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Ears and animation...

Sport 3DSport 3D Posts: 71
in Technical Help (nuts n bolts)

Help!

I have issues when animating genesis3 / genesis8.

When I try to give life to the head with eye blinks, ears seams to loose their subdivision. They become edgy.

Not only in viewport but also in render.

Any idea?

Thank you very much for your help...

 

01genesis8.JPG
580 x 629 - 39K
animation.jpg
996 x 712 - 126K
ear.jpg
347 x 263 - 31K

Comments

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,792

    Which render engine are you uisng?

  • Sport 3DSport 3D Posts: 71

    Octane render.

    First I thougt that my orbx file was corrupt due to his size (more than 1Go) then I realised that this issue happened only when I tried to anime morphs.

    I fact, what I see in viewport, is what I get in octane render...When ears are not smoth in preview, issue happens in render...

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,792

    Does it also happen in 3Delight/Iray? You might check that the smoothing option iss till enabled for the ears' surface group, though I don't think that's it.

  • Sport 3DSport 3D Posts: 71

    I just made a quick test : indeed, everything's Ok with Iray render, ears are smooth...  :)

    It only happens in animations in octane, so strange! 

    Any idea to fix this issue with octane? Octane is so quick, it allows big scenes now.

    I don't see how to smooth the ears only...If I click on ear/surface/geometry/smoothing/ nothing happens.  Smooth is on, angle 89, round corner radius is at 0, but can't be changed...

    Thank you very much Richard...

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,792

    Sorry, I have no experience working with Octane.

  • Sport 3DSport 3D Posts: 71

    When eyes blink, I see this issue in viewport, in preview. Ears loose their smoothness.

    Is there any way to fix this in preview, so in octane too?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,792

    In the preview it's expected during manipulation, the default is to delay SubD until the slider is released. Whatever is happening with the ears is different as it is localised and persistent.

  • KitsumoKitsumo Posts: 1,216

    I remember reading in another post (that I can't find right now) that the Render SubD Level affects the output in Iray, but the View SubD Level affects the preview and any external render engines, like Octane. I'm not sure if that explains what you're seeing, but here's a similar post to the one I'm talking about https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/2583171/#Comment_2583171

  • Sport 3DSport 3D Posts: 71

    Richard : I think I ll make a post on otoy forum to see if someone has a solution to fix this issue.

    Thank you very much for your link Kitsumo : very interesting and helpfull! It  will help me to improve my renders...   :)

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,792

    Yes, the vlue in the viewport is what is exported to external renderers like Octane and LuxRender, but if it was simply that the SubD level was dropping I would expect blockiness elswhere - which I am not immediatelyt seeing in the screenshot. If it is affecting all areas of the figure with a relatively low poly count then that would be the root of the problem.

  • Sport 3DSport 3D Posts: 71

    Thank you very much for your help!

    Mys issue is not fixed yet but I progressed  in understanding animation workflow.

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