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Iray still broke after 419 drivers

tonicdustytonicdusty Posts: 12
in Technical Help (nuts n bolts)

After updating to the 419 drivers, Iray is still a no go. The only change is that now Interactive draw settings work, but it still can't render both to image or in the preveiw under photorealistic. I have an RTX 2080. Anyone else still having problems or is this just me?

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  • RobinsonRobinson Posts: 751

    Still on 417.71 and no problems.  I suppose I won't be installing it.  Please post when they release a version that does work. indecision

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,701

    Have you tried completely uninstalling the drivers and then reinstalling the 419 set? They do seem to be working for quite a few people, though I'm not sure how many have 20x0 cards.

  • Ghosty12Ghosty12 Posts: 2,065

    Just did a test on a 4 year old file after changing the figure in scene took about 10 minutes to get to 95% using the 419.17 drivers..

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  • tonicdustytonicdusty Posts: 12

    I've done full clean install, and even Reset Windows and no change other then the Interactive veiw works. Oddly enough I was never able to get the old driver to work either once I updated to 418.9. I cleared my Daz 3D caches, manually uninstalled by nvidia driver, and reinstalled using custom/clean install. Gives me the feeling that I have some stray driver/cache that does not get removed with a manual instal or by Driver Sweeper. I'll keep trying.

  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    Did you use DDU to do the uninstall? If not do so.

  • MescalinoMescalino Posts: 436

    Im using teh latest drivers and iray works fine my issue was with dForce but a clean install solved  that. Maybe this will work for you too.

  • tonicdustytonicdusty Posts: 12

    I used DDU and clean install, but no change. Are you guys running RTX cards?

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,830

    Just to check, are you using the latest 4.11 beta? Because AFAIK Iray versions included in 4.10 and earlier versions of DS don’t support 2080 cards.

  • PadonePadone Posts: 3,796
    Leana said:

    Iray versions included in 4.10 and earlier versions of DS don’t support 2080 cards.

    is that true ?

    so if you get a 20xx card you can run iray just in the beta and any version before will not work ??? not too nice ..

     

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,830
    edited February 2019

    20xx cards are a relatively recent tech, and iray had to be modified to support them. So yes they require a recent version of Iray to work, which means 4.11 (which includes a version of iray 2018) for DS.

    Post edited by Leana on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,701
    Padone said:
    Leana said:

    Iray versions included in 4.10 and earlier versions of DS don’t support 2080 cards.

    is that true ?

    so if you get a 20xx card you can run iray just in the beta and any version before will not work ??? not too nice ..

    Iray will stil work on the CPU, but it will obviously be much slower.

  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,078

    Same as with the 10XX versions. This is not a Daz Studio issue.

    Padone said:
    Leana said:

    Iray versions included in 4.10 and earlier versions of DS don’t support 2080 cards.

    is that true ?

    so if you get a 20xx card you can run iray just in the beta and any version before will not work ??? not too nice ..

     

     

  • PadonePadone Posts: 3,796

    Good to know thank you.

    I was going to get a 2060 for my new rig but now I guess I'll wait a bit. At least for drivers and ds to be ready for it.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,701

    DS is ready - there's no issue that has been reported with the beta, and you can have the release build installed too if you like. Of course waiting may let you get more and/or pay less for your GPU.

  • damselnoir007damselnoir007 Posts: 24

    I have a 2080 card in my machine, It rendered beautifully w DAZ 4.10 and the 417.71 driver. The update driver put an end to that and DAZ only renders using the CPU now, which makes using DAZ pointless, becasue the computer is unusible for hours rendering big detailed images. I back versoned the driver, but still the GPU wont render.  I talked to nVidia and was amazed by the "we couldnt give a sh!t about DAZ or Rendering and We're not planning on looking into it, have a good day" additude.  I'm gonna try the 4.11 Beta, hoping that works. 

  • algovincianalgovincian Posts: 2,636
    damselnoir007 said:

    I have a 2080 card in my machine, It rendered beautifully w DAZ 4.10 and the 417.71 driver. The update driver put an end to that and DAZ only renders using the CPU now, which makes using DAZ pointless, becasue the computer is unusible for hours rendering big detailed images. I back versoned the driver, but still the GPU wont render.  I talked to nVidia and was amazed by the "we couldnt give a sh!t about DAZ or Rendering and We're not planning on looking into it, have a good day" additude.  I'm gonna try the 4.11 Beta, hoping that works. 

    Really? Your 2080 was actually used to render in 4.10? Interesting . . .

    - Greg

  • damselnoir007damselnoir007 Posts: 24
    damselnoir007 said:

    I have a 2080 card in my machine, It rendered beautifully w DAZ 4.10 and the 417.71 driver. The update driver put an end to that and DAZ only renders using the CPU now, which makes using DAZ pointless, becasue the computer is unusible for hours rendering big detailed images. I back versoned the driver, but still the GPU wont render.  I talked to nVidia and was amazed by the "we couldnt give a sh!t about DAZ or Rendering and We're not planning on looking into it, have a good day" additude.  I'm gonna try the 4.11 Beta, hoping that works. 

    Update with a happy ending.  I clean installed the 417.71 driver  and Loaded DAZ 4.11 Beta. 4.11 sees and functions with all existing content "figures. wardrobe...etc" that I installed on my machine in the past for 4.10 and my 2080 Card is one again blazing fast and fully functioning in RENDER mode. Bravo to DAZ, well done! 

  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,078
    edited March 2019

    You know that's not true. It's not the driver that's the issue for 4.10, it's the Iray version.

    algovincian said:
    damselnoir007 said:

    I have a 2080 card in my machine, It rendered beautifully w DAZ 4.10 and the 417.71 driver. The update driver put an end to that and DAZ only renders using the CPU now, which makes using DAZ pointless, becasue the computer is unusible for hours rendering big detailed images. I back versoned the driver, but still the GPU wont render.  I talked to nVidia and was amazed by the "we couldnt give a sh!t about DAZ or Rendering and We're not planning on looking into it, have a good day" additude.  I'm gonna try the 4.11 Beta, hoping that works. 

    Really? Your 2080 was actually used to render in 4.10? Interesting . . .

    - Greg

     

    Post edited by fastbike1 on
  • DigitalSteamDigitalSteam Posts: 299

    Is this still a thing? When digging around investigating slow painfully slow renders, task manager shows Studio is using 25-95% of the processor resources, and 0% GPU.  I read in another thread that turning off OptiX might help, so I do. Now it's still using mostly the CPU, but it does register .2 - .6 usage of the GPU.  Not a great improvement.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,701
    DigitalSteam said:

    Is this still a thing? When digging around investigating slow painfully slow renders, task manager shows Studio is using 25-95% of the processor resources, and 0% GPU.  I read in another thread that turning off OptiX might help, so I do. Now it's still using mostly the CPU, but it does register .2 - .6 usage of the GPU.  Not a great improvement.

    The default behaviour of Task Manager does not properly register Iray. You need to tell it to monitor Compute_0, or CUDA if that is an option. If the CPU is not being used to 100% then it's likely that the GPU is being used, as hard as possible, but that involves only certain functions of the GPU.

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