Ooooh, how about that! Just in time!

PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321

So I have a vote incentive to go up tomorrow... Melody 2 with Silvermoon hair in a shower...
Need to give her a head full of suds so she'll have a reason to have her arms raised...
Shampoo suds aren't easy to fake, snow doesn't cut it...
Nothing I try works, time to panic...
This just appeared in the store: https://www.daz3d.com/3d-toon-clouds-for-iray-and-3delight
Close enough, ought to work.

Thank you, Marshian. I know it's not what you intended, but kitbashing is my best friend.

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,724

    Oh you're right, they do look like they could be foam. What a creative use for them. Good eye. :) I hope you show us when you're done, if you get them. 

  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321
    edited July 2017

    Shows promise:

    3TC Density 9.0, SSS Amount 0.14. Still needs tweaking, but I'm happy.

    Chirk Shower 001.jpg
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  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321
    edited July 2017

    Now if Marshian would just do this as actual suds. It would be nice if the hair suds were one morphing piece, instead of three clouds scaled to 2.0%!

    Maybe Maclean will come up with some Everyday Morphing Suds...

    Post edited by Petercat on
  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 5,997
    Petercat said:

    Now if Marshian would just do this as actual suds. It would be nice if the hair suds were one morphing piece, instead of three clouds scaled to 2.0%!

    Maybe Maclean will come up with some Everyday Morphing Suds...

    Maybe a nautical themed product - "rum, sudsomy and the lash"? cheekydevil

  • ColinFrenchColinFrench Posts: 647

    Very clever!

    I think you may have doubled the sales of Marshian's product.

  • tkztkz Posts: 149

    May even find a market on renderotica with that... sorry, couldn't hold it back.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,971
    Petercat said:

    Shows promise:

    3TC Density 9.0, SSS Amount 0.14. Still needs tweaking, but I'm happy.

    You could call it "Head in the clouds"...

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082
    edited July 2017
    He's already released "Foam Party," and it works quite well as suds. I posted several examples using the FP shader on an existing foam suit in the Foam Party thread in the commercial products section. https://www.daz3d.com/forums/uploads/FileUpload/8c/03d09405864db0cae68d39caa415dd.jpg
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  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,770

    He's got another product that can be used as soap bubbles here: https://www.daz3d.com/above-the-clouds-for-iray-nimbostratus

    I think he shared a render in Novica's thread showing it used in a bathtub (maybe thread 7, I'll look.) 

    And Ron has soap sud brushes too: https://www.daz3d.com/rons-suds

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,169
    edited July 2017

    IMVHO, the clouds look better than Foam Party. There's something about the render that Cybersox13 linked to...the foam looks all lit up and unnatural.

    Laurie

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  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321
    Llynara said:

    He's got another product that can be used as soap bubbles here: https://www.daz3d.com/above-the-clouds-for-iray-nimbostratus

    I think he shared a render in Novica's thread showing it used in a bathtub (maybe thread 7, I'll look.) 

    And Ron has soap sud brushes too: https://www.daz3d.com/rons-suds

    Thank you! In the cart it goes!
    Do Ron's brushes work in other programs besides Photoshop? I don't use it, and haven't bought any.

  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321
    SimonJM said:
    Petercat said:

    Now if Marshian would just do this as actual suds. It would be nice if the hair suds were one morphing piece, instead of three clouds scaled to 2.0%!

    Maybe Maclean will come up with some Everyday Morphing Suds...

    Maybe a nautical themed product - "rum, sudsomy and the lash"? cheekydevil

    I'd rather have the planet Erewhon's Suds Emporium!

  • srieschsriesch Posts: 4,241

    I wonder how hard it would be to create a bunch of nearly-transparent reflective spheres and instance a zillion of them across the surface of the foam.  It wouldn't be perfect of course, and you would probably have to create a cluster with a few larger ones and smaller ones arranged to avoid having overlapping bubbles.  But perhaps it would add to the effect?   Might be tricky though.

  • dragotxdragotx Posts: 1,138
    Petercat said:
    SimonJM said:
    Petercat said:

    Now if Marshian would just do this as actual suds. It would be nice if the hair suds were one morphing piece, instead of three clouds scaled to 2.0%!

    Maybe Maclean will come up with some Everyday Morphing Suds...

    Maybe a nautical themed product - "rum, sudsomy and the lash"? cheekydevil

    I'd rather have the planet Erewhon's Suds Emporium!

    If that is an Honor Harrington reference, I like you.
  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321
    SimonJM said:
    Petercat said:

    Now if Marshian would just do this as actual suds. It would be nice if the hair suds were one morphing piece, instead of three clouds scaled to 2.0%!

    Maybe Maclean will come up with some Everyday Morphing Suds...

    Maybe a nautical themed product - "rum, sudsomy and the lash"? cheekydevil

    I'd rather have the planet Erewhon's Suds Emporium!

    dragotx said:
    Petercat said:
    SimonJM said:
    Petercat said:

    Now if Marshian would just do this as actual suds. It would be nice if the hair suds were one morphing piece, instead of three clouds scaled to 2.0%!

    Maybe Maclean will come up with some Everyday Morphing Suds...

    Maybe a nautical themed product - "rum, sudsomy and the lash"? cheekydevil

    I'd rather have the planet Erewhon's Suds Emporium!

     

    If that is an Honor Harrington reference, I like you.

    Yes, It is! So nice to make a new friend!

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082
    AllenArt said:

    IMVHO, the clouds look better than Foam Party. There's something about the render that Cybersox13 linked to...the foam looks all lit up and unnatural.

    Laurie

    That's just lighting as it's lit with an inverted GhostLight dome directly overhead. Here's an alternate take under a different light using one grade of foam for the body suds on the wet skin and a different grade for the larger globs. Both the FP shader and the cloud ones work, but the FP reflect light like a wet surface while the clouds have a drier appearance.https://www.daz3d.com/forums/uploads/FileUpload/7d/f790c5f70200631b2be977e5430708.jpg
  • MarshianMarshian Posts: 1,465
    I'm with you on kit bashing. I build products to allow for this so soak it up!
    Petercat said:

    So I have a vote incentive to go up tomorrow... Melody 2 with Silvermoon hair in a shower...
    Need to give her a head full of suds so she'll have a reason to have her arms raised...
    Shampoo suds aren't easy to fake, snow doesn't cut it...
    Nothing I try works, time to panic...
    This just appeared in the store: https://www.daz3d.com/3d-toon-clouds-for-iray-and-3delight
    Close enough, ought to work.

    Thank you, Marshian. I know it's not what you intended, but kitbashing is my best friend.

  • MarshianMarshian Posts: 1,465
    Foam party and these toon clouds are family. This is an example of a product that reached enough potential to become 2. They were both really tough to create. I'm very pleased with the response.

    Very clever!

    I think you may have doubled the sales of Marshian's product.

  • dragotxdragotx Posts: 1,138
    Petercat said:
    SimonJM said:
    Petercat said:
     
    dragotx said:
    Petercat said:

    I'd rather have the planet Erewhon's Suds Emporium!

     

    If that is an Honor Harrington reference, I like you.

    Yes, It is! So nice to make a new friend!

    Awesome!  Don't run into too many people that know the series, always nice to find another fan

  • MarshianMarshian Posts: 1,465
    This is a good idea, I can see it working. I know I could create the surface material. I frequently struggle with trying to keep the polygon count low. I'll think about it some more.
    sriesch said:

    I wonder how hard it would be to create a bunch of nearly-transparent reflective spheres and instance a zillion of them across the surface of the foam.  It wouldn't be perfect of course, and you would probably have to create a cluster with a few larger ones and smaller ones arranged to avoid having overlapping bubbles.  But perhaps it would add to the effect?   Might be tricky though.

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020

    I would hazard a guess to create a mesh with physical zillion tiny bubbles would be serious overkill with mesh density and scene load... Perhaps with the right knowledge a new specific shader could be written to do it, to simulate thousands of bubbles within the volume. I cant see it feasible with Iray Uber.

    Although I've never had a call for suds in my projects, I do want to commend the OP for the great thinking outside the box with that wonderful render haha

  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321

    I'm glad you went to the trouble of making it.
    I'm also happy that you came here and spoke with us.
    Makes things easier to buy if there's a friendly person behind them.

    Marshian said:
    Foam party and these toon clouds are family. This is an example of a product that reached enough potential to become 2. They were both really tough to create. I'm very pleased with the response.

    Very clever!

    I think you may have doubled the sales of Marshian's product.

     

     

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082
    dragotx said:
    Petercat said:
    SimonJM said:
    Petercat said:
     
    dragotx said:
    Petercat said:

    I'd rather have the planet Erewhon's Suds Emporium!

     

    If that is an Honor Harrington reference, I like you.

    Yes, It is! So nice to make a new friend!

    Awesome!  Don't run into too many people that know the series, always nice to find another fan

    Oh, there are a lot of us... though Weber himself seems to be suffering from massive writers block on the series and the last few books have barely progressed the story at all. For a while there Eric Flint's side stories were keeping the franchise running, but I think he's been hamstrung by the non-progress in the main universe. At this point I just hope that Weber can pull it together and finish off the Mesan alignment arc so there'll be some kind of an ending before the series ends up getting turned over to someone else to complete based on his notes. :(            

  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321

    Oh, there are a lot of us... though Weber himself seems to be suffering from massive writers block on the series and the last few books have barely progressed the story at all. For a while there Eric Flint's side stories were keeping the franchise running, but I think he's been hamstrung by the non-progress in the main universe. At this point I just hope that Weber can pull it together and finish off the Mesan alignment arc so there'll be some kind of an ending before the series ends up getting turned over to someone else to complete based on his notes. :(            

    Agreed. I am afraid that David might be learning the Steven King lesson, that once you become famous, you can churn out anything and it will sell. I just bought the most recent book in the Safehold series, and it's over for me, even if he writes more, I won't be buying them. I, too, wish that he would get back to the Harrington series, and to the things which made him such a popular author. Building interesting characters that the ordinary person can relate to, putting them in interesting situations, and letting them figure it out. I think that turning his early series into a space opera with a cast of thousands was a big mistake.
    Lately his books have read like something John Ringo would write, perfect people doing things flawlessly, bad guys irredeemably evil and incompetent, no grey areas or self-doubts. This was most evident in "Out of the Dark", where I found myself liking the bad guys more than the good guys. He isn't creating flawed characters any more, like Aubry Wanderman or Warner Caslet, or even the young Honor. At least, unlike Ringo, Weber hasn't overused the Deus Ex Machina, or resorted to BDSM to attract readers. "Ghost" was garbage, and "Callie's War" was way over the top. The man has some seriously ugly things living inside his skull.

    Argh. I didn't intend to get into a Ringo Rant. I'll just add this and stop: I know John's a former Marine of some type, he certainly has the lingo down pat, but I don't need the constant reminders of just how tacticool he is. When I read the phrase "Battle Rattle" (web gear) used twice in one paragraph, I put the book down and left it there.

  • dragotxdragotx Posts: 1,138
    dragotx said:
    Petercat said:
    SimonJM said:
    Petercat said:
     
    dragotx said:
    Petercat said:

    I'd rather have the planet Erewhon's Suds Emporium!

     

    If that is an Honor Harrington reference, I like you.

    Yes, It is! So nice to make a new friend!

    Awesome!  Don't run into too many people that know the series, always nice to find another fan

    Oh, there are a lot of us... though Weber himself seems to be suffering from massive writers block on the series and the last few books have barely progressed the story at all. For a while there Eric Flint's side stories were keeping the franchise running, but I think he's been hamstrung by the non-progress in the main universe. At this point I just hope that Weber can pull it together and finish off the Mesan alignment arc so there'll be some kind of an ending before the series ends up getting turned over to someone else to complete based on his notes. :(            

    I think part of the issue with the slowdown in the mainline books is he's having to drastically change the timing on where everything went.  He had planned on killing off Honor during the first Battle of Manticore and doing a time jump to continue the series with her children and the new generation of characters from Shadow of Saganami, but his wife convinced him not to kill her off.  So he's had to reshuffle his entire plan to accomodate that drastic change.

  • HaslorHaslor Posts: 408
    Petercat said:
    Llynara said:

    He's got another product that can be used as soap bubbles here: https://www.daz3d.com/above-the-clouds-for-iray-nimbostratus

    I think he shared a render in Novica's thread showing it used in a bathtub (maybe thread 7, I'll look.) 

    And Ron has soap sud brushes too: https://www.daz3d.com/rons-suds

    Thank you! In the cart it goes!
    Do Ron's brushes work in other programs besides Photoshop? I don't use it, and haven't bought any.

    I don't use Photshop, but Affinity Photo and all of Ron's Brushes I've picked up, I can load and use like I was in Photoshop.

    I also just found it will use some Photoshop add-ons and I'm thinking of seeing if it will work with the Photoshop Bridge, which would be very Cool.

    I don't know what you use, but read the documentation for your programs to find out about the Brushes. 

     

  • SotoSoto Posts: 1,440

    I am wondering how would that look with a bit of frosty/specular effect similar to this:

     

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,293

    Hmmm....that candied fruit looks good. Maybe I can make some later this year.

    My clouds are not so billowy, opaque, and steamy looking but they do have a nice sunset look. Maybe I have them too close? I was going for an after-the-storm look.

    I applied the 9.5 Shader Preset & then the Sunset Preset. Which should I applied to make them look billowy? Or do I need to use that special CloudCam you have supplied in one of your PreLoads?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,205
    ...so these are actual meshes and not billboards. Crikey, it would be nice to get realisic (possibly morphable) clouds. If only Iray supported true volumetrics.
  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,293
    kyoto kid said:
    ...so these are actual meshes and not billboards. Crikey, it would be nice to get realisic (possibly morphable) clouds. If only Iray supported true volumetrics.

    They are meshes and quite nice ones too with a nice set of camera, shaders, and iRay settings besides a nice selection of clouds.

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