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I found, after looking through 50 pages of vintage guitars, one that looks pretty much like my SG Custom. 1968 Gibson SG Custom Walnut with Gold hardware Mine is basically the same, but I don't know about the neck. I think the ebony fretless wonder was rather rare. It's hard to tell from a straight on view like that if it's the same fretboard. Anyway, maybe mine is a 68, too. I bought it used. If I had bought it new, I'd know for sure, of course. I only paid $225 for it, and I paid the guy $10 a week. I was rather poor at the time. I'm back in that condition now. Otherwise I'd probably have a few more in my collection. I'd love to get a PRS Santana (not the cheap one, the signature one) but that was going for $3,000 when they were making it...it's no longer produced. That was in the late 90s I think. And Ibanez makes a nice George Benson signature hollow body electric, but again, in the 90's that went for $6,000 new and was a custom shop order. I had my eyes on a nice Peavey Wolfgang for a while, with the drop D tuner. That was a nice guitar...smallish, he must be a small guy. I have small hands, too, so it would be great. But...no money, no money, no job...sucks.
For pedals, not much. I have an Electric Mistress flanger, Vox Wah, and Boss Blues Driver. That's it.
I don't play a lot, it's boring all by yourself. I've been thinking of starting up again, though. As I was checking on the model names and such, I picked up the violin style bass and it was almost perfectly in tune. The Guild acoustic was pretty close, too, and I haven't played that in years. Well, except for a couple of minutes (literally) once every year or two. If I tried the flute right now, I'd probably pass out. :lol: :red:
Dana
I always wanted to learn to play guitar and piano
I was going to complain about something but forgot what it was. Maybe it is that my back hurts. Maybe it was complaining that I have to wear reading glasses in order to read.
I have an old trumpet, too. I got an urge to try it, and got this student version. It wasn't expensive, I still have it. I don't even know the brand. I tried it, and was able to play a little bit of When the Saints Go Marching In. I have a partial dental, though, and it's tough to play with that. I've been told it's even more difficult with that to play the saxophone. Like I said, I used to get the urge to try something new every now and then. I always seemed to be able to do something with whatever it was. Just a gift, I guess. Once, I stopped in this music shop on my way home from high school, and asked the guy if I could try a violin. He rosined up a bow and handed them to me and after a few seconds was getting solid notes on it, not a tortured cat sound. :lol: I didn't buy it, didn't have the money then. But it was interesting, and a bit of a thrill that I could make it sing...I was always told how difficult it was.
Dana
I hate glasses! I blame the old computer CRT monitors! My eyes were great until I spent a lot of time in front of one of those. I wish they had flat panel LCD monitors when I started on computers, but that was sci-fi back then.
Dana
Guitar is easy to pick up but hard to master. Keys are just a pain, mainly due to all the different fingerings you need to learn for scales, modes, etc. :-S
I just find guitar more emotionally satisfying, I can make it sing, make it cry, or make it scream in insane rage.. covers most of my moods right there. :gulp:
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Have to consider dinner. Nothing at home, so it's going out.. but where? :-S
Top Notch for fried chicken, Dickeys for a rib plate, Austin Diner for a Longhorn skillet? :-S Sonic for two chili dogs? :-S :-S
Can't.. decide.. :blank:
...considering that the cost to go to any one of those schools for 6 years (at about 55,000 a year based on the tuition, residency, and book/supply fees at Julliard) it would come to over 300,000$ for the minimum of an under and post graduate degree (in very good academic standing with a few "stellar" performances under your belt) just to have the parish fathers consider giving you permission to play one of these instruments.
Compared to that ten grand is a steal.
The cost of a new three keyboard pipe organ of similar tonal resources to one the sampled ones would easily run between three quarter million to a million$ (or even more).
..and then you need the space to put it.
Pipe organs cannot be mass produced like electronic ones, as careful attention needs to be paid to the ambient acoustics of the location they will be installed in. Hence all "classic" or "liturgical" pipe organs are custom builds. The "strength" of the full ensemble needs to be matched to the space so it will not be too overpowering. By the same token softer, individual solo voices need to carry well and not sound faint or "lost" in the volume of the church/recital hall interior. A major part of this is accomplished by the delicate and time honoured art of ":voicing" (or "finishing") of the pipes in the location where the final assembly of the organ is to take place to match the acoustics properly.
Construction and finishing of an instrument similar in size to the French Romantic organ in Metz France (one of the sampled ones I want) would take about three years. That's a lot of man hours. Furthermore most organs (save for some firms which use an electronic rather than full mechanical key/pedal action) are still built to traditions and principles that haven't changed much for centuries.
This is a trade that for the most part still requires being accepted into an old style apprenticeship, and is one that usually doesn't have much turnover unless someone retires or passes on.
The only instrument builders that utilised the assembly line process were those like WurliTzer, and Barton and which exclusively built cinema organs (also referred to as "Unit Orchestras" since they could produce an amazing array of instrumental moods and sounds necessary for silent film accompaniment ) back in the 1920s. However, even they still contracted to build a few large custom instruments for the big cinema places, music halls and even sports venues in places like Los Angeles, Chicago, London and New York (Barton Organs of Wisconsin built the huge 6 Keyboard 820+ stop 3700+ pipe instrument that used to "rumble the rafters" at the old Chicago Stadium - I was fortunate to have actually sat at the console of this monster [see below] during an "organ crawl' in Chicago many many years ago).
...why didn't I take up something more portable like Violin, Flute, or Guitar? Heck even a Cello is more manageable.
Heheh @ all the music pr0n...
... carry on (^_^)/
...considering that the cost to go to any one of those schools for 6 years (at about 55,000 a year based on the tuition, residency, and book/supply fees at Julliard) it would come to over 300,000$ for the minimum of an under and post graduate degree (in very good academic standing with a few "stellar" performances under your belt) just to have the parish fathers consider giving you permission to play one of these instruments.
Compared to that ten grand is a steal.
The cost of a new three keyboard pipe organ of similar tonal resources to one the sampled ones would easily run between three quarter million to a million$ (or even more).
..and then you need the space to put it.
Pipe organs cannot be mass produced like electronic ones, as careful attention needs to be paid to the ambient acoustics of the location they will be installed in. Hence all "classic" or "liturgical" pipe organs are custom builds. The "strength" of the full ensemble needs to be matched to the space so it will not be too overpowering. By the same token softer, individual solo voices need to carry well and not sound faint or "lost" in the volume of the church/recital hall interior. A major part of this is accomplished by the delicate and time honoured art of ":voicing" (or "finishing") of the pipes in the location where the final assembly of the organ is to take place to match the acoustics properly.
Construction and finishing of an instrument similar in size to the French Romantic organ in Metz France (one of the sampled ones I want) would take about three years. That's a lot of man hours. Furthermore most organs (save for some firms which use an electronic rather than full mechanical key/pedal action) are still built to traditions and principles that haven't changed much for centuries.
This is a trade that for the most part still requires being accepted into an old style apprenticeship, and is one that usually doesn't have much turnover unless someone retires or passes on.
The only instrument builders that utilised the assembly line process were those like WurliTzer, and Barton and which exclusively built cinema organs (also referred to as "Unit Orchestras" since they could produce an amazing array of instrumental moods and sounds necessary for silent film accompaniment ) back in the 1920s. However, even they still contracted to build a few large custom instruments for the big cinema places, music halls and even sports venues in places like Los Angeles, Chicago, London and New York (Barton Organs of Wisconsin built the huge 6 Keyboard 820+ stop 3700+ pipe instrument that used to "rumble the rafters" at the old Chicago Stadium - I was fortunate to have actually sat at the console of this monster [see below] during an "organ crawl' in Chicago many many years ago).
...why didn't I take up something more portable like Violin, Flute, or Guitar? Heck even a Cello is more manageable.
Well, I had no idea pipe organs were such a production! :ahhh: :bug: Learned something new today.. :)
Six keyboards... :blank: :blank: :blank: Lordy. How do you play such a thing? :gulp:
Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr llllllllluuuuuuuuuuussssssttttttttttttttt! :smirk: :smirk: :smirk:
No wonder I don't have a gf, she'd get ticked that I spent all my time with my instruments and not with her! :red: :red:
I CAN play them...I just can't play music on them. :)
I can play guitar a bit; just not very well as I can't stand the sound of myself practicing. :-P
I learned to play the trumpet in high school. Didn't keep playing, so I've forgotten how. I still have my Conn as I can't bear to sell it.
Before he died six years ago, my Dad used to make and repair violins (after retirement as a watchmaker). He made 9 violins and had one more in the works when he passed away. He was an amateur bluegrass fiddler and played by ear.
One of his jokes:
What's the difference between a violin and a fiddle? A violin has strings and a fiddle has "strangs".
There actually is no difference, except in musical styles of the player.
Another one of his jokes:
Me. :lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katzenklavier
:gulp: :ahhh:
...considering that the cost to go to any one of those schools for 6 years (at about 55,000 a year based on the tuition, residency, and book/supply fees at Julliard) it would come to over 300,000$ for the minimum of an under and post graduate degree (in very good academic standing with a few "stellar" performances under your belt) just to have the parish fathers consider giving you permission to play one of these instruments.
Compared to that ten grand is a steal.
The cost of a new three keyboard pipe organ of similar tonal resources to one the sampled ones would easily run between three quarter million to a million$ (or even more).
..and then you need the space to put it.
Pipe organs cannot be mass produced like electronic ones, as careful attention needs to be paid to the ambient acoustics of the location they will be installed in. Hence all "classic" or "liturgical" pipe organs are custom builds. The "strength" of the full ensemble needs to be matched to the space so it will not be too overpowering. By the same token softer, individual solo voices need to carry well and not sound faint or "lost" in the volume of the church/recital hall interior. A major part of this is accomplished by the delicate and time honoured art of ":voicing" (or "finishing") of the pipes in the location where the final assembly of the organ is to take place to match the acoustics properly.
Construction and finishing of an instrument similar in size to the French Romantic organ in Metz France (one of the sampled ones I want) would take about three years. That's a lot of man hours. Furthermore most organs (save for some firms which use an electronic rather than full mechanical key/pedal action) are still built to traditions and principles that haven't changed much for centuries.
This is a trade that for the most part still requires being accepted into an old style apprenticeship, and is one that usually doesn't have much turnover unless someone retires or passes on.
The only instrument builders that utilised the assembly line process were those like WurliTzer, and Barton and which exclusively built cinema organs (also referred to as "Unit Orchestras" since they could produce an amazing array of instrumental moods and sounds necessary for silent film accompaniment ) back in the 1920s. However, even they still contracted to build a few large custom instruments for the big cinema places, music halls and even sports venues in places like Los Angeles, Chicago, London and New York (Barton Organs of Wisconsin built the huge 6 Keyboard 820+ stop 3700+ pipe instrument that used to "rumble the rafters" at the old Chicago Stadium - I was fortunate to have actually sat at the console of this monster [see below] during an "organ crawl' in Chicago many many years ago).
...why didn't I take up something more portable like Violin, Flute, or Guitar? Heck even a Cello is more manageable.
:bug: All the switches and draws! How can anyone remember what they're all for?
Dana
Just finished dinner. It was some hot dogs in beans and a sandwich with mayo. I hate mayo and do not want to eat it. I could not finish that **** sandwich so I threw the rest away. I try to tell the house lady that I do not want mayo but she keeps giving it to me. Is she that forgetful?
Morning. Sunny today under a smokey-grey sky :)
...well one doesn't need to be a musically inclined tentasquirrel . The reason for the multiple keyboards is to have a wide array of tonal resources available. This way instead of halting the music to change stops, the performer could simply move to one of the other keyboards. It also allows for playing a solo voice over a different set of stops in accompaniment.
While pretty much a concept that has been around since the days of Bach and even his predecessors, it is all the more important in cinema organs as the performer must frequently change moods to fit the scene and add the appropriate sound effects when needed.
Sound effects?
Cinema organs not only have the traditional pipes but also produce percussion and sound effects as well. Everything from drums, cymbals, piano, xylophone to train whistles, birdcalls and even gunshots. So the performer not only needed to be an imaginative musician required to improvise (as there were no specific scores just a type of "fake sheet" for the particular film), but also was the cinema's "foley artist" as well. Unlike a classical organ in which each keyboard is dedicated to a separate collection of pipes known as a "division", the pipes (as well as percussions and sound effects) on a cinema organ could be played from any one of the keyboards as well as the pedals.
A number of the stop tabs you see on the console actually control the same set of pipes but for each of the different keyboards and at different pitches. Others are known as couplers which add the pipes/sounds selected on on keyboard to the resources of another.
Cinema organs used a concept called "unification" whereby a single "rank" or set of pipes could be played at different pitches, say 16' and 8'. Each set would actually have more pipes than the number of keys on the keyboard. While each keyboard has 61 keys, there could be as many as 73, 85, 97, or even 109 separate pipes in an individual rank of say, a flute or trumpet stop. This allowed for pitches of 4', 8' 16' and even 32' (the "foot" term is organ nomenclature for pitch based on the lowest note on of keyboard if produced by a full length open pipe - for reference, playing middle C on an 8' organ stop would be the same pitch as middle C on a piano playing the same key on a 4' stop would sound an octave higher and on a 16 ' stop, an octave lower, hence the instrument's characteristic rich sound)
Unification allowed an instrument with even modest set of ranks to effectively have a much "bigger sound" (and more impressive stoplist). For example in spite of its massive console (which one would think controlled hundreds of ranks of pipes totaling ten thousand or more), the Chicago Stadium organ itself only had 51 ranks or sets of pipes totaling just over 3,700. in contrast, this is actually smaller than than the organ at Trinity Episcopal here in Portland which while having only three keyboards, has 58 stops, and 87 ranks of pipes totaling just over 4,000. The church's sanctuary is less than a quarter of the volume of the Chicago Stadium.
This concept was only possible after the introduction of electricity into organ building early in the 20th century as to do this mechanically would be a technician's nightmare.
The stop tab design was also pretty much a cinema organ innovation. Actuating the tabs used pretty much the same motion as playing the keyboard as they could easily be flicked down with the fingertip to activate the stop or up to cancel it as opposed to pulling or "drawing" stop knobs as on a more traditional classical instrument. Another improvement was the characteristic "horseshoe" shape of the console which kept all the stop tabs within easy reach of the organist. In a sense these were both an early case of ergonomic design.
OK still with me? (gee wiz if I knew as much about computers as I do about pipe organs, pianos and harpsichords, I'd have been rendering in 64 bit long ago).
Now the small round buttons under the keyboards are known as combination pistons. They are sort of like an archaic programmable memory system whereby one can preset a combination of pipes and sounds prior to performing. What this does is give the organist more versatility and a wider tonal palette at a single touch (usually with the thumb) thus eliminating the need for an assistant (or two) to manipulate the individual stop tabs. Many church and concert organs built in the last century also have this preset system (save for those that are built with fully mechanical key and stop actions). On the knee board down by the pedals there are also a number of toe pistons that work in the same manner again freeing the performer to make changes on the fly without stopping the music.
Cinema organs also had what was known as a "double touch" action whereby the performer could press the key down so far to get one type of sound then press down further to add more pipes/effects. Hence the loud "flourish" one often hears at the end of a phrase or piece. Some also had divided keyboards (this was a hallmark of instruments built by Barton) and even split pedal boards where one could play two different stops/presets on the same keyboard (this actually is a very old concept dating back to the Spanish classic era whereby the left hand stops controlled the left half of the keyboard and the right hand stops the right half)
Effectively the cinema organ was literally a one person orchestra (again hence the name "Unit Orchestra") which was a boon to the entertainment industry as the house only had to pay one performer instead of a dozen or more.
A fantastically complicated and ingeniously engineered machine that is devoted to nothing but sheer musical enjoyment.
..oh, and to the price of that virtual instrument I quoted a few posts back, add another 500$ for a 3/31 WurliTzer.
waiting for bead dough to do it's last rise before ov'n time. only put 1 tsp of salt. it's under a kitchen towel, will it rise like jiffypop?
made a coffee cake today. used plain yogurt instead of sour cream. i need an intervention to not eat any more of it today.
watched 4 Charmed episodes.
sends coffee cake nomms :)
I want a cupcake or a small cake.but I cannot get one.
Just got done watching the first season of Game of Thrones. That is a great show
no emergency candy stash?
thaz rough.
no emergency candy stash?
thaz rough.
on emergency stack . but do have some cereal bars and some bagels
...warming up the rest of the burrito stuffing I made up the other night.
...got the cheese shredded,
the onions chopped
vine tomatoes cut up
steaming the tortillas
taqueria salsa and sour creme at the ready.
Perfect on a chilly night.
on emergency stack . but do have some cereal bars and some bagels
:)
Eagles in Vray o3o
Bah. Wanted the wings to be folded, but they looked so weird DX
For some reason was intersecting with the body =/
Hey looks real lively and fearsome :)
I've been using a different font for each of my critter-forms, mostly as a reference. Wanted a unique one for each animal ^_^
Animal form - Name of Font
(Excpet for the first one, which is just my name :P )
When I really think about it, each font I chose really seems to fit the critter in question X3
Looks like it's been well-tested already ;-)
I cannot find the bagel I saved in case I wake up earlier than usual. house lady would be upset if I wandered lose in home. she can wander around by am not allowed to