When Morphs don't transfer with GenX, HELP PLEASE!

Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
edited January 2014 in The Commons

Got this really cool morph that has fooled me that was made for V4. I tried transferring it to Genesis through GenX and it only partially worked. I say partially because it barely morphs Genesis. And when I load Genesis and V4 in the same scene with the morphs applied, Genesis looks nothing like the Morph I want.

On the old forums before the new ones came along, someone explained to me a way to save the morph from the 4th generation figures as an OBJ file then transfer it over to Genesis. His tricked worked. But since I have since lost that information (because it was on the old form and thus, lost forever), I need help once more.

Can anyone help me transfer this morph to Genesis please? GenX is simply not working for my needs here.

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  • Cayman StudiosCayman Studios Posts: 1,136
    edited December 1969

    You say it "barely morphs", so presumably something is happening. Did you set the correct Value Range during the transfer? Alternatively you could try changing the limits in the parameter setting of the transferred morph.

  • MBuschMBusch Posts: 547
    edited December 1969

    You can load Victoria 4 and apply the morph. Follow, export Victoria 4 with the morph applied as a Poser CR2 file. Now, in the Gen X's Transfer panel load the exported CR2 and make the transfer. This workflow always worked for me. Good luck!

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,096
    edited September 2013

    MBusch said:
    You can load Victoria 4 and apply the morph. Follow, export Victoria 4 with the morph applied as a Poser CR2 file. Now, in the Gen X's Transfer panel load the exported CR2 and make the transfer. This workflow always worked for me. Good luck!

    I do this too. Dial up the morph on V4, head, body or Both, Then export as OBJ, then import them onto a blank or basic V4, and save that Cr2. Then in Genx point it to the cr2 and transfer over to Genesis.

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  • reelyorreelyor Posts: 236
    edited December 1969

    Are you transferring to Genesis, or genesis 2? I am under the impression that GenX won't work with Genesis 2. I wish it did.

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,096
    edited December 1969

    He probably speaking about Genesis1. Apparently there is a Genx version for Gen1 to Gen2 transfer. No news on when that will be available yet.

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited December 1969

    Yea he's talking about Genesis 1. Knight is definitely not a G2F user. lol

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    Zev0 said:
    MBusch said:
    You can load Victoria 4 and apply the morph. Follow, export Victoria 4 with the morph applied as a Poser CR2 file. Now, in the Gen X's Transfer panel load the exported CR2 and make the transfer. This workflow always worked for me. Good luck!

    I do this too. Dial up the morph on V4, head, body or Both, Then export as OBJ, then import them onto a blank or basic V4, and save that Cr2. Then in Genx point it to the cr2 and transfer over to Genesis.

    Tried saving it as a Cr2 File but can't even see it in GenX. And when I tried to import as OBJ, nothing happens and no morph appears in order to transfer to Genesis.

    Can you please give me a step by step instruction when you have the time please?

  • fictionalbookshelffictionalbookshelf Posts: 837
    edited December 1969

    This is going to sound dumb, but after you made the Genx morph and before you applied it to the Genesis figure did you dial the Genesis V4 shape first and then the morph? The morph was made on V4 so Genesis would need the shape of V4 to work (I think)

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    This is going to sound dumb, but after you made the Genx morph and before you applied it to the Genesis figure did you dial the Genesis V4 shape first and then the morph? The morph was made on V4 so Genesis would need the shape of V4 to work (I think)

    Your are correct. :)

    But, that's just the thing. I can't even make the GenX morph. Doing it the normal way, I dialed V4 shape, then applied the morph but it barely morphs her.

    But my problem I have now is this: I loaded V4, applied the morph I wanted. Then I tried saving it at as Poser Cr2. That didn't succeed since the only file I saw was an OBJ and I tried loading it up as a GenX morph through GenX but it didn't transfer.

    That's why I need a step by step instruction on how to transfer a morph when GenX won't do it.

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    edited December 1969

    File / Export - and in the window where to save the file, you have to choose the filetype Poser cr2 File

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    Thanks, Kerya. I did that.

    Then I loaded the Cr2 in GenX and transferred the morph. Again with the same results. It barely morphs her.

    Would SOMEONE "PLEASE" give me a step by step instruction on how to do the advice given in this thread. I've tried and tried to follow the advice given, but I don't think it's clear enough since I try it and I keep getting a morph that barely morphs Genesis. So, obviously I am doing something wrong. So could someone PLEASE give me a step by step instruction on what ZevO and Reelor tried telling me? Thanks.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Just out of interest, what is the morph? What does it look like on V4 and what does it look like on Genesis? I think folks might like to see what you're dealing with.

    CHEERS!

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    Rogerbee said:

    Just out of interest, what is the morph? What does it look like on V4 and what does it look like on Genesis? I think folks might like to see what you're dealing with.

    The morph is Astrid from Rendrosity. The figure on the left is Genesis, the figure on the right is V4. Both have the morph applied along with Astrid's skin texture. As you can see, it barely morphs Genesis even after I've tried following the advice given in this thread.

    1. I loaded V4, morphed the head to Astrid.

    2. I Exported it as a Cr2 and saved it.

    3. Loaded up Genesis, loaded up GenX.

    4. Loaded a new V4 then loaded up the saved Astrid Cr2 and applied the pose so the morph would transfer.

    5. Behold the barely morphed results.

    I've done this kind of thing for Flame for M4 over at Rendro because his morph also would not transfer to Genesis the normal way like Astrid's won't. And with Flame, I managed to get that one to work. But that was a few years ago and I forgot how I did it. I used to have that thread where someone explained to me but I no longer have it ever since the old forums got dumped (and I lost the link). So, I wanted to ask here if this process can be explained to me again because I've done it before.

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  • KharmaKharma Posts: 3,214
    edited January 2014

    isn't Astrid for Steph4? If so would that make a difference? The other thing you could try is to load V4, apply the morph then use get morphs from model ( sorry I don't know the exact term as I can't get to the GenX tab right now)

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  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 3,581
    edited December 1969

    Is the V4 Genesis shape dialed in?

  • BejaymacBejaymac Posts: 1,897
    edited December 1969

    I know someone who has this, so I've been sending messages back and forth for a bit trying to get all of the info, Astrid isn't a single custom morph, she has 4 separate morphs in different channels, one morph is in the neck, the next is in the head and last two are in the eyes, and then you have 50+ head morphs from V4's ++ set as well. I know D3D's original Gen4 stand alone would give me issues with something like this, so I don't know if GenX would fair any better.

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    Kharma said:
    isn't Astrid for Steph4? If so would that make a difference? The other thing you could try is to load V4, apply the morph then use get morphs from model ( sorry I don't know the exact term as I can't get to the GenX tab right now)

    Nope, she's for V4. And I have no idea how to do what you suggested.

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    Is the V4 Genesis shape dialed in?

    Yes, she is.

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    Bejaymac said:
    I know someone who has this, so I've been sending messages back and forth for a bit trying to get all of the info, Astrid isn't a single custom morph, she has 4 separate morphs in different channels, one morph is in the neck, the next is in the head and last two are in the eyes, and then you have 50+ head morphs from V4's ++ set as well. I know D3D's original Gen4 stand alone would give me issues with something like this, so I don't know if GenX would fair any better.

    GenX hasn't faired well at all. But there is a way to still transfer a morph that GenX won't do. I should know, I've done it with Flame for M4 when that morph didn't transfer through GenX. So I know transferring the morph is possible, I just forgot how to do it and I'm asking anyone to give me a step by step instruction on how.

  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 3,581
    edited December 1969

    Is the V4 Genesis shape dialed in?

    Yes, she is.

    Are you positive? The figure on the left looks like the base genesis. The neck, nose nor the eyes match up to the V4 shape.

    You can also export the head only as an obj, then load that into an cr2.. That would eliminate any hidden dials in your head morph.

  • KharmaKharma Posts: 3,214
    edited December 1969

    Kharma said:
    isn't Astrid for Steph4? If so would that make a difference? The other thing you could try is to load V4, apply the morph then use get morphs from model ( sorry I don't know the exact term as I can't get to the GenX tab right now)

    Nope, she's for V4. And I have no idea how to do what you suggested.

    I don't have a lot of expertise in GenX but I did do this for a morph I didn't know how to transfer and it worked.

    of course you have to already have dragged V4 and morphs++ to the genX tab
    Load V4 into DS scene with morphs++
    Dial in the morph you are trying to transfer
    Make sure V4 is selected then on the transfer tab choose get values from figure in scene

    This should transfer the morph values from your scene to the GenX tab screen.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Hmm, with what you just said about dragging morphs to the Gen X tab, can you not just drag the INJ pose for Astrid there!? I'm sure that was how I transferred some of the characters and morphs I had.

    CHEERS!

  • KharmaKharma Posts: 3,214
    edited December 1969

    Rogerbee said:

    Hmm, with what you just said about dragging morphs to the Gen X tab, can you not just drag the INJ pose for Astrid there!? I'm sure that was how I transferred some of the characters and morphs I had.

    CHEERS!

    Yes you should be able to but sometimes it doesn't work, and this is how I got the morph I needed to transfer. I must have read the manual a hundred times trying to figure it our and try different things ... lol

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    I see, I must just have been lucky then. G2 came out right when I was about to start using morphs I'd transferred to Genesis, so, I'm now waiting for Gen X 2 so I can transfer everything to G2 instead.

    CHEERS!

  • KharmaKharma Posts: 3,214
    edited December 1969

    I too am anxiously awaiting the arrival of the new version of GenX. I am still tranfering to Genesis but want to compare characters transferred with ones transferred over to G2.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    I think G2 will come into its own with Gen X 2, you'll still have the old versatility of G1, just with split base figures.

    CHEERS!

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited January 2014

    Is the V4 Genesis shape dialed in?

    Yes, she is.

    Are you positive? The figure on the left looks like the base genesis. The neck, nose nor the eyes match up to the V4 shape.

    You can also export the head only as an obj, then load that into an cr2.. That would eliminate any hidden dials in your head morph.

    I'm absolutely positive. Here's two pictures with Genesis on the left, V4 on the right with Genesis dialed in as V4. The second picture is with the Astrid (barely working) morph and both pics have V4's skin texture this time. They look nearly the same to me.

    How do I export the head as an OBJ and load it into a Cr2? And load it into what Cr2?

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  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    Kharma said:
    Kharma said:
    isn't Astrid for Steph4? If so would that make a difference? The other thing you could try is to load V4, apply the morph then use get morphs from model ( sorry I don't know the exact term as I can't get to the GenX tab right now)

    Nope, she's for V4. And I have no idea how to do what you suggested.

    I don't have a lot of expertise in GenX but I did do this for a morph I didn't know how to transfer and it worked.

    of course you have to already have dragged V4 and morphs++ to the genX tab
    Load V4 into DS scene with morphs++
    Dial in the morph you are trying to transfer
    Make sure V4 is selected then on the transfer tab choose get values from figure in scene

    This should transfer the morph values from your scene to the GenX tab screen.


    I'll try this and see if it works. :)

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