Anyway to get rid of the breast bone poke out thing?

I don't know what it's called, but part of the autofitting (or something) uses a bit of hidden geometry to smooth the area between the breasts, which makes sense for non-dForce clothes. But with smaller breasts and dForce, i'm getting horrible results. Is there a way to turn it off for simulation? The attached image shows the problem after running a dForce simulation in the base pose with default settings. 

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  • I've noticed that dForce sims sometimes produce dimples or other weird bumps that doesn't make sense based on the figure the clothes are matching to (see the shoulder area of the attached images—there's also a bit under the breast,which I think is resulting from the autofit breast fixer thing). The geometry is dense enough that I don't think it's a result of insufficient resolution. 

    A smothing modifier clear this up, but also gets rid of some "natural" wrinkling I'd like to keep.

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  • IsaacNewtonIsaacNewton Posts: 1,300

    As far as I understand, this artifact is a result of the rigging of the character. The Genesis ladies are made with big breasts, and big breasts is what they must have in their conformed clothing, or so it seems. Apparently, the morphs to produce smaller breasts do not cross over well in to clothing with the resulting ridge appearing in the middle of the chest as you have shown. I raised this issue with the Help desk quite a long time ago and got nowhere in solving it. The only way I have found to solve the problem is to use a third party mesh morphing program, like Zbrush, to make a morph on the clothing to counteract the chest bump. However, in some cases I found that the chest bump persists despite a counteractive morph on the clothing, as though some setting in the figure rigging was overriding the counteractive morph. This is a long standing issue (I'm talking about years) which should have been solved by now.

  • frankrblowfrankrblow Posts: 2,052

    Alternative ideas: use MALE shirts; use a clothing smoother (I use "Wear Them All", but there are others); or combine the different types.

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,903

    Depending on the generation you're working with, Zev0's Fit Control https://www.daz3d.com/fit-control-for-genesis-8-female-s or Sickleyield's Clothing Breast Helper https://www.daz3d.com/sy-clothing-breast-helper-genesis-8-female have morphs to deal with the chest lump, I think.

  • nomad-ads_8ecd56922enomad-ads_8ecd56922e Posts: 1,960
    edited May 2018

    I was actually running into a similar issue but going the other direction than your issue.  I was placing one of those body-chains things (decorative little golden chains that go over and around the body to look pretty, sorta like a necklace for the rest of the upper body) and the part of the chain that passes between the breasts was going INTO the body.  I twiddled it with one of those fix-the-pokethru dingdoodles and it seemed to fix it, though.  Yeah, clothes fitting can be a twiddly thing sometimes.

    edit: If anyone's curious, it was this outfit. :)  I suspect the issue I was having was due to my applying one of the youth morphs to the character, tho, which squashes the breasts a bit.

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