016

    The picture you posted appears to be a screenshot of your viewport, not a render. The finished render won't look like that.

    Are you rendering in 3delight or Iray? The promo pic indicates it was rendered in Iray, and the product may only be designed for it.

    Rendering in the engine the product was designed for makes a huge difference. So does lighting, especially if the product is designed for both.

     

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  • areg5areg5 Posts: 617
    Llynara said:

    The picture you posted appears to be a screenshot of your viewport, not a render. The finished render won't look like that.

    Are you rendering in 3delight or Iray? The promo pic indicates it was rendered in Iray, and the product may only be designed for it.

    Rendering in the engine the product was designed for makes a huge difference. So does lighting, especially if the product is designed for both.

     

    agreed.  Looks like a screenshot of the viewport.  Render in Iray and see what it looks like.

  • foodplus013foodplus013 Posts: 23
    edited December 2016

    I am sorry because i am beginner ..

    How do I have to make a render and not a screenshot?

    And how do I have to do for have the same render as the picture below?

    (Even if I click on the folder Iray I get the same thing ..)

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  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,644

    Hello!  I have a series of tutorials for beginners in Daz Studio!  Here's a relevant one:

  • areg5areg5 Posts: 617

    We were all beginners once.  First off, for an Iray render, it's best to use your video card if it's an nvidia.  Go to render settiings, advanced, and make sure you have chosed to render with Iray under Engine.  Then make sure your video card is checked.Then hit the render tab.

  • foodplus013foodplus013 Posts: 23

    Thank you..


    Here's what I have in render setting (see photo).

    Name graphics card: ATI mobility Radeon HD 4200

    Total memory: 1787 MB

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  • ShelLuserShelLuser Posts: 749
    edited December 2016
    foodplus013 said:

    Name graphics card: ATI mobility Radeon HD 4200

    Total memory: 1787 MB

    That might be a little low on resources, but you should still be able to get some nice pictures going. Now, I do suggest that you take some time to check up on the Daz userguide because it can be a good way to get started. But to give you a rough head on start...  Please note: this is all very basic stuff. I can't help think that some are overcomplicating things a little bit so here's a very broad approach:

    • Load the figure you showed above (I assume you saved it?) or simply start DS and load the figure + clothing again.
    • Now you're in the viewport; this is where you set up your scene. But the final image will be rendered. In other words: carefully calculated by your computer.
    • Click on the 'Render' menu option and select "Render settings".
    • Expand the window a bit (if needed), and start by making sure that your engine is 3Delight. I know what people said about IRay above, but let's start simple for now.
    • Click on "General" and make sure that the first option on the right ("Dimension preset") says "Active viewport".
    • Now click the "Render" button in the top right corner.

    Now your scene will be rendered, and it'll probably take a while. Daz Studio will calculate the whole image and build it with all the textures and (optional) lighting. But even if you didn't use any light sources yet then I think you'll most likely will already see a drastic change between the image you had in the viewport and the actual render.

    That's basically where to start.

    Hope this gave some ideas.

    Post edited by ShelLuser on
  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    edited December 2016
    foodplus013 said:

    Thank you..


    Here's what I have in render setting (see photo).

    Name graphics card: ATI mobility Radeon HD 4200

    Total memory: 1787 MB

    Iray is an NVidia product for use with NVidia graphics cards. Unless there have been developments I'm not aware of, it won't work with an ATI Radeon.  Alternatively you can use 3Delight which should work for you.

    EDIT: just noticed that you have very little system RAM so you might have problems there too.

    I would really recommend working through some of Sicklyield's tutorials to get you started. 

    Post edited by marble on
  • foodplus013foodplus013 Posts: 23
    edited December 2016

    Thank you I understand better thanks to you ..

    After a long wait of the render, he proposes to me to save the image in my computer, so I saved the photo.

    But i want the render to be in the figure and the scene and not in an image that I have to save.

    Can you explain to me?

    Here is the render with NVIDIA Iray (see photo)

    Thank you

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  • Thomas WindarThomas Windar Posts: 272

    In your viewport there should be draw options. You can check Iray Preview in there and your Viewport window will show the model rendered in Iray. (The image attached should have a red checkbox around the option.

    BE AWARE - The Iray preview will seriously slow down your viewport, especially that you have no Nvidia cards. Your viewport will probably stop for a moment to perform some calculations and then you will see a very grainy image that will get better with each moment. Moving the camera will make it grainy again as it recalculates. (This is very resource intensive - expect your PC to slow down during the preview mode)
    This is NORMAL - you need a really good PC to run real-time graphics like that.

     

    Also - just in case I will mention this:

    In 3D graphics, the model you have in your Viewport is "toned down" on details to make it easier to work on it. That's why, once you add the right clothes and pose your model and position your camera at the right angle - you render the image and save it.
    The Render process is basically like taking a photo of the object - but in HD detail.

    Someone else can probably explain this better than me...
     

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  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    marble said:
    foodplus013 said:

    Thank you..


    Here's what I have in render setting (see photo).

    Name graphics card: ATI mobility Radeon HD 4200

    Total memory: 1787 MB

    Iray is an NVidia product for use with NVidia graphics cards. Unless there have been developments I'm not aware of, it won't work with an ATI Radeon.  Alternatively you can use 3Delight which should work for you.

    EDIT: just noticed that you have very little system RAM so you might have problems there too.

    I would really recommend working through some of Sicklyield's tutorials to get you started. 

    Iray will not work in GPU mode with a non-Nvidia video card.  It will run in CPU mode.  

    In the screenshot posted you can see this...there is no video card to select, but CPU IS selected.

    Granted it will be slower in CPU mode, but it will work.

  • food.plus13food.plus13 Posts: 133

    Thank you for the explanations, but I think I do not understand.

    First of all I have a question:

    The render is to have pictures only?

  • foodplus013foodplus013 Posts: 23

    Hello

    Can anyone answer my question?

    The render is to have pictures only?

  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,493
    foodplus013 said:

    Hello

    Can anyone answer my question?

    The render is to have pictures only?

    A render is a picture; what are you trying to create?

  • foodplus013foodplus013 Posts: 23

    I wanted the render to be on the figure (genesis 3) so that I could do a rotation with the camera  with the render Iray (for see the render in 3d)

    It's possible?

  • Theme3DTheme3D Posts: 27

    Yes, render is the function that will turn yout scenes into a picture.

  • foodplus013foodplus013 Posts: 23

    So it's not possible to do what I want?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,537
    foodplus013 said:

    I wanted the render to be on the figure (genesis 3) so that I could do a rotation with the camera  with the render Iray (for see the render in 3d)

    It's possible?

    what you need to do is render a series of images with a camera circling it.

    the easiest way to do this is parent a camera to a null and rotate that a

    along the timeline.

    Those images can then be used to make an animated gif, a video or a flash image the last can be interactive where your rotate it.

    DAZ studio is not a game where you watch and play stuff in realtime, rather it is a render studio where you construct scenes to render images, those images can then be used in art, videos etc.

  • cm152335cm152335 Posts: 421
    edited December 2016
    foodplus013 said:
    wwes said:

    Is that even a render or just a screenshot of the preview?

    Yes, the screenshot and the render in Daz studio is the same

    note:

    - in render the floor is transparent! (not visible)

    try real render, but please, INPUT AT LEAST "1 SPOT" TARGET AT YOUR VIEW

    your screen save have NO LIGHT, try two spot, one with Raytracing
    play arround with different light setup, manualy or predefinned light 


    - as for the defibnition of "RENDER" is

    take a shot of what you see or take a "PHOTO"
    remember, animation is 25-30 pictures per second
     

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,537

    that said, while this is not what DAZ studio is meant for

    I can actually do what you want with my hardware in the viewport

    a Nvidia 980ti graphics card and 16GB of RAM

    there is no way you could with your specs

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    the3Ddigit said:
    foodplus013 said:

    I wanted the render to be on the figure (genesis 3) so that I could do a rotation with the camera  with the render Iray (for see the render in 3d)

    It's possible?

    what you need to do is render a series of images with a camera circling it.

    the easiest way to do this is parent a camera to a null and rotate that a

    along the timeline.

    Those images can then be used to make an animated gif, a video or a flash image the last can be interactive where your rotate it.

    DAZ studio is not a game where you watch and play stuff in realtime, rather it is a render studio where you construct scenes to render images, those images can then be used in art, videos etc.

    The Beta version of DS has a 360 degree camera option, if I remember correctly. But it is true that Studio renders images, and probably not what the OP was imagening it would be.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,537
    BeeMKay said:
    the3Ddigit said:
    foodplus013 said:

    I wanted the render to be on the figure (genesis 3) so that I could do a rotation with the camera  with the render Iray (for see the render in 3d)

    It's possible?

    what you need to do is render a series of images with a camera circling it.

    the easiest way to do this is parent a camera to a null and rotate that a

    along the timeline.

    Those images can then be used to make an animated gif, a video or a flash image the last can be interactive where your rotate it.

    DAZ studio is not a game where you watch and play stuff in realtime, rather it is a render studio where you construct scenes to render images, those images can then be used in art, videos etc.

    The Beta version of DS has a 360 degree camera option, if I remember correctly. But it is true that Studio renders images, and probably not what the OP was imagening it would be.

    I would say they want a dress up game coming from the video gaming culture.

    it is indeed used by many to do dolly dressups (I am guilty as charged) just not instant interactive ones like a video game.

  • foodplus013foodplus013 Posts: 23

    Thank you

    the3Ddigit, You are sure that so I buy this Nvidia 980ti graphics card I could have the render Iray and at the same time turn around genesis?

    The 16GB of RAM is for the graphics card or the computer?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,537
    foodplus013 said:

    Thank you

    the3Ddigit, You are sure that so I buy this Nvidia 980ti graphics card I could have the render Iray and at the same time turn around genesis?

    The 16GB of RAM is for the graphics card or the computer?

    my RAM memory on computer and I think you really have to know what you are actually wanting to do as that is quite an investment to just preview a figure in iray

    I am not sure you really understand what you want to use DAZ studio for and what it is.

  • foodplus013foodplus013 Posts: 23

    With my current computer, I can do the render Iray of genesis but when I move the camera, so genesis becomes black and white and I have to wait for my computer to calculate again ..

    I do not know if you understand because my English is weak ..

  • nickalamannickalaman Posts: 196

    I have a 980ti and 3 titan video cards and it can still be slow when i rotate. see video, so do not expect miracles if you buy just 1 980ti.

     

     

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