Still looking for crowd themed HDRI
SnowPheonix
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One of my favorite HDRI sets in my collection is the Chicago rain sets...
https://www.daz3d.com/iradiance-pro-series-16k-hdris--rain-city-chicago
Would love to see some rainbows first off.. but I love the whole inside the city set creation.. but how about a set in daylight in the city and let's not be afraid to have other people and traffic in the far background.. Which brings me to 'sports themed'... hopefully somebody can go out at half time and take a few HDRI pictures of the audiance.. That way all of my sports players can be 'in the action'.. a hockey rink would be awesome too. Then a soccer fiedl and then mall with people in it off in the distance.. like when the malls first open and their are hardly any people in it.. "middle of the road" HDRI for driving scenes...
National monuments and land marks would be really cool too.. Oh.. and last but not least.. night scenes on rooftops and alley ways inside the city.. hopefully with nearby streetlights ...
Thank in advance
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That’ll be a tons of travelling for the HDRI creator, time to do crowdfund for them for tickets
What would be better is if several people just made HDRI's of their local community big and small.. it would be easy to go out on the field during halftime and take a HDRI that includes the audiance at the local sports arenas... and everybody has some kind of landmark near them.
But that needs expensive gear right? Like a fish eye camera/lens, knowledge of workings?
It would also require access, not necessarily going to be granted, and might well require releases at least from people close enough to be recognisable. Also, a lot of HDRIs are made from a sequence of exposures - you can#'t really expect an unpaid crowd to sit frozen in place, even for the brief tiem required; I don't know if fancy equipment exists that cane do the job in one click, but I would imagine if it does it's fearsomely expensive (essentially it would need to be a camera made of several cameras).
We can spend all our time talking about all the things that can't be done or we can find solutions but from midfield, that means at least 90 feet away from the crowd on a standard U.S. football field so nobody to recognize and the law acknowledges 'fair use' at all publicly accessed places, including landmarks. Otherwise we would have no "paparazzi".. so of course you can take pictures of people in public places.
I think the best way to do it is take a picture of the emty stage before the concert and then blend in the audiance one the concert started.. What do you think is the best way to put an audiance around your rock star?
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So any thoughts on how to provide our singers and players with a realistic looking audiance? Since you have such a strong opinion on what can't be done.. Whats the solution?
Fair use is quite limited, if for educational use or newsworth it applies, it is not fair use if it is going to be used as a paid product.
I would go with billboards. Maybe look if there is any resources in the architecture visualization field. Tyere are some websites dedicated to that. From a distance it should look alright.
Maybe even crowd sim software?
That would be my avenues to look into.
Fair Use law is targeted on copyrighted works of art, music mainly. Unless some laws have changed (which is, of course, possible) people out in a public place (on the street or such) do not require a release. You can publish a photo of a person or persons without permission...as long as you don't claim that they were doing something in particular that they were not doing, or wearing UnderArmor clothing (for example), or claim that they were engaging in an illegal or even legal activity that they were not engaged in. For example, you can't take a photo of a man and a teenage girl and claim that he was stalking her or molesting her , or that he did right after the photo was taken...unless there is proof that it is true. Now, if these people were in a private place, even though there were many people there and none of them owned said place, then you may need a release, from the people and also from the owner(s) of that private place. This might apply to a sports stadium that is commercial (Fenway Park for example). If it is a public park/playground, etc., then that falls under the public rules. This is to the best of my knowledge...which I learned when I was a photographer.
Dana
Actually the only 'expensive equipment' anybody needs is your standard smart phone with the proper application installed followed up by the knowledge of how to create the architecture to make it so you load it up in DAZ. So where you earn your money is "knowledge of workings' . You'll find great videos of it all over YouTube... for example:
