Using Install Manager in Linux (Ubuntu 13.10)
amy_aimei
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I'm giving up on Windows 8.1 (32-bit) because it made my laptop freeze almost everyday! My laptop used to have Windows 8 on it, and it never freeze. I'm in the process of switching to Linux (Ubuntu 13.10). The only application I'm using that requires Windows is DAZ Studio. I've tested that DAZ Studio 4.6 installed and runs properly with wine; but I've issue with Install Manager, I installed it and it runs. It cannot complete download of the DAZ Studio 4.6 beta version, always fails at 98% or 99%. At the end, I use the Windows PC download the program package and place it into the folder that Install Manager expected the downloaded files. Then, I can use the Install Manager to install it.
I understand that Linux is not a supported platform for DAZ Studio and Install Manager. I just hope someone have some experiences to help me; or the developers and management at DAZ saw my message may do something about it.
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I use Ubuntu 12.04, I get the download failed error on install manager quite often, usually when it comes to downloading bigger files, the solution that worked best for me is to download and don´t touch your computer during the download process.
Depending on which version of wine you use, you won´t be able to install software with the Install Manager. Software installations worked fine until wine 1.4 in later wine versions they won´t work, products still install fine.
Seems to the way that it is. Dim always downloads to 99% and then stops regardless of the file size; 99% of a 100MB Model or 99% of a 100KB pose file, so i do not think file size has anything to do with it. Seems also to be the same with all wine versions i ever tried (which is practically every version since 1.1). So my current strategy is:
If possible, download with a web browser from the product library and place it into the download directory of the Dim.
For the files that are not downloadable from the product library (some plugins, beta versions amongst others), i use VirtualBox with a Windows in it. Similar to what you do, but with the VirtualBox i can use a shared folder to get the VirtualBox's Dim's downloaded files directly into wine's Dim's download folder, saving the manual copy (and the disk space) for those.
Seems to the way that it is. Dim always downloads to 99% and then stops regardless of the file size; 99% of a 100MB Model or 99% of a 100KB pose file, so i do not think file size has anything to do with it. Seems also to be the same with all wine versions i ever tried (which is practically every version since 1.1). So my current strategy is:
If possible, download with a web browser from the product library and place it into the download directory of the Dim.
For the files that are not downloadable from the product library (some plugins, beta versions amongst others), i use VirtualBox with a Windows in it. Similar to what you do, but with the VirtualBox i can use a shared folder to get the VirtualBox's Dim's downloaded files directly into wine's Dim's download folder, saving the manual copy (and the disk space) for those.
To me it mostly happens with bigger files, most of the content just downloads fine.
Thank you for your suggestions. I'm using wine 1.6 when I tested.
I think DAZ studio would benefit from supporting Linux as there are more people switching to Linux from Windows due to various reasons.
OpenGL works better and faster in Linux which would be a boon for Rendering.
Linux is also attracting more developers who've gotten fed up with some of the crap from Windows.
How did you made it run Daz Studio 4.6 with wine? Actually I'm using wine 1.7.11 (git) and I'm only able to run Daz Studio 4.0, the version 4.6 just won't load any content even after installing 'Genesis Starter Essentials', it simply seems don't recognize 'Content Management Server' as it would. Also, having your same problem with the Install Manager so I had to install anything manually.
PS. I apologize for my english, it's not my main language.
Try using winecfg to change the version of Windows that Studio 'sees'. Try Server 2008...
I tried with "Windows 8", "Windows 2008 R2", "Windows 2008" and "Windows 7" but unfortunately nothing changed.
I also switched from Win8 to Linux. Didn't know that Studio can be run with wine. I'll give it a try, of course a native version of Studio would be much better, also regards performance, for the time being i'll stick with Daz on wine then.
Ok, now Daz Studio 4.6 runs perfectly without any problems, had to install some libraries through winetricks:
d3dx9 and corefonts are optional.
Also had to create a new key in the regedit in order to don't get random crashes:
My wine version is actually 'wine-1.7.11-206-g82b3813' set to Windows 8 in winecfg.
Install Manager still have issues but it's not so traumatic since it's possible download files manually from Daz website.
I have tried to run DAZStudio 4.6.2.118 on Linux Mint 64 bit version and it didn't worked, then i saw this thread and installed Ubuntu hoping that it might work. But it is the same it shows only starting loading screen of Daz Studio then it stops and turns off without loading program. I am using Wine 1.7.1 in Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit version. Is there a chance i can make it work, or is there some tutorial for runing DS on Linux that i could use?
Open a terminal in the directory that DS is in (since it's probably not in your path, you'll need to do it that way or type in the full path to the exe) and type in wine DAZStudio.exe
That way when it chokes, it should print out what dependencies/errors there were in the terminal.
Post those here.
Ok, i don't know how to open terminal in directory that i work in, i had to switch trough directories using cd command and it worked. But it didn't on DAZ 3D (because of the space in between) so i had to rename it to DAZ3D (i wonder how this is done when it is DAZ 3D).
Anyway here is the screen shot, and it seems that something is still working there after that which is message i recived when i tried closing the terminal
I have used Ubuntu and really liked it, switched back to Windows a few years ago when I bought CS5.5.
Wondering if Photoshop (I have used Gimp but prefer PS) will run in Wine, now that I know DAZ will run, it is the only thing that would stop me from switching. I am running Windows 8.1 and I am not all that pleased with it.
Here's hoping. :)
For those having issues with DAZ Studio in Linux under Wine, I use PlayOnLinux; it goes and installs the version of Wine I need, and any dependencies. If you have window draw issues, run in a virtual desktop, the setting can be found in your Wine configuration. I've run 4.6 flawlessly in Linux Mint 16. And since I keep over 90% of my content on separate internal drives, I keep a backup copy of my Runtimes on an external, as well as a copy of the Studio install, that way I can fully run it from any machine. Personally, I would dump the Install Manager. However, reading this thread kinda makes me want to attempt a proper install on my Linux box, just to say that it will run 100%. The thing with the Install Manager is, say I'm running it on my Win7 render workhorse. I'm in a 64-bit environment on that machine. My spare Linux box is in a 32-bit environment, so to install and/or update something like Studio 4.6, I have to download the manual install file for a 32-bit environment, because the Install Manager doesn't even give me the option of installing the 32-bit version when it's running in a 64-bit environment. The program is just too much of a hassle if you ask me. Besides, the vast majority of my downloaded and purchased content is in Zip files anyway, which renders the DIM ineffective. Again, I wouldn't even bother with it, it may streamline your install process, but it locks you out from a control standpoint. It's a very bad implementation of a good idea.
A few corrections:
1. DIM will allow you to download both the 32 and 64 bit versions -- I have both versions of DS4.6 installed by DIM on my 64-bit machine.
2. DIM downloads and installs only zip files.
3. I'm a control freak and DIM gives me plenty of control -- if you can elaborate on what you feel you wouldn't have control over, I may be able to explain how to do it.
A few corrections:
1. DIM will allow you to download both the 32 and 64 bit versions -- I have both versions of DS4.6 installed by DIM on my 64-bit machine.
2. DIM downloads and installs only zip files.
3. I'm a control freak and DIM gives me plenty of control -- if you can elaborate on what you feel you wouldn't have control over, I may be able to explain how to do it.
1. As stated, it was never given to me as an option. In order to "update" my Studio 4.6 install, I needed to run the Install Manager; a manual download option was not an option on the web page. Keep in mind that I have several versions of Studio on my workhorse, in both 64-bit and 32-bit flavors, and in order to avoid arbitrary uninstall flags being set off when updating, I have had to resort to renaming folders so that older program versions aren't wiped. There is content out there that doesn't play nice in certain versions, so I have to keep different versions on-hand. This is important from a developer standpoint, as well as when there is a need to complete a commission based on very specific content.
2. I figured that out after a little digging.
3. I like to know exactly where and how my content is being installed, before it is installed. I also like to know where the downloaded content is saved to, so that I can back up the content as well as scan it. Yes, I know where all the settings are and how to change them. However, this program assumes default locations right off the bat, and those locations do not conform to my file structure, which spans across several computers and drives, and they're not all duplicates. Therefore I would much rather be given the file, to do with as I please without using a manager. You can run simple script files for group deflating if it comes down to that.
I purchase most of my content from Renderosity, Content Paradise, Evilinnocence and RuntimeDNA. None of those stores has an arbitrary install manager, although I do use 3D Content Manager from AHudson, which I have been using for many years:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/3d-content-installer/61876
I can set as many install locations as I want in that program, and change those locations on the fly. I've been using it for years. It works with any zip file, as well as most of the legacy arbitrary DAZ deflators. Just give me the file, and let me manage it on my own, thanks.
Anyway, just use PlayOnLinux, and chances are your Windows program will run.
1. As stated, it was never given to me as an option. In order to "update" my Studio 4.6 install, I needed to run the Install Manager; a manual download option was not an option on the web page. Keep in mind that I have several versions of Studio on my workhorse, in both 64-bit and 32-bit flavors, and in order to avoid arbitrary uninstall flags being set off when updating, I have had to resort to renaming folders so that older program versions aren't wiped. There is content out there that doesn't play nice in certain versions, so I have to keep different versions on-hand. This is important from a developer standpoint, as well as when there is a need to complete a commission based on very specific content.
2. I figured that out after a little digging.
3. I like to know exactly where and how my content is being installed, before it is installed. I also like to know where the downloaded content is saved to, so that I can back up the content as well as scan it. Yes, I know where all the settings are and how to change them. However, this program assumes default locations right off the bat, and those locations do not conform to my file structure, which spans across several computers and drives, and they're not all duplicates. Therefore I would much rather be given the file, to do with as I please without using a manager. You can run simple script files for group deflating if it comes down to that.
I purchase most of my content from Renderosity, Content Paradise, Evilinnocence and RuntimeDNA. None of those stores has an arbitrary install manager, although I do use 3D Content Manager from AHudson, which I have been using for many years:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/3d-content-installer/61876
I can set as many install locations as I want in that program, and change those locations on the fly. I've been using it for years. It works with any zip file, as well as most of the legacy arbitrary DAZ deflators. Just give me the file, and let me manage it on my own, thanks.
1. Only the beta requires DIM, the general release version always has a manual option, and that is specifically so that the beta version will NOT mess up the general release,, for the exact reasons you state.
3. Well there has to be some default, and of course you can change them and never have to worry about them again.
Anyway, thanks to DIM the files are all zips, so you can install them manually or with 3DCI from AHudson, which I also used to use. I'm a big control freak, so I always unzip manually before I install with DIM, so I can be sure it's been packed correctly (occasionally it isn't. mostly with older items).
My only never-ending frustration inducer is the lack of uniformity in case...and yes, I just checked a couple of zips...it's mostly the older stuff.
Yeah, that's a problem if you're on Linux -- I've asked about it, but you may want to put in a feature request.
Take a look at this>>>http://www.cupoflinux.com/SBB/index.php/topic,2299.html
On a side note Wine has a stable 2.0 now 64bit.>>>>https://appdb.winehq.org/index.php