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That made doubtless shit DAZ that we have programmers of talent, I know, they are (DAZ) salesmen and not creators, but a program like Carrara must make them shade intensely.
It is certainly the reason for which they do not want to give it to someone else…
About this new plugin, I'm ready to leave Realflow if it works!
Truthfully this plugin (in development) probably needs its own thread. Too many people will see the title and skip this one, not realizing there's a super cool fluid sim that Alberto is working on making a plugin for Carrara.
I really do think that Carrara can indeed be developed just by plugins. There's very few barriers left for Carrara, thanks to all these great plugins.
Thank you, Philemo!
And yes, because of use of openCL, this simulator is fast.
Like this?
https://youtu.be/4H3HBhPPkbk
Yes, you read that right !
Wow! Man this is going to be epic!
And this really, really needs it's own thread. Blender will try to steal the credit lol :)
Thank you, UnifiedBrain!
I think the same... plugins could somehow "upgrade" Carrara.
Carrara don't deserve to die.
You're right. This needs its own thread. Later, when the work is more advanced, I will open one.
Ryan Guy's simulator has some advantages over Blender's one, e.g. it's faster. I'm trying to take the more features of the simulator to Carrara.
Wendy, Dudu, Dartanbeck and Diomede, thank you for your words !
Wow!
Alvin, That is amazing...I truly wish you the best in implimenting this.
I have been wishing for fluids in Carrara for many years & hoped that Pycloid would be the answer. Unfortunately, I had unsavable Carrara lockups whenever I adjusted the Pycloid settings too many times.
As a note: One problem I have had with every try on fluids or particles in Carrara is when a moving object collides with the fluid, the fluid would ignore the changes in the moving object.
Examples: A boat moving across a sea, A rock skipping across a pond, a spoon stirring a drink.
I will definately be following this discussion and watching for it's thread.
A good fluid sim is one of the few missing things in Carrara, especially if you include the plugins already available. I applaud your work and can't wait to try it out!
agreed
Brilliant - Really needed in Carrara = what are simulation/render times ?
Could objects float on it - boats, debris etc ?
terrific work Wendy - and terrific news Alberto!
The plugin can do it. Thank you!
https://youtu.be/UlXceO4WOaE
Well, render times are longer that simulation. This is because:
1. Shaders with transparency and reflection
2. The complexity of the result: the baked simulation is saved externally and is read and reconstructed frame by frame during rendering. Diffuse material (bubbles, spray, foam), if allowed, are somehow slow to be rendered. But this is relative. None of the videos I showed took more than a minute by frame rendering.
My computer has a simple Nvidia GeForce GT 220 (the simulator uses OpenCL), and a typical time of frame simulation is 20 s or less.
About the interaction of solids with fluid: the Guy's simulator actually works with static solids, but it somehow let the user to "move" the solid and the fluid reacts to this change. But the solid isn't aware of the fluid, so it don't react to fluid movement. I have an idea about how to achive this task inside the plugin, but, for the moment, neither the plugin nor the simulator physically act on the solids.
Thank you!
Thanks, also, to Phil, Magaremoto and head wax for their words.
Will you offer a Mac version? I hope so!
From the sound of it, any limitations will be well worth living with. Let me know if you need a beta tester.
Count me in as a beta tester also.
This will be a great addition to Carrara!
Alberto,
Thanks for the video on reaction with moving objects.
I forgot to mention that cyclopstriches are allergic to water.
That is an amazing fluid animation. Congratulations, Alberto. What an honor to have one of my silly creatures in a test animation. Thank you.
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Bravo!
Thanks for the info Alberto - really look forward to experimenting with this.Didn't expect any magic with rendering times but what you have indicated is very acceptable and of course every scene different depending on complexity.
thank you for working on this
cheers
just wow... gosh and a well stuff me!
Oops! Sorry, Diomede!
Thank you for your cyclopstrich, it's a very likable creature.
I'll try... Philemo has kindly offered me to try building the Mac version.
Thank you, I appreciate your offer !
You're welcome !
Thank you, Dartanbeck!
Thank you, Stezza!
By the way, your image remembers me Carrara SDK sometimes...
Can't wait fot this! Amazing job!
thirsty!
Looks amazing, exactly what I needed!
Just a question: the fluid simulations can be set to "stick" on a figure? It's a life I'm trying to find a way to have water droplets running on a girl rising from water or a jet of blood stain a wall! (sorry for gruesome request!
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FYI: Both of those should be achievable already
Particle emitter - use the figure as the object emitter in the emitter settings. In the case of the peson coming out of water, use metaball as the particle type - or even Facing Camera for just a trans-map solution - and set the gravity just right for the downward flow you need, along with object friction and such. I've never tried it, but it feels doable in my mind.
Animated Shaders - I've experimented with making a very low-res test - I used the texture maps of V4 and used a rainfall plugin in Howler to turn the texture map into an animation with water droplets moving down the map. It was just a quick test to see if it would work - and it did. I just used Operations > Add to add the color, highlight, and bump avi files to the current shader for the V4 figure. For my simple test, however, I started in Howler by reducing the image maps to a much smaller size. The thing that didn't work right is that my rain plugin doesn't have a way to warp the flow, but I think Howler, itself, does have a way to facilitate that. But since my rain plugin just ran the rain straight down the map, it didn't fllow the shape of the body curves properly. With more time and effort doing the same thing again, I would use my own, hand-drawn selections to run the plugin on to get the droplets flowing properly.
Blood splats would be an easy exercise using basic cartoon animation techniques. The blood through the air could be particles or even stock footage in post (or even directly in the render), then just run the animated splat in the shader of the wall ;)
I already tried everything you suggested... Results are very good on static objects or simply movements, but comes really bad when involving complex movements or chars.
Sorry for the delay in answering, Imago. But I didn't want to give you a negative answer, because the original simulator don't implements sticking in solids.
I was working last days in adding a trick to do something similar: a "surface force" in solids. This surface force is a feature I have planned to implement, previously, but as a repulsive force. Well, it works as an attractive force too.
This is an example:
https://youtu.be/yJkERwfxCew
Thank you!
Looks like you are performing wonders with this!
Awesome work!
This is exactly I meant! Absolutely perfect!
I hope it can work on chars as well!
I can't wait to see it work on my Carrara!
Dumb question: Any idea on when, where and how it will be available to us Mortals? And how much you will charge for it?
Thanks!