Converting Under-Arm Wings To G8F

OrionPax09

Okay, here's the thing. I recently completed a Spider-Woman cosplay costume as part of a commission. And part of that costume includes a set of web wings that are beneath the arms, as seen in the included image.

To maximize availability, I've been making versions of this costume for multiple Genesis generations. I've successfully created complete versions of this costume for G2F and G3F. But while I've been able to convert the bulk of this costume to G8F, I have to admit to being stuck in regards to the wings.

Any suggestions?

Richard Haseltine

Is the issue the A pose? If so you can bend the arms into a T pose and then right-click in the Viewport with the Joint Editor>Edit>Bake Joint Rotations, then do your rigging from that (I think you also need to zero out any JCMs). Once done, pose your wings to the A pose of the default figure and use the same Joint Editor right-click>Edit>Bake Joint Rotations to get a version that will work, then tidy up JCMs and any other tweaking needed.

barbult

Richard, what are you baking in each step? The costume or the figure that will wear the costume? I'm confused.

OrionPax09

Richard Haseltine said:

Is the issue the A pose? If so you can bend the arms into a T pose and then right-click in the Viewport with the Joint Editor>Edit>Bake Joint Rotations, then do your rigging from that (I think you also need to zero out any JCMs). Once done, pose your wings to the A pose of the default figure and use the same Joint Editor right-click>Edit>Bake Joint Rotations to get a version that will work, then tidy up JCMs and any other tweaking needed.

The issue isn't the pose. I know about baking in the joint rotations. The problem is the new weight-mapping. I'm not sure how to transfer the weight-mapping from G8F to the wings without them getting horribly distorted.

Richard Haseltine

barbult said:

Richard, what are you baking in each step? The costume or the figure that will wear the costume? I'm confused.

Bake the figure to match the clothing implicit pose, rig the clothing, then pose the clothing to match the figure base pose and bake the clothing.

OrionPax09 said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Is the issue the A pose? If so you can bend the arms into a T pose and then right-click in the Viewport with the Joint Editor>Edit>Bake Joint Rotations, then do your rigging from that (I think you also need to zero out any JCMs). Once done, pose your wings to the A pose of the default figure and use the same Joint Editor right-click>Edit>Bake Joint Rotations to get a version that will work, then tidy up JCMs and any other tweaking needed.

The issue isn't the pose. I know about baking in the joint rotations. The problem is the new weight-mapping. I'm not sure how to transfer the weight-mapping from G8F to the wings without them getting horribly distorted.

After transfer (which should give the correct joint centres but not so useful weights) you'd have to do a fair bit of hand editing. Or you could just rig the struts and then let dForce handle the membrane, I would think.

Leana

Since you said you have a G3F version you could try using SY's tutorial to create a G8F version from it: https://www.deviantart.com/sickleyield/journal/Tutorial-Convert-Clothing-G3-to-G8-G8-to-G3-686682065

barbult

Richard Haseltine said:

barbult said:

Richard, what are you baking in each step? The costume or the figure that will wear the costume? I'm confused.

Bake the figure to match the clothing implicit pose, rig the clothing, then pose the clothing to match the figure base pose and bake the clothing.

OrionPax09 said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Is the issue the A pose? If so you can bend the arms into a T pose and then right-click in the Viewport with the Joint Editor>Edit>Bake Joint Rotations, then do your rigging from that (I think you also need to zero out any JCMs). Once done, pose your wings to the A pose of the default figure and use the same Joint Editor right-click>Edit>Bake Joint Rotations to get a version that will work, then tidy up JCMs and any other tweaking needed.

The issue isn't the pose. I know about baking in the joint rotations. The problem is the new weight-mapping. I'm not sure how to transfer the weight-mapping from G8F to the wings without them getting horribly distorted.

After transfer (which should give the correct joint centres but not so useful weights) you'd have to do a fair bit of hand editing. Or you could just rig the struts and then let dForce handle the membrane, I would think.

Thanks for the clarification, Richard.