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List of improvements for dForce

IsaacNewtonIsaacNewton Posts: 1,300
in Product Suggestions

On the offchance that the devs of dForce are NOT all-knowing, it might be an idea to make a list of improvements the we, the users, would like to see in the next release.

I would start off with a couple of items:

1) A one click button to convert the simulation shape in the current frame to a morph.

2)The possibility to run a simulation on two objects at the same time, so that they can interact naturally together. eg a shirt and a skirt.

Please feel free to add to this list, perhaps the devs will see it eventually.

Comments

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,030

    2) should already be possible using the layer setting. 1) could probably be handled already, with a script.

    The proper way to makerequests is via a support ticket, though there's nothing wrong with discussing the ideas in the forum first.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,142
    edited January 2018

    Is there a web site with the sort of cloth & material variables and cofficients we should be using with dForce? I know they will be inaccurate and need adjusting according to model mesh density and topology but it would be nice to have some table of ballpark restraints to use, i.e. silk cloth is less stiff than denim. That is so completely vague though. Seems like a table of ratios or percentages for the dForce parameters is needed. Or is this sort of thing with 3D modeled cloth properties in 3D physics simulations 100% new to DAZ Studio?

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,030

    The parameter names are mostly similar to those in Marvellous Designer, so you might see how values for that worked - but of course same name doesn't mean same behaviour.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,142
    Richard Haseltine said:

    The parameter names are mostly similar to those in Marvellous Designer, so you might see how values for that worked - but of course same name doesn't mean same behaviour.

    Thanks, I'll look.

  • IsaacNewtonIsaacNewton Posts: 1,300
    edited January 2018
    Richard Haseltine said:

    2) should already be possible using the layer setting. 1) could probably be handled already, with a script.

    The proper way to makerequests is via a support ticket, though there's nothing wrong with discussing the ideas in the forum first.

    Richard, do you know of a tutorial which might explain how to achieve this (step 2)? When I try to follow one simulation with another, the first simulation is wiped. (Example: simulate two pieces of clothing on two different characters in the same scene.)

    I have to admit that writing a script to do this is probably beyond my limited programing skills. Moreover, the idea of having to write a program (a script) to run a program seems a bit crazy when the original program could easily have the "script program" incorportated in it by the professional programmers.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,030

    You said at the same time - so that would be giving the top item a higher layer value (in the Surfaces pane). If you want to run sequentially you can select the item you simulated first and in the Parameters pane select Freeze Simulation.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,030
    IsaacNewton said:
    I have to admit that writing a script to do this is probably beyond my limited programing skills. Moreover, the idea of having to write a program (a script) to run a program seems a bit crazy when the original program could easily have the "script program" incorportated in it by the professional programmers.

    There are many "little" functions that would be nice to have, and however easy this one may be (and not having tried to script it I don't know that it would be, it just looked possible on the face of it) they would rapidly swamp the developers. Where they are simple, and scriptable, then leaving them to the community is probably the most effective approach. Maybe, since we are in Product Suggestions, a PA will see this thread and write the script.

  • IsaacNewtonIsaacNewton Posts: 1,300

    So, how do the developers decide which feature to work on out of the many which could be added; unless we, the clients, give them a list of our favourites? Or do they just work on the features they find interesting?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,030

    I imagine they weigh many lists - though it wouldn't usually be the developers as such actually making the decisions.

  • IsaacNewtonIsaacNewton Posts: 1,300
    Richard Haseltine said:

    I imagine they weigh many lists - though it wouldn't usually be the developers as such actually making the decisions.

    Again, how can they (whoever makes the decisions) weigh the wishes of clients if they never hear from the clients? Or doesn't it really matter much what the clients want?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,030

    I'm not aware of any suggestion that they don't want feedback - if you want to make a feature request do so. I was merely pointing out that even if you are right about your request being "easy" there are a lot of potentially useful, perhaps easy feature requests and they won't all be addressed.

  • Daywalker DesignsDaywalker Designs Posts: 3,586
    I think they do a lot to help people add features by integrating any new features they add into the plug-in SDK and scripting engine.
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