How to get the dogtags (V4/M4) work with Genesis ?

AndyS

Hi,

in the recent promo of Caine I see a nice dogtags necklace. What is it?
Really some time ago I got the dogtags for V4/M4. But I can't get them to work on Genesis 1,2,3,8. They get terribly deformed when I put them on the newer characters.
I have the necessary "++"-morphs installed and the characters are able to autofit clothing of the others.

What is the trick?

3Ddreamer

Don't Autofit them, parent them when you ave positioned them where you want. Other options is either create a Null to parent them to and move it around till you get the look you are after or Feralfey had a tool included in some of her most recent packs that you can use to adjust thing like necklaces as well. It isn't listed in the What's Includes but the folder is there when you install them. So check and see if you have any of her packs. I'm not on my DS computer just now to check the name, but it did come up in a thread in the forum about parenting Dogtags - Serene Nights Art Studio one, I think

https://www.daz3d.com/feralfey

Found it!

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/2761746/#Comment_2761746

AndyS

Sorry,

but I don't understand that with the "Null".
I simply parented it to the chest. The rest can be adjusted with the dogtag's morphes "Adjustments" and "Controls".
Not using the "Fit to" was the trick.

Thank's so far.

No I have to learn what it is with the "Null".

3Ddreamer

If you go to Create\New Null you get a crosshair at the World Centre of the scene and an entry in the Scene. Then you can move the Null to roughly the position, parent the dogtags to the Null and the adjust the position to fit the characters. you'd still need to adjust the chain to look natural, but the actual dogtag shouldn't bend to the chest.

Hope that helps.

AndyS

No sorry, I don't.

I get the dialog with different possibilities to base it on. That's all.
And I think, it's best to put it on chest or lower neck where it later should move with.

Or I'm completely lost.

3Ddreamer

You just need to click on Apply at that stage.

First picture is the null when it loads,

Second picture I have raised the null, parented the chain and dogtag and moved the Null and chain to the side to show what you can do. I hid Genesis while I placed the Null in position and parented the chain, just to see what I was doing. You can move and rotate the null to position the dogtags where you want with translation and rotation

AndyS

OK,

same effect I got to directly parent it to the character's neck/chest.

Using the Null neither direct parenting doesn't help the dogtag to follow the chain end (primary and secondary chain movement controls) and the chain to follow the character's chest-, neck-, shoulder moves.
And the chain does not nestle to the body surface.