Should I buy Michael 8 or a Deluxe Coffee Grinder

Hi, All.

I'm looking for multiple perspectives on how to spend $200. 

Michael 8 and all his retreads (morphs, poses, scripts)

or 

The Breville SmartGrinder Pro

I'm interested in pros and cons. 

 

Comments

  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,770
    edited August 2017

    Maybe it's just me, but I'm thinking Michael 8 is way more exciting than a coffee grinder. Though the coffee grinder might have a longer shelf life, LMAO

    PS I have a Cuisinart coffee grinder, don't use it much. I'd go with M8, LOL

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  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634

    go with the grinder. :)

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,533

    M8 will eventually go on sale meanwhile you are missing all that freshly ground coffee in your perculator cheeky

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,836
    edited August 2017

    Hi .
    In two years when Breville releases a new 


    "most backwards compatible coffee grinder ever",


    your entire supply of gourmet blends will still
     be perfectly usable with your "old" grinder
    as well as any new blends that may be released going forward.

    Will the same be true for M8??

    Post edited by wolf359 on
  • MarkIsSleepyMarkIsSleepy Posts: 1,496

    It's hard to give an opinion because it depends so much on details of your life we aren't privy to. smiley

    Do you do a lot of closeup renders of male figures, where advances from the prior generation of Michael might make a difference? Did you see something for M8 that you really need for some particular rendering purpose, or can you do everything you want to do with what you already have? For example, I rarely render male figures and when I do they are usually far enough from the camera that upgrading immeditately to M8 wouldn't be worth it for me, plus there is nothing in the recent releases that I saw as an immediate "I need this for that render I've been putting off!" type thing.

    How much coffee do you drink, and is it being freshly ground important to you? I drink several cups of coffee every day and used to have a grinder, but in practice it was just too much work to use in the time I have before work each morning and I only used it on weekends, using pre-ground coffee the rest of the time.

    For me, neither option would be a good use of $200. I'd probably spend it on books. It depends on you. Sorry, I know that's not terribly helpful.laugh

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,293

    Well I am buying me a Keurig Expresso coffee make for Christmas. LOL, I don't even drink coffee but that smell once a morning is too good.

  • RobinsonRobinson Posts: 751

    Buy the grinder.  I've got 2 bags of beans in my cupboard and no grinder.  It's annoying when I run out of ground coffee.  I should get one.

  • alexhcowleyalexhcowley Posts: 2,392

    Neither. Visit Stonemason's store instead.

    Cheers,

    Alex.

  • Perhaps both.  Perhaps neither.  Perhaps something else.

    1) Maybe buy a cheap blade coffee grinder.  Here's one.  They also work well as a spice grinder.  Some will tell you that a burr grinder is the way to go, and they may be right.  But I maintain that if you can detect a difference in result, then you are entirely too sensitive and delicate for this world--and consequently have problems no coffee grinder yet made can do much about.  Similar argument contra the anal- retentive (not to be judgmental)* need to control grind fineness with rocket scientist precision.

    2) Maybe use the free versions of Daz figures.  When the desire for variety overwhelms you, get Blender and go to learning.  Cheap bastards everywhere call that the Henry David Thoreau method.  As in "Hey Henry David! If you're not going to eat that, Thoreau it over here."  Also known as the "finding self-winding" method.  In reference to a fine book called The Mouse and His Child by Russell and Lillian Hoban.  You may have better things to do with your time or simply no time in which to do things, but if not you'll eventually learn something and feel more the master of your fate, which can be a satisfying, if highly illusory and sometimes quite painful, experience.

    But eventually you'll probably want a sculpting program.  There's sculptris for free, but then you'll need a retopolgy solution and will be probably thinking "well how about the educational version of 3d-coat for sculpting and textures or maybe Zbrushcore bundled with a Wacom tablet, which I could really use anyway?"  This pretty much eats the budget--more than for the bundle--but why not?

    Be aware of something my wise old father once observed:  "certain hobbies can consume enormous amounts of material and spiritual resources (photography, boats, golf, heroin) and if you think you'll use any of my funds for any such purposes, you may think again, little man."  The "do it your damn self" approach has that weakness.  Probably every subscription to Maya sprang from a perfectly innocent economy measure.

    3)  On the off chance you're a budding illustrator--and if you already knew who Lillian Hoban was, you might be--I can recommend just using Design Doll to generate pose and lighting reference.  Has a free version.  Has IK that is a joy to use.  As opposed to being an object of scorn.  Not naming names.  (But goddamnit unnamed people, did you not pass Linear Algebra?)

    Best of luck.

    *for rhetoric fans, that there is an example of paralipsis.  Saying you're not saying something even though you just said it.  Or was that "apophasis?"  Hard to keep those two fellers sorted out.

  • JamesJABJamesJAB Posts: 1,760

    That's a nice grider, and the fact that it grinds through into a catcher, instead of just being a spinning blade in a cup is nice.  

  • mtl1mtl1 Posts: 1,507

    Are you looking for speed or precision?

    If you want precision, buy one of the manual Harios.

    If you want speed (and other bells and whistles), check out a Baratza.

    Alternatively: https://gearpatrol.com/2016/07/13/grind-it-out-10-best-coffee-grinders/

    (I may or may not be a complete caffeine addict...)

  • I don't drink coffee. The caffeine is bad for me, since I have Sleep Apnea. I don't know about you, but I can't remember the last time I felt ready to "make art!" I probably won't buy any Genesis 8 products for a few months.

    If I had $200 I'd probably buy a large TV for my bedroom or something like that. If a coffee grinder makes you happy, buy one!

     

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Whichever you think you'll use more.

    I only drink espresso and cappuccino, but don't grind my own. I did consider it at one time but figured it wouldn't get used enough.

    ... So I'd be tempted with the M8, but I would wait until there are some offers. :)

  • Breville SmartGrinder Pro obviously. Caffeine is life.

  • I don't drink coffee and I don't use G8 so I would stay away from both and get some G2 stuff instead ;)

  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,949

    Get the grinder.

  • AscaniaAscania Posts: 1,855

    Perhaps both.  Perhaps neither.  Perhaps something else.

    1) Maybe buy a cheap blade coffee grinder.  Here's one.  They also work well as a spice grinder.  Some will tell you that a burr grinder is the way to go, and they may be right.  But I maintain that if you can detect a difference in result, then you are entirely too sensitive and delicate for this world--and consequently have problems no coffee grinder yet made can do much about.  Similar argument contra the anal- retentive (not to be judgmental)* need to control grind fineness with rocket scientist precision.

    Heretic! Only a burr grinder gives you enough control to provide the correct grind for espresso or french press. A blade grinder could never do that. Neither could Michael 8.

  • srieschsriesch Posts: 4,241
    Granville said:

    hahaha!  TurboSquid has what visually appears to be that exact model for about $44.  Much cheaper!  but... you won't be able to get any actual coffee ground, just virtual coffee.  Caffine free though!

     

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735

    I have both M8 and a coffee grinder! M8 is by Daz, and my coffee grinder is by Cuisinart.  I love both of them!

    https://www.cuisinart.com/products/coffee_makers/DBM-8/

     

     

  • This is a no-brainer for me: the grinder. I've done a comparison between the same beans ground with a cheap blade grinder and a burr grinder. The burr grinder was not subtly better, it was radically superior. Michael 8 is only somewhat better than Michael 7, and he'll get cheaper, while the burr grinders will stay about the same price.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    I would buy Mike, but by the same token...

    It IS coffee....

    Hmmm....decisions, decisions ;)

    Laurie

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,616

    Buy the Grinder.

    I have been trying to install the software for EIGHT hours.

    Can't find a damned thing.

    If I had a coffee grinder,I could at least stay up a little longer.

  • PetraPetra Posts: 1,156

    I would go for the grinder or Michael 7.

    G8F and G8M disappoint.

    At least with the coffee grinder, you can produce something enjoyable

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