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Where is the D-Force manual so I can RTFM

Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,519
in Daz Studio Discussion

I want to read the funny manual for D-Force so I will know what I am doing and not ask stupid questions because I did not RTFM?

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

     ↑↑↑ sticky thread  

     



    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/203081/dforce-start-here

  • DrNewcensteinDrNewcenstein Posts: 816

    The sticky thread provides a technical overview, but no real hands-on "to achieve X, perform Y" instruction. Hit me up if you have questions the sticky thread either doesn't cover adequately or takes too long to get to.

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,519
    edited December 2017
    DrNewcenstein said:

    The sticky thread provides a technical overview, but no real hands-on "to achieve X, perform Y" instruction. Hit me up if you have questions the sticky thread either doesn't cover adequately or takes too long to get to.

    I got this far in trying to figure it out.

    edit to add another screenshot of the issue.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,322
    Miss Bad Wolf said:
    DrNewcenstein said:

    The sticky thread provides a technical overview, but no real hands-on "to achieve X, perform Y" instruction. Hit me up if you have questions the sticky thread either doesn't cover adequately or takes too long to get to.

    I got this far in trying to figure it out.

    edit to add another screenshot of the issue.

    What video card/GPU do you have? What CPU?

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,519
    edited December 2017
    Richard Haseltine said:
    Miss Bad Wolf said:
    DrNewcenstein said:

    The sticky thread provides a technical overview, but no real hands-on "to achieve X, perform Y" instruction. Hit me up if you have questions the sticky thread either doesn't cover adequately or takes too long to get to.

    I got this far in trying to figure it out.

    edit to add another screenshot of the issue.

    What video card/GPU do you have? What CPU?

    hmmm not sure but I am trying to figure out ASAP

    edit: is this the CPU info you wanted?

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  • DrNewcensteinDrNewcenstein Posts: 816

    You might have to download and install the Intel OpenCL drivers to use the CPU for dForce. If that's a laptop, it should have either an Nvidia or AMD GPU (Graphics Processor), and should be capable of OpenCL 2.1, which dForce requires. There should have been an error stating the OpenCL kernels weren't compiled the first time you ran the simulation. If you don't let it compile the kernels, you can't play with it.

     

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,322

    Yes, that CPU should be supported by the intel OpenCL drivers - it's linked from the https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/203081/dforce-start-here#latest thread.

  • alexhcowleyalexhcowley Posts: 2,392
    Richard Haseltine said:

    Yes, that CPU should be supported by the intel OpenCL drivers - it's linked from the https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/203081/dforce-start-here#latest thread.

    Richard,this

    I tried running this and got the attached error message.  My set up pc has motherboard graphics, rather than a GPU.  If I understand the message correctly, I have to uninstall the graphics driver for the motherboard before I can install Open CL. I am reluctant to do anything this drastic, since the motherboard is about four or five years old and I don't have copies of the other drivers.

    Cheers,

    Alex.

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  • PadonePadone Posts: 3,778
    edited January 2018

    The best way for intel is to use the DSA so it does everything by itself. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html

    If you have a nvidia card you should be fine with the latest drivers too. Unless the card is Fermi or below that only supports OpenCL 1.1. For example 800M 820M notebook cards are Fermi. So it doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be an old card.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,322
    DrNewcenstein said:

    You might have to download and install the Intel OpenCL drivers to use the CPU for dForce. If that's a laptop, it should have either an Nvidia or AMD GPU (Graphics Processor), and should be capable of OpenCL 2.1, which dForce requires. There should have been an error stating the OpenCL kernels weren't compiled the first time you ran the simulation. If you don't let it compile the kernels, you can't play with it.

    I assume that's a typo for OpenCL 1.2

  • DrNewcensteinDrNewcenstein Posts: 816

    Brain fart

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,519

    I am unable to compile the OpenCl for some unknown reason.  Is there a way to compile it outside of Daz?

  • DrNewcensteinDrNewcenstein Posts: 816

    https://ark.intel.com/products/29760/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-T7300-4M-Cache-2_00-GHz-800-MHz-FSB

    This doesn't state OpenCL capability. Does dForce require hyperthreading?

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,519

    Okay I did a system wipe and a reinstall.  Now trying it out again.

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,519

    Did a new computer purchase and now trying it out again.

  • DrNewcensteinDrNewcenstein Posts: 816

    Good luck. Holler if you need more help.

  • Silver DolphinSilver Dolphin Posts: 1,614

    I feel your pain. I always read the manual first! When I first purchased Lightwave I read the manual and the light turn on (In my mind anyway). Unforturnatly, it takes a dedicated programmer to write a manual and Daz may not want to do this as they are giving the software away for free. Most of us just flounder around in the dark and push buttons until something works or they annoy enough people on the forums that someone takes pity on them and lets them know how to flip the light switch to the on position to see inside the dark room. Sorry to sound so negative but this is something that has been asked for many times and the answer is a resounding NO. There is a sort of daz wiki but if you search it is full of holes. So good luck in your search for enlightenment.

    ~from a fellow traveler in the dark deeps of Daz studio.

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752
    Miss Bad Wolf said:

    I want to read the funny manual for D-Force so I will know what I am doing and not ask stupid questions because I did not RTFM?

    Check this thread -> https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/208141/how-to-use-dforce-creating-a-blanket-draping-clothes-on-furniture-and-much-more because it's about as close as You can get to a manual for dForce.

  • IDontWantAGalleryIDontWantAGallery Posts: 16

    Yeah, even compared to the old daz dynamic cloth plugin, dforce is not a winner.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,322
    IDontWantAGallery said:

    Yeah, even compared to the old daz dynamic cloth plugin, dforce is not a winner.

    Because it doesn't have a formal manual. which is the topic of this thread?

  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631
    IDontWantAGallery said:

    Yeah, even compared to the old daz dynamic cloth plugin, dforce is not a winner.

    not true

    or tell why

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,519

    Is it possible to turn Poser Dynamic cloth into DForce outfit?

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752
    Miss Bad Wolf said:

    Is it possible to turn Poser Dynamic cloth into DForce outfit?

    Dynamic cloth seems (!) to usually (!) work pretty well with dForce.

  • OpenStoryOpenStory Posts: 31
    I have a GeForce drive for my computer and every since it updated, my dforce applications are crashing. Anyone know what's going on with dforce. No problems before this. Thanks
  • WillowRavenWillowRaven Posts: 3,787
    IDontWantAGallery said:

    Yeah, even compared to the old daz dynamic cloth plugin, dforce is not a winner.

    I'm struggling to make the switch from DCC to dforce, too. To me, the DCC tool is much easier to control. And so far, the two 'master' tutorials I bought are absolutely no help.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,322
    jennifermkillby said:
    I have a GeForce drive for my computer and every since it updated, my dforce applications are crashing. Anyone know what's going on with dforce. No problems before this. Thanks

    Updated what - DS or the driver?

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