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Content Ownership?

drafter69_696b99e42bdrafter69_696b99e42b Posts: 348
in Technical Help (nuts n bolts)

Do you own the content you buy??  Can the products be bequeathed to another when you die???

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,749

    No, you own a non-transferable license to use the content in accordance with the license terms. Your prospective heir could contact Sales Support to see if a one-time transfer of the licenses would be allowed, but I don't know what the result would be.

  • drafter69_696b99e42bdrafter69_696b99e42b Posts: 348

    so all the proson is doing is renting the item......

     

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,749

    No, you own a license to use the content - it's a one-time fee, so not rent. the same is true of your software - you have a license to use it, you don't own it. Come to that, you may own the physical medium of a book or CD but not the contents, those you just have a license to use (but unlike software that is almost always transferrable - possibly because the physical medium makes it harder for a minority to abuse the right).

  • kgrosserkgrosser Posts: 141
    edited January 2019

    Right so, but at least within the EU a software license should actually sellable/transferrable by law and the seller is liable the license is no longer used by the selling holder. The problem with software in general is, that it is impossible/hard to prove unless you tie it to a hardware dongle like iLok or similar, so this is what is the state of the art with professional audio worksatiopns and effect plug ins. Another solution could be that the seller needs to login once and the content to be sold is flagged for non available until a further purchase. It's tricky, but holds true for the downloadable packages, too. But in any case it's a legal requirement in the EU and if someone insists to transfer a license DAZ would be obligated to allow for that.

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  • AscaniaAscania Posts: 1,855
    kgrosser_1bff2b7dc3 said:

    Right so, but at least within the EU a software license should actually sellable/transferrable by law and the seller is liable the license is no longer used by the selling holder. The problem with software in general is, that it is impossible/hard to prove unless you tie it to a hardware dongle like iLok or similar, so this is what is the state of the art with professional audio worksatiopns and effect plug ins. Another solution could be that the seller needs to login once and the content to be sold is flagged for non available until a further purchase. It's tricky, but holds true for the downloadable packages, too. But in any case it's a legal requirement in the EU and if someone insists to transfer a license DAZ would be obligated to allow for that.

    You are free to mount a legal challenge and take it to court and you might even win. But until you do DAZ will abide by their own rules.

  • LenioTGLenioTG Posts: 2,118

    It's the same for Steam and everything else nowadays I guess.

    I think the governments will elaborate some laws about this, until then you can't leave an account to an heir...maybe just give him the password, since he/she would be the only one to use it!

  • kgrosserkgrosser Posts: 141
    edited January 2019
    kameneko said:

    I think the governments will elaborate some laws about this,

    That actually has happened already, they even started  to enforce the customers rights with quite hefty fines. We are living in a world of trade and commerce and reselling is a natural part of it, actually part of the very same business model. With even Microsoft, Apple, Oracle, and other key players having to commit,  it really wouldn't be a wise (and economically sane) move trying to fight the inevitable and rather create proper way for it in own intent. With mandatory account creation on installing DAZ Studio, customer product library etc all neccesary means  actually are already full in place. It would be so easy to allow transfer of single product licenses from one account to another that it is striking it's not possible already. And by keeping it on the own market place, absolute control about proper use would be warranted. Just mark the product you want to shift and it is removed from the online library and flagged blocked in local.

    Re the OP: As long there is no other way provided simply change of email address and credentials and pass the whole account on seems the easiest way .

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  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,078

    Do some posters not realize that the suggestions to circumvent the license amount to fraud?

     

  • kgrosserkgrosser Posts: 141

    No, if you are referring to me from a local legal point of view  quite contrary and in all honest, I was trying to shed some light on the fact that EULAS not in accordance with effective law are considered void where I live and to be replaced with an equivalent closest to Bones Mores, which, hence would include the right to pass on a (software) license. 

     Also I was rather encouraging proper ways to inhibit such for the better of DAZ, the content creators selling through their store (as we know, not all do) and us users.

     But I think that's nuff said now, I was just going to make sure that in no way I was going to encourage fraud or piracy by any means..

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,749

    Closing this as it is getting into armchair lawyering.

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