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Costs are' high" to produce" mocap live" in poser?

jorge dorlandojorge dorlando Posts: 1,157
edited December 1969 in The Commons

This is a question that has been hanging around mine head:
First: Is it possible to perform motion capture and apply them live in M4, V4, right into poser?
Second, it is still expensive ($ $)?
thank you

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,723
    edited December 1969

    I agree the costs of software and hardware to perform motion capture are still expensive, especially for hobbyist like myself.
    There were promises that with the availability of Kinect sensor motion capture will be more affordable, but I have not found yet
    a good solution with the price justifying a purchase. There is a Motion Capture Assistant for Poser priced $99.99
    http://www.contentparadise.com/productDetails.aspx?id=19580
    If somebody has purchased it, I would like to know how good it is.

  • jorge dorlandojorge dorlando Posts: 1,157
    edited December 1969

    Yeah ... This seems like a good option right: (http://www.contentparadise.com/productDetails.aspx?id=19580)
    But will have to buy the full xBox Kinect , to use the computer, or just the Kinect?

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,723
    edited December 2012

    In the description of the Motion Capture Assistant, it is stated, that the xBox Kinect is necessary to capture a data
    (without the xBox itself), but with the power supply for Kinect. It is connected via USB to the computer.
    Be aware that there is also a Windows Kinect which uses different drivers (from Microsoft)
    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/kinectforwindows/develop/
    and when using with iClone Pro Mocap plugin allows commercial use of the captured data.
    http://www.reallusion.com/iclone/iclone_mocap_device.aspx
    I do not know if the Windows Kinect can be used with the Motion Capture Assistant.

    Post edited by Artini on
  • TheNathanParableTheNathanParable Posts: 1,083
    edited December 1969

    You misunderstand, there is only one kinect. The windows drivers are required to get the kinect to work on a Windows pc.

  • creativemodelsbecreativemodelsbe Posts: 0
    edited December 2012

    you need 2 kinects for better mo-cap recording.
    if you use 1 kinect the motion is not perfect.
    same with ipisoft and 1 kinect = a serious mistake

    also you need usb3.0 connection and SSD disk for fast recording to disk.

    Post edited by creativemodelsbe on
  • jorge dorlandojorge dorlando Posts: 1,157
    edited December 1969

    2 kinects???
    And...
    "also you need usb3.0 connection and SSD disk for fast recording to disk."???
    is still out of my reach for now

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,723
    edited December 1969

    I know that it seems to be confusing, but actually there are 2 versions of Kinect, one for Xbox
    and the second for Windows (released on February 1, 2012 and available in 12 countries:
    United States, Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Mexico, New Zealand, Spain, United Kingdom).
    Read more on:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinect
    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/kinectforwindows/archive/2012/01/09/kinect-for-windows-commercial-program-announced.aspx

  • jaebeajaebea Posts: 454
    edited December 1969

    I have it and it works great with my one xbox Kinect. I bought it earlier this year when Content Paradise was having their half price sale. You can also get very personalized service from its developer, Andre O'Brien.

  • creativemodelsbecreativemodelsbe Posts: 0
    edited December 2012

    jaebea said:
    I have it and it works great with my one xbox Kinect. I bought it earlier this year when Content Paradise was having their half price sale. You can also get very personalized service from its developer, Andre O'Brien.

    and you create succesful motions where you turn around or lift legs up and down? or arms close against limb or hip :cheese:
    doesn't work well when use only 1 kinect.

    Post edited by creativemodelsbe on
  • jorge dorlandojorge dorlando Posts: 1,157
    edited December 2012

    Hi, jaebea
    but wanted to know:
    you get quite satisfying success with his M4 and V4 using kinect?

    Post edited by jorge dorlando on
  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,723
    edited December 1969

    I have also found some free utilities for Kinect and will probably give them a try.
    Kinect Mocap Basics
    https://sites.google.com/site/mcasualsdazscripts2/kinect-mocap-basics
    Brekel Kinect (free)
    http://www.brekel.com/?page_id=155
    Brekel has also some commercial utilities for Kinect, as well.
    http://brekel.com/shop/
    I am just wonder if anybody use them.

  • jorge dorlandojorge dorlando Posts: 1,157
    edited December 1969

    Artini said:
    I have also found some free utilities for Kinect and will probably give them a try.
    Kinect Mocap Basics
    https://sites.google.com/site/mcasualsdazscripts2/kinect-mocap-basics
    Brekel Kinect (free)
    http://www.brekel.com/?page_id=155
    Brekel has also some commercial utilities for Kinect, as well.
    http://brekel.com/shop/
    I am just wonder if anybody use them.

    Hello,
    thanks for letting me know that, and I will analyze my chances on this.
    However, in the last week, I bought ZignTrack2, and a C920 HD web camera.
    Now I'm struggling to make Zign work, I am having difficulty with are the markers that need to be green in color (green dots), I just can not find it in my town, I tried to create some, but it did not work, I can only now, try with peas ...

  • MouserMouser Posts: 675
    edited December 1969

    Hi guys, pardon me butting in on your conversation but do you know where the 'Motion Capture assistant' can be purchased from?
    It doesn't seem to be on Content Paradise anymore.

    Also now that you guys have had time to use it, what are your opinions on it?

  • jaebeajaebea Posts: 454
    edited December 1969

    Are you looking to use it in the newest version of Poser 10 or Pro 2014? If so, it doesn't work with them but it does work with Poser Pro 2012. I have it and I am friends with the developer. If you have Pro 2012, I could find out if he has it for sale anywhere.

  • MouserMouser Posts: 675
    edited December 1969

    I take it that its no longer supported?
    I'm currently using PP2014.

  • jaebeajaebea Posts: 454
    edited December 1969

    Andre told me that when Smith Micro made the upgrades to PP2014, they changed somethings that rendered the Motion Capture Assistant inoperable. It was going to take too much time to fix it and he is currently working on other plugins for Poser. So sorry!

  • jorge dorlandojorge dorlando Posts: 1,157
    edited December 1969

    But then, Poser Pro 2014 Game Dev, said that performs motions shots via kinect sensor ... But I've never tested it

  • MouserMouser Posts: 675
    edited December 1969

    Pity, it looked like it had potential.

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