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Hate to sound like a complete noob, but I got this set b/c you sold me on fast and 3DL and use stuff I already had LOL. I can't find the instructions that are mentioned. This is why I hate the IM b/c I can't find stuff like I used to in true zip files. Anywho. How do I find the instructions, please. If you can give me the file name I can probably just search for it. Thanks. Can't wait to try this!
...so been referred here, For 3DL does this require use of an HDR envvironment (most of which are UE based) or will it work with full geometry sets, skydomes, as well as AoAs Distant and Spotlights?
So IBL Master solves a bug with UE2... but we have to add UE2 bounce light still, right?
Got you. Finding the intructions is a problem for a lot of folks. That's why I've put the instructions on 3 plane props that you can load into the viewport to read. You can find them in the same place that you load IBL Master from ( in My Library > Props > Parris > IBL Master). I got the idea from ThePhilosopher.
Depends. Did you see my answer to your questions on page 4 of this thread?
Hi Parris,
Many thanks for your prompt reply.
There is a Mac installer, but I always do a manual install of files so I know where everything goes and can subsequently be found.
I was not aware that the items in folder (2 of 2) had to go into the main program directory, and thanks to your instructions, I have now placed them all correctly, and all the IBMLight settings for 3delight are showing exactly as your instructions show. So the problem was of my own creation.
(sorry)
This is a brilliant product, and I left a comment to that effect earlier in the appreciation thread that is currently running in the Commons forum.
My kindest regards, and wishing you and your family a very happy new year.
Wow, thank you! Appreciation thread sounds cool. I'll see if I can find it.
Actually, I've been devloping algorithms to do just that. Don't want to get too OT here, but in some ways they are superior to traditional HDRI (ease of creation/editing, lack of noise, etc.). The only lightsource in these images is an HDRI created from standard 8-bit images (3 from stitched screencaps I took in game, and the other from stitched photos I took myself in the woods):
While I've got you here, one thing that has always bugged me about HDRI in Iray is the amount of light they throw on objects in the scene compared to how bright the BG is rendered. When using your product with 3DL, can these 2 things be controlled independently?
- Greg
Wow, really cool. I didn't know you could do that. Awesome!
Yes, I address that problem specifically. Please see the first posts and store page for details as I'm running out of breath.
Thanks for getting back so quickly, and sorry I missed that . . . sold!
- Greg
ETA: I am so looking forward to being able to render animals with my own custom designed hairs in HDRI environments in 3DL!
Holy !@#$%^&, yes. I would love to see what you end up doing.
Thank you! My directories are a bit off from everyone else's in part I think to how I had stuff set up in Daz 3. I found them though. Yay!
Yeah the catalyzer for LAMH did wonders for addressing the fact that Iray doesn't handle curves, but only works on AM's presets. I know I'm not the only person who will be all over this for that reeason alone.
Bought and DLed. Now I need to find some time to sneak away and play without landing myself in the doghouse lol.
Cheers!
- Greg
Oh, and I just realized that I'll be able to render out a proper depth pass from my custom shaders/scripts that supports transparency for use in post (and the displacements will actually match since they're both be rendered in 3DL). Oh happy days!
I know I've already said it, but I'm very much looking forward to your future work in 3DL going forward.
- Greg
OK. I'm back. Got my new backup drive set up and backing up DAZ Studio content ....
In the mean time I loaded up the file. Here is a screen grab. You can see on the left side there is transforms of the selected scene bit of the IBL Master. The HDR is a cliff beach scene. There's actually plenty of flat land for Tina to be on but as you can see she's floating quite a bit. I went ahead and kept moving the dome until it looked like her feet would touch ground and they did according to the render but the entire back or foreground is blurry and curved so that's no good either. Just want to understand what I should do in getting a more crisp, realistic look out of this.
Hi, I'm using Studio 4.9.4.122 with Window 7 64 bit.
I just downloaded the promo video, and hope that helps, because I download manually & work exclusively offline as I have no internet access in the remote area where I live. (A sixty mile roundtrip journey to get in and see why what's not happening isn't.)
I have IBL Master installed, including the second folder script and shader folders in my Studio4 main directory. They are correctly installed. I followed the simple included plane instructions, but I am very confused with the result.
I load the IBL Master prop, then load an Iray preset HDR. Rotating the control sphere has no effect at all on the actual rotational position of the hdr. I thought that was a major point of the product, so I could see what was happening with the hdr by looking at the control sphere. I can see the hdr image on the control sphere, but the image rotation in the control sphere does not correlate with the hdr image rotation position that renders. Rotating the control sphere has no effect at all on the rotation position of the hdr. Nothing. Tried several hdr-only quick renders. What renders, in terms of rotation, is not what the control sphere is showing me.
Even tried rotating the hdr manually in render settings but that has no effect at all on the image projected onto the control sphere. Again, no correlation between the Iray enviroment and the control sphere.
In other words, there is no "accurate realtime 3d preview" at all happening, and that can't be right. According to the promo video, which I just watched, there is supposed to be.
So what is happening? The install was very simple. Don't see that I might have messed that up. Is there a possible open cl/gl issue, like a particular version required? Some setting somewhere? I have no difficulty doing Iray renders, though cpu only. Having that, is there some other hardware/software requirement?
(I won't bother asking what those vari-colored targets on the ontrol sphere are about at this point, except they may be connected to the Lights?)
I hope this can be sorted out. The real time preview was THE main selling point for me. Bummer indeed.
...maybe I should rephrase my question. For 3DL, does IBL Master create it's own indirect and bounce lighting that can be used with the Advanced Distant and Spot Light, or do I need to use an HDR environment, which is usually are UE based, for it to work? I rarely use UE because of the extremely long render times (similar to Iray in CPU mode).
I also tend to build my scenes with geometry and skydomes or photo backdrops rather than use pure HDR environments (in either 3DL or Iray) as I couldn't see how the sphere was oriented and had to waste time performing numerous test renders to get it positioned where I wanted it.
Product is in the cart but haven't clicked "Checkout" yet.
DS 4.10
Used DIM to install
This is also my problem when using IBL master what I see in the viewport is not what is rendering.
Very sorry to hear you're having problems. First thing is you need to be running 4.10 or newer. Also sounds like the scripts that do remote control are not running. What a drag! And of course no internet access complicates things from a technical support perspective (though please bare in mind that technical support is officially Daz's part). There is a chance here that what you need help with is beyond the capabilities of a PA, so please don't forget you have a 30 days to return this. But I will help if I can. Can you upgrade to 4.10 at this time? We need to start from there.
Well. So annoying. I have 4.10, didn't install it because the major upgrade seemed to be dForce, which my laptop can't support the open cl version dForce requires.
Unless someone else has some input on this, like Parris maybe, and why the promo page says 4.10 recommended, not "required," I'll go for the refund.
I'm using 4.10 and have internet access and used DIM to install is there any reason why I may be having problems.
Sorry should have mentioned this is rendering in Iray
The images help, thank you. To keep things synced, you should be transforming IBL Master Control, and not the 3DLEnvSphere, but I understand you may have done that to try and remedy things. As far as I can tell though the HDRI you are using is very distorted (maybe not equirectangular?) and the shadows it is producing are weak because of the type of HDRI. In general, if you have a bright sun in a cloudless sky, and if the HDRI creator has given it the right dynamics, then you will get crisp shadows. Blurred, cloudy, or inadequate dynamic range will produce weak or blurry (soft) shadows. Iray, IBL Master, or other IBL shaders cannot fix this. You need a better HDRI for the purpose you want to achieve. If the shadows are too dark, on the other hand, you can control that in the light settings for the IBLMLight. I hope that helps.
So is this suppose to work in Iray or not - I can get correct results in 3dl but not Iray?
same installer issue with Win... 3 files are provided:
IM00048959-01_IBLMasterforDazStudio.zip - 1,549 KB
IM00048959-01_IBLMasterforDazStudio1of2.zip - 1,565 KB
IM00048959-02_IBLMasterforDazStudio2of2.zip - 23KB
the 2of2 zip manifest file contains pathing like this "VERSION="4.5;4.x Private Build;4.x Public Build" ACTION="Install" TYPE="DAZ Studio" VALUE="DAZ Studio_4.5;4.x Private Build;4.x Public Build" and fails in DIM...
Would not one installer file be better?
I bought this today, and am starting to play with it in 3dl.. Some tutorials would be most useful...
Thanks
Harold
Absolutely it works in Iray. I don't have enough information from what you are telling me to know what is wrong, though. Can you show me Iray Render Settings > Environment? Can you show me a render? If you rotate the IBL Master Control prop on the Y, does the value change for Ground Origin Y? This should be easy to use but it is still a complex bit of machinery. So figuring out what is wrong for you may not be so easy. I'm willing to help though if you can be patient with me. Thanks.
Wow! We are making you work for your money! You thought it was hard just making the product, lol!
I'm in for one, looking forward to trying it! Good job on the video!
Besides being a directional controller, this is an IBL light. So it replaces UE. Use of the HDRI as a background is optional. This is new technology, so it is way faster than UE, as well as doing specular, other features that UE can't, etc. Maybe this image will help?
I notified Daz and it looks like they already got rid of the redundant installer (IM00048959-01_IBLMasterforDazStudio.zip - 1,549 KB). I think the two installers might be necessary because the light shaders get installed elsewhere (not sure).
You can find a lot of tips, short tutorials, and step by step instructions in this thread, the video, and the instruction plane props that are in the same directory as IBL Master. Just doubleclick to load. Some good information on the store page too. Be sure to look at the promos that are screenshots and demonstrations. If you have un answered questions, please let me know. I will do what I can. I really want IBL to be easy for everybody.
If you are concerned about upgrading, then try the BETA 4.10 instead. You can have the beta installed right along side your regular version of Daz. In fact, I still have 4.8 installed because I still use it some. I only used 4.9 (and now 4.10) in the beta. This has not posed a problem for me other than a few plugins not working in the beta. But dforce, iray upgrades, and scripts all run like they should. And this way you can safely test to see if 4.10 will run on your laptop.