Transfering Morphs/MATs from G3M to G8M

allendgroove

Hello. Not long ago I was reading some threads regarding this topic but I lost track of it. I'm still trying to transfer morphs and mats from g3m to g8m. Last time I checked, there was not a solid way to do this. Is there any status update?

Chezjuan

For the MATs,  I've not had a problem using the G3 MATs with my characters that I've moved to G8. The only thing I need to do, if I'm using smart content, is to remember to uncheck the filter box so it will show the G3 materials.

 

allendgroove

For some reason, when I apply my G3M character MATs to the brand new G8M one, some parts are displayed in white.

DDCreate

This might be the wrong way but I've had no problems with a G8F selected then just going to My Content and applying the skin from a G3F character. I was surprised to see it worked but I haven't hit any problems with it yet.

Richard Haseltine

allendgroove said:

For some reason, when I apply my G3M character MATs to the brand new G8M one, some parts are displayed in white.

Which areas? The eyes are a little different and you may have some issues there, but otherwise the UVs and surfaces should be compatible.

allendgroove

I'll soon make some screenshots. But what about the morphs? This is yet more important for my project.

allendgroove

So, this is what it looks like.

Chezjuan

What kind of morphs are you talking about using? Morph packs from the store, or specific characters like Lilith 7? If it is the former, it could be an easy task if you have the same package for both generations. 

In that case, you can do the following:

1. Load the Genesis 3 character
2. Go to File -> save -> Shaping preset and save the shape
3. Load the Genesis 8 Base Female
4. Apply the shaping preset you just saved to the G8 figure.

That should make the G8 character match the G3 character. I have the DAZ Genesis 3 Female Head and Body Morph Packs and their Genesis 8 versions and have transferred many of my custom characters to Genesis 8 using the above method. When I run into issues, it is because I've used morphs on the G3 character that I don't have a counterpart for in Genesis 8. For example, I made a character that is a cross between Bethany 7 and Lilith 7, and that will not transfer.

I know there is another process that lets you make a morph out of a character preset, which then could be used on Genesis 8, but it is above my skill level at this point, and I can't find the link to it at the momemt.

Chezjuan

allendgroove said:

So, this is what it looks like.

That looks like the materials you are transfering are from a character that uses a different UV map than the base. I believe that in Genesis 3, many of the characters have unique UV maps, but in Genesis 8, they all use the same UV (though I could be mis-remembering). What is the material package you are trying to apply to G8?

allendgroove

Chezjuan said:

allendgroove said:

So, this is what it looks like.

That looks like the materials you are transfering are from a character that uses a different UV map than the base. I believe that in Genesis 3, many of the characters have unique UV maps, but in Genesis 8, they all use the same UV (though I could be mis-remembering). What is the material package you are trying to apply to G8?

Yes, you're right, some of them have a specific UV set, that's why the result is not correct. In this case, what can I do?
As for the morphs, well, I think yesterday I managed to make my character, G8M look similar enough to the G3M version, except for the arms, they're a bit longer, I don't know why.

Leana

allendgroove said:

Yes, you're right, some of them have a specific UV set, that's why the result is not correct. In this case, what can I do?

DS includes a tool called "Map Transfer" which enables you to convert maps from one UV set to another (provided you have a figure supporting both UV sets). So you could use it to transfer the maps made for the specific UV set to G3 base UVs, and then use the transfered version on G8.

Chezjuan

A thought - is there a reason you need to transfer the characters to G8? G3 and G8 are similar enough that I find that I can use them interchangably in most cases. I bought the discobob/Zev0 Pose Converter and that gets any G8 poses I want to use close enough to G3 that I can finish it with minor tweaks. And SickleYield has a great tutorial for converting most clothing from G8 to G3 - it works about 90% of the time for the G8F clothing I have converted. You can find it at https://www.deviantart.com/sickleyield/journal/Tutorial-Convert-Clothing-G3-to-G8-G8-to-G3-686682065 ;

With those in my workflow I find that I can get the results I want about 90% of the time.

allendgroove

All I'm trying to do is to convert Kenji 7 to G8M, that's my aim. I don't know much, I'm just a newcomer, that's why I'm asking, what steps do you recommend me?

Chezjuan

I found the link I was thinking about. SickleYield has a tutorial that may work. https://www.deviantart.com/sickleyield/journal/Tutorial-Transferring-Character-Morphs-G1G2G3G8-409437916

 

allendgroove

I'll give it a try, thank you!

allendgroove

Well, regarding the UVs, I finally could do this thanks to the "Genesis 3 Character UVs for Genesis 8 Male" product, this provided me with the oportunity of using the Kenji 7 character's UVs in a G8M figure and then I could apply Kenji 7 all maps with no problem. As for the morphs, I used a small tutorial I read somewhere, the one using the Transfer Utility Tools, checking the UV spacing and favourited morphs options only. This might help any of you too.

However, now I remember I have a G2F character I wanna transfer too, I heard this is more difficult to do so. If you know something please let me know.