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Just tried this, it's really great. It's amazing how it installs the content instantly. Like half a second or something. Which just makes me wonder why the installers always took so long.
One small bug to report. Occasionally when logging in it says I've entered the wrong password when i haven't. But after a couple of tries it recognises it. Anyone else get this?
I absolutely like how the DIM has so many options to show and hide files and filter them based on applications.
Some open questions for situations I encountered so far which I was not quite sure what to do:
Studio CF - files
Am I asuming right that the Studio CF files are pretty much the reverse as Poser CF files?
Content designed mainly in the poser format has Studio CF files in a separate installer to make them also work in Studio?
It is absolutely necessary to also install the Studio CF files or the content will not work in Studio?
Example:
http://www.daz3d.com/west-park-basement
GC General Content - OBJ
For a very few items sold in the DAZ store there was also a separate installer included for just the .obj versions.
I used those files quite often so I save time on converting to .obj from inside DS4.5.
I was playing around with the filters but am I assuming right that currently there is not (yet) any support to download those files?
Example:
http://www.daz3d.com/cs-city-poser-ds-obj
PS version of file showing when only DS4.5 is selected
I have unchecked all other applications than DS4.5 but in only one case so far I also had the PS version showing.
If that happens is that just a left over from categorizations or can we go with the rule of thumb?:
Poser users have to install only PS and Poser CF files.
Studio users have to install only DS and Studio CF files.
If files for other software marked with "only" PS or DS without the CF files addon are shown when only one application is selected this will probably be a mistake and it can be ignored?
Example:
http://www.daz3d.com/cherry-blossom-hair
Carrara files
I wanted to try to see how much of my DS content has allready Carrara file version.
Is that feature not yet implement or do I need to have a current version of Carrara installed to see those options?
I do not see Carrara listed under the applications but many versions of studio and posers that all can be toggled on and off.
Files with mixed installation paths
It seems currently it is only possible to download "content" with the DIM.
Just curious?
Will it in the future be possible to download also applications like "Keymate", Uber Shading Packs" etc?
Or even download and get updates for DS4.5?
It seems that those files are more complicated to install because some content is writen to the "Library" and some information also to C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D
In the past especially those files that also write to C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D gave me problems after reinstallations win7 to win8 updates because of course the files in C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D would be removed but the references were still there in the "Library" by just placing backups of the "Library" on the new system.
So it would make sense that those would also need a special treatment that may not be optimal to be handled with DIM?
On the other hand it would be very cool to have a special kind of filter inside DIM that shows those installers that write to the Library and Program Files folders.
So one knows to download and install those again after complete reinstallations.
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hmm I guess thats all I encountered so far.
Almost done with downloading:
Clothing, Stand Alone Figures, Hair, Location files are done
Now people, props and poses are left.
In total only invested about 4 -5 hours on and off so far. Before it took me about a week to get this far!
It is amazing after having a new tool one cannot imagine how it was done before. o.0
Again, thank you a lot for this great workflow improving tool!!!
I have tried unsuccessfully all morning to use the app. Every time it says that my username/password is incorrect. I have even tried resetting the password. Still no luck.
I am not sure what is more frustrating today. The fact that DAZ continually crashes on my machine now every 5-10 minutes making it impossible to finish my latest project...the fact that no one at DAZ has resolved my PC membership issues despite 2 open tickets and a phone call to the sales dept...or this password issue?
Greetings,
Just a quick note; I chose to download (and not install) the 108 final items I had which were V4/M4 specific (that I'd excluded from earlier installs) and then install them as a single queued operation.
It took 13 minutes and 10 seconds to install 108 items, and no more clicks after the 'Start Queue' button.
That's pretty darn nice.
That all said, the Morphing Python which was a bonus when buying one of the asian-influenced new releases doesn't seem to appear in the DIM. Which is weird, because it downloads (from the normal download) as a .ZIP file in the exact same format. I could create a IM00010192_morphing-python.dsx for it, except for one issue...I don't know the ProductFileGUID for the MorphingPython; it's clearly not the same as the GlobalId in the Manifest.dsx in the .zip file. I'm tempted to fake it, generating a GUID under the theory that when the download tool gets the Morphing Python it will see it as a different GUID, and offer it as an update...
-- Morgan
If I recall the python is rather old and was brought back. It might just not be in the system yet, along with other pre-V4 items.
I can only share what happend to me at the first startup:
When setting up the account I did not really read the text entry fields and assumed that the first line is e-mail and the second line is the password.
Instead on the first line you can enter your username and on the second line you can enter your e-mail.
you are then forwarded to a new box where you have to enter your password.
This is only like that the very first time you use the DIM.
Afterwards it is
Username/e-mail: theUsername / e-mail you entered
Password : thepasswordyouentered
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If you entered this wrong at startup the program will then take your password you entered instead of the e-mail as e-mail and you end up trying to log in with
Username/e-mail: thepasswordyouentered
Password : thepasswordyouentered
I checked in the video again DAZ Install Manager - New to 3D Content (for Windows users) and there it seems to be just e-mail and password.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE5C5w4ha_M
It seems that something has changed since the videos were done.
In the video it just seems to be:
e-mail: e-mail you entered
Password : thepasswordyouentered
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It seems in the version of the DIM in the video there was no option to enter the username
Anyway. Maybe that is the thing that also confused you.
Just read carefully what you have to enter in the fields.
Update /Edit:
If you are now worrying how to correct those wrong entries quickly and remove the wrong account.
I just deinstalled the DIM and installed it again.
Then I entered the proper information in the fields to set up the account and was able to log in.
It may be possible to manually remove accounts in a more smart way but that was the first thing I could think of to do.
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Now that the DIM is doing all the work I really seem to have to much time on my hand to read around and write on the forum. ;-)
I think for clarity it should be mentioned the inherent dangers in having everything on "C" drive. As some people don't seem to get what we are talking about or why it should worry us.
(if you only have a "C" drive then of course this won't apply)
An example is the best way to get our point across - about 2 weeks ago my Windows 8 upgrade went ca ca and as a result I ended up having to do a fresh install of Windows. Now if had my 191 GB of Poser Runtimes and 12 GB D|S files on "C" drive rather than safely tucked away on "I" drive - I would no doubt still be reinstalling all my content - but as it was I only had to reinstall the actual programs not the content.
Greetings,
Bingo. I was able to create a dsx file that worked, and just had to rename IM00010192_morphing-python.zip to IM00010192-01_MorphingPython.zip (and name the .dsx file similarly) and it installed.
Now to hope that I set the 'Installer Date' old enough that when a new one shows up, it'll be seen as an update... :)
-- Morgan
p.s. Now I have the urge to write an 'Installer Wrapper' which wraps up bare ZIP files, like from ShareCG, etc., in installer-managed zip+dsx files... ;)
Only the app gets put on the C drive. All the download and install folders can be on an external drive.
Thank you for this. I've not read about it before. May just move most/all of the 3GB in my Programs folders off that drive...or even better, the folders themselves. o.o I'm not afraid to live dangerously...heheh.
Installer Date does is just used for filtering/shorting. The GUID is what determines an update.
two questions -
1) is there only a 32 bit version of the new DIM?
2) I am reinstalling DS 4.5 on my new system hard drive, should I install Daz 4.5 and the genesis starter essentials and then DIM and all my other content (only 897 orders - ORDERS not Items...) or does one install the genesis starter essentials through the DIM?
ok I lied, 3 questions..
3) If installing content to another drive (other than my ssd drive), which items HAVE to be installed to system - genesis? v4, M4 bases??? will the DIM guide me on that?
1) Only a 32 bit version, which will run on 64 bit OS just fine.
2) DIM will install the Genesis Starter Essentials, if you have it uninstall it. You don't have to re-install 4.5
3) No content has to be installed to your system, only applications/plugins neen to go there and DIM does not support at applications/plug-ins at this time.
1) Only a 32 bit version, which will run on 64 bit OS just fine.
2) DIM will install the Genesis Starter Essentials, if you have it uninstall it. You don't have to re-install 4.5
3) No content has to be installed to your system, only applications/plugins neen to go there and DIM does not support at applications/plug-ins at this time.
Thanks for that LIGHTNING fast reply!
OK not technically a reinstall... I should have said INSTALL DS for the first time on my new hard drive. or does DIM download the latest DS4.5?
Thanks for that LIGHTNING fast reply!
OK not technically a reinstall... I should have said INSTALL DS for the first time on my new hard drive. or does DIM download the latest DS4.5?
DIM only does standard Poser / Studio content at this time.
I think for clarity it should be mentioned the inherent dangers in having everything on "C" drive. As some people don't seem to get what we are talking about or why it should worry us.
(if you only have a "C" drive then of course this won't apply)
An example is the best way to get our point across - about 2 weeks ago my Windows 8 upgrade went ca ca and as a result I ended up having to do a fresh install of Windows. Now if had my 191 GB of Poser Runtimes and 12 GB D|S files on "C" drive rather than safely tucked away on "I" drive - I would no doubt still be reinstalling all my content - but as it was I only had to reinstall the actual programs not the content.
Download of content and installation of content are not limited to C:
At release we did not allow for an alternative installation path for the application because of a problem with allowing it on the Mac. We are, and have been, looking at ways to address this.
Great Thanks!
guess I'll install DS tomorrow. Goddnight all.
Well that is good to hear - just for clarification as far as I am aware those of us who complained about the DIM installing to "C" drive never claimed that content could only be installed to "C" drive
Well that is good to hear - just for clarification as far as I am aware those of us who complained about the DIM installing to "C" drive never claimed that content could only be installed to "C" driveI have heard that misconception so I thought it would be a good idea to make sure that is clear. :)
This has been zipped and should show in your que later tonight. (DAZ tonight- which is NOT the same as DAZ Soon) LOL
Thanks!
Does the application, in this context, include the manifests? It would - if I use the installer part - be annoying to lose those to a reformat/reinstall of Windows.
Does the application, in this context, include the manifests? It would - if I use the installer part - be annoying to lose those to a reformat/reinstall of Windows.
The manifests are all located in "C:\Users\Public\Documents\DAZ 3D\InstallManager\ManifestFiles" (on pc). The location of these files is independent of where IM is actually installed.
Does the application, in this context, include the manifests? It would - if I use the installer part - be annoying to lose those to a reformat/reinstall of Windows.
The manifests are all located in "C:\Users\Public\Documents\DAZ 3D\InstallManager\ManifestFiles" (on pc). The location of these files is independent of where IM is actually installed.
Yes, but without using a trick like a symbolic link that's still on C: and so vulnerable if the user has to reinstall the OS, which a location on another drive might not be.
I can confirm that the DIM still works fine after moving C:\Users\Public\Documents\DAZ 3D\InstallManager to I:\DAZ 3D\InstallManager and using a symbolic link
So far it seems to be working fine.
I changed the weird new path to the regular one and it went fine.
I like the filters, the list in one page, it’s fast, automatic... Yeah, I can’t complain.
If this is supposed to do some kind of categorization too, like Smart Content, I don’t know, I think I read something about it, but my whole Smart Content and Content Manager died days ago.
I see there’s no Reality, Ron’s brushes and other files. I guess it will ignore files that does not go into a runtime, but I would still like to have everything showing.
All my plugins, including LAMH and Reality stayed put right where they were after I reset the database and unmapped the old directories and only mapped the new Public path. Yes, I decided to start fresh and redo the whole thing. When all the Gen 3 & 4 files are ready for DL, I might regret my decision. But I still have my old computer with the pre-DIM structure in tact.
Ok I installed the DIM last night and downloaded all of my stuff. And even tried a few freebies tonight. So far I love it because I've been broken into twice and all of my stuff stolen and just haven't had the heart to download and reinstall everything all over again. So what I had was about 1/2 of the old stuff installed along with what I've purchased lately.
So for ME, it works out well. I've been wanting to start from scratch anyway for some time.
So, I have all of Daz Content installed.
I know I need to:
A) Install Non-Daz content aka Rendo, Content Paradise, Freebies, etc (which I was going to do anyway). Would it be better to do another runtime for these types of items to keep them separate from the Daz stuff?
B) Since I'm going to start all over, Would it be better to uninstall Daz and then reinstall and hook up the new folder that way? Or just stay with what I have and reset the database after hooking up the new folder and taking out the old?
Just a note, I do not have any personal items installed, or done any presets, etc. I've created and saved everything as scenes only so I think I'm good as far as that goes.
I've only gone through about 1/2 of this thread so if questions are redundant I apologize. It's been a long day and my nephew's cancer has been wrecking my thought patterns lately. My concentration isn't good lol.
Ok, without having to reread everything, in a nutshell, I will have to uninstall over 1000 items of content and then reinstall only on c: drive when all my stuff is now on d: drive?
Yeesh.
You can download and install to whatever drive you like. You only have to install the app (DAZ Install Manager) to the C drive
Only thing that has to install to C is the DIM application itself. Everything else can go back on D: (I'm downloading and installing to G), and uninstalling is optional (though reccomended for reasons of being able to uninstall going forward.)
I know I was pretty against it earlier, but since a couple of viable workarounds were found that allows me to not have to rebuild my runtimes, I'm feeling better. :)