Victoria 4/Michael 4 Teens?

EightiesIsEnoughEightiesIsEnough Posts: 1,110
edited May 2018 in Daz Studio Discussion

Does anybody know if there is any way to do a full body morph in Victoria 4 or Michael 4 to look like a teen, almost similar to the Growing Up morph for Genesis 3?

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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,692

    There's no pack similar to Growing Up that I know of, but it's totally possible to create a teen character from them.

    For V4, Stephanie 4 morphs help a lot to get a  younger character.

     

    Here are a few examples of character packs including a teen or young teen morph for V4, I'm sure there are others:

    https://www.daz3d.com/teen-ashley-character-and-hair

    https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/sabby-sisters-kimmi-amp-kyrsi/99725/

    https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/sabby-sisters-ii-carly-amp-chloe/101638/

    https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/p3d-sarah-and-serena/105446/

     

  • EightiesIsEnoughEightiesIsEnough Posts: 1,110

    I did download the Ashley character, as that is the cheaper of the four links you provided.

    Is there a link to the Stephanie 4 Morphs anywhere?  I couldn't find it, other than the magnets.

    Now all I need are the teen full body morphs for Michael 4 and I am all set.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,206

    the Kids 4 share the same mesh all the Millenium 4 characters are Unimesh so it is in fact possible to create morph targets between them and use their morphs on each other

    clothes can be fitted using transfer active morphs

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,692
  • EightiesIsEnoughEightiesIsEnough Posts: 1,110

    Regarding th3digit's post:

    Are there any magnets that can fit Victoria 4 clothing and hair onto Genesis 2 or 3 Female, and also magnets that can fit Michael 4 clothing onto Genesis 2 or 3 Male?

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,692
    edited May 2018

    No, there are no magnets sets for that. Magnet fit sets are used to add morphs, not to fit clothes to a totally different figure. You can use autofit for that.

    G1 has a clone for V4/M4, G2F for G1, G3F for G2F, and so on. So to go from V4 to G2F you could convert from V4 to G1, then convert the result from G1 to G2F.

    Or you could use clones to do it directly:

    V4 to G2F (also enables you to use V4 textures on G2F): https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-for-genesis-2-female

    M4 to G2M (also enables you to use M4 textures on G2M): https://www.daz3d.com/michael-4-for-genesis-2-male

    V4, M4 and others to G3F: https://www.daz3d.com/wear-them-all-autofitting-clones-and-clothing-smoothers-for-genesis-3-female-s

    V4, M4 and others to G3M: https://www.daz3d.com/wear-them-all-autofitting-clones-and-clothing-smoothers-for-genesis-3-male-s

     

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  • ByrdieByrdie Posts: 1,783

    Lyrra at Renderosity has products that will turn M4 & V4 into kids by adding a Child Dial morph. You can use as much or as little of it as you please and so get characters anywhere between Kids 4 age (preschoolers) and teenagers-young adults. But it only works in Poser 10 & up, far as I know.

  • EightiesIsEnoughEightiesIsEnough Posts: 1,110
    edited May 2018

    Lyrra's morph is not in the cards for me at this time.  But thanks for offering the suggestion.

    Regarding Leana's last reply in this thread, I did purchase three of the clones today, but I'd like to ask, how do i convert the V4 clothing to fit G2F and G3F (M4 to G3M)?  Are there any tutorials on how to do this?

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  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 3,581
    edited May 2018

    If you want to take a look at some of the stuff in my store, I have some young adult head morphs for M4 in Ashley International and Santo International for M4. You'll have to scale them down to whatever height (at the time I couldn't do much with that since Poser could not scale figures correctly from the base M4 like DS could.. which was one of the reasons I switched to genesis) . I see it's on sale probably until tomorrow on Fastgrab

    This was one of the older pics I made for with the Ashley set.

     

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  • murgatroyd314murgatroyd314 Posts: 1,516

    Jamminwolf over at Renderosity has a few V4 teen characters which are currently at 80% off - the sale ends today.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,692
    JonSea31 said:

    how do i convert the V4 clothing to fit G2F and G3F (M4 to G3M)?  Are there any tutorials on how to do this?

    It's quite simple once you have the clone. Here's an example with a V4 item and G2F:

    • Load your G2F figure. Select her in the scene.
    • Load the V4 item you want to use from the library.
    • If DS doesn't try to fit it automatically to G2F, select the clothing in the scene and use its "Fit to" parameter to do it.
    • When DS tries to fit that item to G2F autofit dialog should pop up and ask you what the source figure is, and what type of item it is. Select V4 and the type of item.
    • Your V4 item should now be fitted to G2F.
  • ChaosDrgnChaosDrgn Posts: 24

    I know it's a dead subject. Dodger at one time had some really nice AEON morphs for V4/M4 to take them to Teens and Kids.

    Below is 'Anna' in two V4 (one might be a V3) outfits I converted over to her. Since PoserPros is dead :( and he doesn't seem to be around anymore. He created them by using morphs and changing the joints so they'd behave more like teens.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,824

    ChaosDrgn said:

    I know it's a dead subject. Dodger at one time had some really nice AEON morphs for V4/M4 to take them to Teens and Kids.

    Below is 'Anna' in two V4 (one might be a V3) outfits I converted over to her. Since PoserPros is dead :( and he doesn't seem to be around anymore. He created them by using morphs and changing the joints so they'd behave more like teens.

    Which is how the Genesis figures work by design, adjsuting the joints to the shape (though they don't rework the weights the way the Aeon figures redid the falloffs).

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,040
    edited June 2022

    ...I was working to develop younger character since the Gen4 days.

    The Gen 3 ones had at best mediocre support and without some sort of an autofit tool,  clothing choices were very limited  Also clothing form the pre teens did not work on the MilTeens. and all adult clothing had to be converted using third party tools (which was rather hit and miss).

    Hence most of my work was done in Gen4.  I first tended to use some of Thorne's fey characters and reduce the eyes to look more human.  Thorne then came out with a character names Tommy for V4 which was a bit more petite and had a slightly younger look. I moved to that character a while using with a lot of careful morphing to get a more younger and lithe look when needed. Several of us worked together on a project loosely named "Lil' Vicky" to try and create a child character using growth charts and measurements.  It also involved having to morph individual limbs and region to get the correct proportions and not just have them look like miniature adults.    

    I considered the release of Stephanie4 a godsend particularly with the Natural Petite morphs which allowed for more accurate bust "reduction".

    Young male characters were a bit more problematic as most of the male skin textures included "baked in" body hair.

    Genesis made the whole process  much simpler particularly as there was a base child  and later with the introduction of the Young Teens' Julie and Justin.

    Below are a  few of my old Gen4 experiments. A number are still on the old 32 bit notebook I used back then.that has a flaky display

    Young male charaters were a bit more more porblematic as most of the skin textures included "baked in" body hair.

     

     

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  • ChaosDrgnChaosDrgn Posts: 24

    kyoto kid said:

     

    Young male characters were a bit more problematic as most of the male skin textures included "baked in" body hair.

     

     

    That's what I loved about Texture Converter when it came out, was able to do the kids textures without the body hair over to the others.

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