How to Export as FBX with the highest subdivision level

frewinspam

Im trying to export to C4D for redshift render but when i open it up in C4d the model is pretty low poly. Is there a way to export my FBX at the highest Subdivision level so it retains all detail?

 

i've been following this tutorial just for reference: 

Singular3D

Well, you only get the low poly model via FBX. There is a trick to get a hires version of the mesh, but the weight map stays at low poly, so only a portion of the vertices follow the bones.

frewinspam

Singular3D said:

Well, you only get the low poly model via FBX. There is a trick to get a hires version of the mesh, but the weight map stays at low poly, so only a portion of the vertices follow the bones.

is there a way to export teh daz model with all the posing contols/skeleton at the highest subD?

FSMCDesigns

frewinspam said:

Singular3D said:

Well, you only get the low poly model via FBX. There is a trick to get a hires version of the mesh, but the weight map stays at low poly, so only a portion of the vertices follow the bones.

is there a way to export teh daz model with all the posing contols/skeleton at the highest subD?

Not that I am aware of. Can always use it in Daz Studio though

DrNewcenstein

I think the interactive license might allow it, but I'm not sure. Probably not since the subD is Daz' proprietary thing.

Can C4D increase the resolution of the mesh?

FSMCDesigns

DrNewcenstein said:

I think the interactive license might allow it, but I'm not sure. Probably not since the subD is Daz' proprietary thing.

Can C4D increase the resolution of the mesh?

I highly doubt it  is a license issue, more of a Daz Studio feature/tech issue since DAZ figures are made to work perfectly within DS and exporting them in most ways is problematic. Yes, most high end apps have subdivision, but they can be picky on how it is implemented depending on the app. Ideally you can export as a .FBX, pose the figure and then subdivide it, but there is no telling how the native subd will react and if doing animation, that will probably not work.

Richard Haseltine

FBX doesn't, as far as I know, carry SubD - you have to apply it in the destination application. It also, logically, doesn't carry the equivalent of HD morphs though other applications can do similar things - I don't know about Cinema 4D.

If you wanted HD morphs I think you would need to export the shape (as OBJ, probably) and then import as a multi-resoultion morph/bendshape for the figure (brought in by FBX) in the destination application.

frewinspam

Richard Haseltine said:

FBX doesn't, as far as I know, carry SubD - you have to apply it in the destination application. It also, logically, doesn't carry the equivalent of HD morphs though other applications can do similar things - I don't know about Cinema 4D.

If you wanted HD morphs I think you would need to export the shape (as OBJ, probably) and then import as a multi-resoultion morph/bendshape for the figure (brought in by FBX) in the destination application.

:/ that's sad. Im only resorting to exporting because daz lacks any form of soft body dynamics/physics. Poser has had it for years, why the hell has it taken this long for daz to even think of it? Like literally daz would be a monter program if they had dynamic bullet physics or somethign similar where we can easily adjust the weight of for example a fat stomach to bounce around and deform as a hand punches it.

wolf359

"pose the figure and then subdivide it, but there is no telling how the native subd will react and if doing animation, that will probably not work."

Yes it will  work .
C4D's  "hyernurbs"SubD modifier is NON destructive
and wont break rigging 
nor change vertex count on low poly meshes being driven by Daz exported MDD files.

I Created some uber low poly "backgrounders" with the Daz decimator plugin  getting some G-1 figures down to under 3000 faces.
In C4D I can subdive them at a level of 2 and get them passably smooth looking as they run past the camera in the distance.

However with FBX rigs the biggest loss, During export, is the JCM's
 
Those DAZ to Maya users seem to have figured out a tedious, labor intensive way to use hires exported meshes as"blend shapes" etc
 and thus far all I have seen from them are single, naked  unmoving people in an empty universe
With their joints finally deforming  similar to Daz studio after much grocking.

I Generally have multiple Daz Genesis Characters in my scenes and dont have time for such manual restoration of some  video game res FBX rig in my rendering app,
which is why I use an obj/MDD pipeline with resolution of my choice
preserved during export from Daz.

FSMCDesigns

Thanks Wolf. I was speaking generally and not singling out C4D. Of the 4 apps I use that have subdivision, each one reacts differently for some odd reason, kinda like FBX, LOL

frewinspam

Is there any proper way to export HD morphs from daz? fbx doesnt do it, alembic doesnt do it. I want my veins from vascularity to be exported :(

FSMCDesigns

Didn't you already ask this and get the answers? https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/3427951/

I know it's frustrating, had similar experiences getting content into Max, but I learned to do it in DS instead and it saved me a ton of headaches. Maybe time to learn to model since you are using a modeling app.

WendyLuvsCatz

I am pretty sure Alembic does

Richard Haseltine

Merged threads.

th3Digit said:

I am pretty sure Alembic does

Yes, Alembic (and mdd) export a vertex cache so they include the HD details - however they don't include any rigging information, it is simply a list of vertex movements.

gradynelson

Is there a reason nobody recommended Daz to Blender plugin? It can export shapekeys, animation and level 3 subd. You can export it from Blender to anywhere.

Gordig

gradynelson said:

Is there a reason nobody recommended Daz to Blender plugin? It can export shapekeys, animation and level 3 subd. You can export it from Blender to anywhere.

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