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I bought this and love the light that it creates. Very nice, indeed!
I ran into a different problem, though. I have many characters that are not "standard size", so the rim lights that should be behind the head are way above them. Is there a simple way, like tying the mannequin to the light set and then using the Y-scale for height, to move the lights into the proper position?
I parented the lights to a null, and adjusted the height with that; best way I've found.
I've also gone to the individual lights and adjusted them separately where I didn't need to move all; the null I was moving more often; (you need to unlock them first when adjust individually).
If you change a preset, they are un-parented, but just drag them back on to the null seems to work fine.
@dreamfarmer
You were correct in your assumption. Step 2 is definitely the next step you take. Once this new update rolls out, the presets in Step 2 will work, so you won't have to load from the "subsets" subfolder.
The subsets folder seems to be causing some confusion for some people. So I am renaming it to "parts" instead, to better convey that it is a component of the preset, a part, but not the preset itself. The preset is in the root of STEP 2---the difference being, the presets replace your lights in the scene, while the subsets add to them.
Daz Studio is very much capable of making male faces with that level of detail. It's just that few people actually push it that far. It would, in the first place, require good quality HD topology, together with good lighting of course. :)
I am thinking I may release another update in the future that unlocks all the lights, since this seems to be more of an inconvenience than an aid. My original intention with locking the position of the lights, was to help impress upon people that most of the tweaking should be done by hiding/unhiding lights and adjusting lumens. Moving the lights should only be seen as an advanced thing---hence why they're locked. But for your case, and for others, it seems to be just an inconvenience (since moving the lights may be required for basic scene setup).
-P
Changing the height slightly was the first thing I did with this one, as the character is slightly petite; I'm actually pleased with this render, I can see issues with the hair, but converted from G2 pretty well (I discovered it due to another thread.)
... But your lights played well with the extra one I added for the 'ball' of fire, or mini star or whatever it is.
Post-work on the glow.
Ah, my problem wasn't as much the movability, but to get the lights into the correct posistion with my smaller people.
I hope I can explain it so that it makes sense.
I really like the Mannequin stand in, as I can see where the lights are in relation to each body part. If I use a smaller character (child, or someone who's 5'3" instead of 6'), they reach up to the chest or mid-face of the mannequin, and the lights aren't perfectly positioned. Now, it is rather simple to adjust the height of the mannequin, so it fits the figure again. But of course, the lights don't move down (or up if you deal with a 7' giant) with the height of the mannequin. So when you move them manually, you are back to guesswork.
Also... on the topic of locks... how about just making a position locked, and an unlocked preset? Those who like to tinker around can load the unlocked set, those who "plug and play" can't mess up their light setup by accident.
If it's not a full length shot and you can't see the floor, I've had good luck lifting the smaller person up to the right height to meet the lights. You could also try scaling the light set to match the scale of the person. This month I'm playing with rendering food under these lights. Should be interesting!
I"ve just bought it today and I have got two questions.
1) When I double clicked SCRIPT icon, there was nothing happen (not a change it the current scene tab). How can I know if there is any change? It seems that the consequence you give us is to run script first and add light preset later. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
2) Is there any ways to make light prop invisible (but remain light)?
There's going to be an update to fix the issue ( the topic is discussed some posts above, and on the previous page). There's also a workaround described.
Yes, moving up was what I ended up doing as well. The only problem is when you are doing a full body shot, or a different camera angle.
Thank you! I will find it.
@iSeeThis @BeeMKay @dreamfarmer @FusionLA @Lindsey @Redz @vwrangler @barbult
Hey guys,
Just to let you all know, the update rolled out earlier today. So you should be able to load the presets (in STEP 2 folder) now with no problem.
Thanks again for your patience, as always,
-P
I'm super happy with these lights. I'm not completely sure I'm using them exactly the right way yet. I'll have to play with them more. Anyway, I thought I'd share my first renders. The first one was just the default setup which was nice and the first time I've ever used a light set straight out of the box and didn't have to tweak it to look good. No postwork. That mannequin was a great idea. The second image, I played with a different preset, played with the base and diffuse colors one of the backdrops as I needed something a little bit more dramatic for this render. The second image has a little bit of postwork. There are two more non-postworked images on my thread as I kind of posted my progression in using these lights on this image on my thread to my final image posted here if anyone is interested in seeing how I got from the first image to the last one.
Please can you reply to the message I sent you yesterday. I wanted to know if beta testers are entitled to a copy of the update.
Suzan,
Your version of the light set should work just fine. It was only the released version---the one that went through QA---that got broken (due to a move of the files).
-P
Yeah, I'm liking these lightrs very much! Thanks for sharing/making/selling them!
Picked up SC Joy in Fastgrab and rendered her with the BOSS lights and a bit of postwork. I'm glad I got the lights, they're excellent:-)
SC Joy, Soleil Hair and Hobby Clothes.
I just picked up the light set. I am currently learning how to use them. What little I have been clumsily able to do looks pretty good though.
@knittingmommy and @nath - Great renders!
@Sigurd - Once you get used to them, they truly are amazing lights. I've done renders that I didn't even think were possible for my current skill level in DAZ. Really great set, can't recommend it enough.
@Gogger - Love the dramatic lights with those eyes! Wow, that's cool!
Here's one I did of Mariposa, coming soon from DarwinsMishap. She looks great in BOSS! The lights just caress her skin.
Note: I didn't make any special adjustments, this is one of the default presets.
Thanks for the encouragement Llynara, I look forward to having a little time to play with this set shortly.
I do have a question: I purchased this great light system, I loaded michael 7 and ran through all 3 steps, no changes to settings. My characters skin is red. so I loaded personally created models. The same, I have to really jack up the lumens in order to see his skin correctly. Not sure why. Thanks!
post a pic if you can; it shouldn't be at red using default, there is something wrong somewhere.
yes, I did probably 20 or more different renders with this light set and never had a character come out red.
I tried using this product but I didn't get the results you all seem to get. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. But I did read the manual, which I plan to read again.
I did find the product in Smart content and then I chose Explore Product, so I could see all the pieces together. There were some icons that showed three steps. So I followed them. The first step showed 3 icons. I wasn't sure if I was suppose to select one of them or all of them. The first one I tried closed my scene and created a new one with a red "stick" figure. I closed that and reloaded my scene and chose the one that said subset and then I clicked on the one that said render (settings?). Then I went on to step 2. I chose one of the ones for full body, which is what my figure was. (I didn't do step 3 as I had already loaded that Build a room product. And then I rendered. It didn't look too bad although there was a red square on part of the floor that I didn't put there and it wasn't there when I previously rendered the scene with different lights. But the scene only render for maybe 7-8 minutes and then it decided it was done. I never saw the yellow bar at all, and my scene was still somewhat grainy in areas. I would have let it run longer...at least until the graininess was gone.
Eventually I deleted the lights and tried adding my own, but that render ended too soon to. Less than 10 minutes and no yellow bar.
Finally I reset the render defaults and tried my own lights again and that time I got a good render that ran for about an hour (with a yellow bar.)
So I'm guessing that one of the icons from the BOSS product altered my render settings and that is why I got the abbreviated renders. And I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. And maybe someone can point out the error of my ways. Meanwhile I'll check out the pdf again.
Thanks.
Here's what I do in the test version. I'm planning on purchasing the published set soon, but for now I don't have the subset folders and I can't see it in Smart Content. I have noticed that loading the set seems to reset the render settings. My solution is to merge the set into the scene (see below.)
Here's my method, hope it helps:
If I remember right, it was red in the preview only, not the render? That one has me stumped!
@KevinH
I recommend using the "Content Library" pane instead of the "Smart Content" pane to load the light set. It is much easier to see how everything is organized, as each folder is its own step.
Also, the reason why your scene stops rendering so quickly is my render settings are set to 100 iterations by default. I have found that 100 iterations is sufficient for setting up a scene, and does not stress the GPUs too much. Then, when you are ready to render the final beauty shot, switch to the default 5,000 or whatever you need.
Llynara's directions (in the post above this one) are helpful. I would follow them carefully.
-P
This is how I do it as well. I always merge into the scene or drag and drop into the scene then it doesn't change my render settings or try to restart the scene. (there are quite a few light setups that are set up this way, I'm guessing because having a clean scene from scratch makes sure nothing interferes with the settings). Everyone's work flow is different, I tend to build my character then add lights. Having the mannequin pop in is quite helpful then as I know if my character is where it should be. I adjust then delete any helpers I don't need. Do make sure you explore all the different cameras provided, there are quite a few, and I have yet to find a myself needing to add a camera, he has it pretty well covered.
Fantastic set!
(as always, click on image for full size)
@Knittingmommy Wow, that first image looks like a painting. I've been looking that kind of style with postwork for quite some time now. Did you use some special skin settings, or just default G3M skin?