nudity standards
Ademnus
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I really dont understand that showing a render of a totally untextured model without any genitalia is considered nudity for the forums but that's the rule and so be it.
But unless that rule has changed, seeing textured breasts with erect nipples in a promo http://www.daz3d.com/new-releases/dark-cyreena-for-genesis-and-genesis-2-female-s seems an extreme double standard.
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The forum and store are 2 different entities while they do run under similar rules, but because you can't actually see nipple as in skin texture that image would be OK for the forums as well.
Only textured models or those with modelled genitals are considered breaking the rules.
...what gets me is we can have a promo advertised here for content that illustrates dismemberment but not one that celebrates the body as a whole.
....something wrong with that.
+1 (for what it can mean...)
I wonder if those who can't handle seeing such things have no mirrors in their bathrooms?
LOL!
I've also seen gory images removed for being gory. IMO renders themselves can never be too gory (I understand fake vs real). Now show me a live and in living color photo, that's another story.
Only textured models or those with modelled genitals are considered breaking the rules.
Incorrect in my experience.
I posted an untextured model with no genitalia, with black boxes covering the bits (just to be overly cautious) and the image was pulled and I was issued a warning.
And this was just a screen capture to show a default model pose.
Incorrect in my experience.
I posted an untextured model with no genitalia, with black boxes covering the bits (just to be overly cautious) and the image was pulled and I was issued a warning.
And this was just a screen capture to show a default model pose.
Strange. I've never had neutral gray models pulled, either.
Incorrect in my experience.
I posted an untextured model with no genitalia, with black boxes covering the bits (just to be overly cautious) and the image was pulled and I was issued a warning.
And this was just a screen capture to show a default model pose.
Your image was pulled because black bars are mentioned in TOS. You can't use them to cover nudity. More than likely your image would have been allowed without the bars.
How about orange bars, or if the character is holding the bars?
Incorrect in my experience.
I posted an untextured model with no genitalia, with black boxes covering the bits (just to be overly cautious) and the image was pulled and I was issued a warning.
And this was just a screen capture to show a default model pose.
Your image was pulled because black bars are mentioned in TOS. You can't use them to cover nudity. More than likely your image would have been allowed without the bars.
Why would the black bars matter though if the figure is in neutral gray anyways? I always thought the black bars were against TOS if used as a means of getting around nudity with a textured figure.
Any colour bars (or lozenges, or circles, or eldritch shapes the angles of which did not seem to add up to a full circle and which twisted and shifted at the edges of my vision). However, actual 3D bars, lozenges or eldritch shapes would be OK.
Your image was pulled because black bars are mentioned in TOS. You can't use them to cover nudity. More than likely your image would have been allowed without the bars.
Why would the black bars matter though if the figure is in neutral gray anyways? I always thought the black bars were against TOS if used as a means of getting around nudity with a textured figure.
I don't know. Maybe because the black bars implied that there was something to hide? After all, you can dial in nipples on the untextured figure, which I assume would violate the TOS. Just a guess though.
Any colour bars (or lozenges, or circles, or eldritch shapes the angles of which did not seem to add up to a full circle and which twisted and shifted at the edges of my vision). However, actual 3D bars, lozenges or eldritch shapes would be OK.
OK, thanks Richard for answering my slightly tongue in cheek question.
So for example 3d props are ok, such as a plank of wood, box of chocolates, hand fan or a jug on a table, as long as their not totally or partially transparent.
;)
Some months back I had asked why some product promos (S5, for example) showed bare buttocks when we can't post renders like that ourselves. The answer I got (I'm paraphrasing here) is that DAZ isn't constrained by the rules (they make them, after all) to the degree that we are. They will allow some types of exposure or gore in product promos that aren't otherwise allowed. I think the decisions are made on a case by case basis. I don't really have a problem with it, it's their store, they can do what they want with it.
Any colour bars (or lozenges, or circles, or eldritch shapes the angles of which did not seem to add up to a full circle and which twisted and shifted at the edges of my vision). However, actual 3D bars, lozenges or eldritch shapes would be OK.
Forgive me asking this, but what you are saying is: Any black or colored bars, or shapes (such as lozenges, or circles, or eldritch shapes the angles of which did not seem to add up to a full circle) that are 2D are disallowed... but rendering a nude figure with a 3D version of said black or colored shapes is okay?
I don't really do nude renders (well, I did render while nude once but thats a long story), but I'm just curious... initially I thought the black bars not being allowed was weird, but whatever... its a rule and that is that.
EDITED TO ADD- Sorry, I didn't notice that none01ohone had asked basically the same question.
Any colour bars (or lozenges, or circles, or eldritch shapes the angles of which did not seem to add up to a full circle and which twisted and shifted at the edges of my vision). However, actual 3D bars, lozenges or eldritch shapes would be OK.
...what about chocolate bars?
...what about chocolate bars?
No, because someone always eats them, and then we're back to square one...naked square one, that is.
I would be happy with no nudity exclusions, but having them, I actually think the slightly arbitrary no-2d bars, but 3d props allowed rule is a good rule.
It very straightforwardly and comprehensively excludes naked people with little glowing photoshopped stars over their bits like you might encounter at an adult site, but allows for something more or less along the lines of a woman draped in flower petals like the scene from American Beauty. Rules about what is tasteful are hard to make, and there's always going to be a line of judgement, but from what I've seen, this particular aspect of the exclusions works pretty well.
It ends up with odd cases where the black bars over an untextured figure gets pulled, where the image would have been fine without the bars... but if that's the reasoning, then not really a big deal. Post again without the bars. :)
And of course there is always the comedic way that one certain forum member highlighted the idea of having 3D props to conceal by having 3D tits, pussy and cock(eral) in a nude scene. :coolgrin:
That sounds like a Render Challenge!