Ghaaaa... The forum is blinding me!
LeatherGryphon
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People of the ancient persuasion (like me) discover to their dismay that their eyes get less adaptable to extremes of light intensity. We become night blind and day blind too. I don't drive at night anymore and have to use sunglasses in the day.
Is there ANY WAY to change the blinding white backgrounds of the DAZ forum with their pitifully pale text to something less abusive to ancient eyes?
I've tried changing the InternetExplorer9 color scheme but it makes no difference. Apparently DAZ specifically declares all colors for the forum pages and Windows can't change them.
I can't read the DAZ forums for any more than about ten minutes before my eyes are literally painful and watering and I then stumble around my house with forum afterglow burned into my retina for 10 minutes.
Who the hell decided on these colors?
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I use Color That Site addon
That is for firefox though, LG uses IE
My bad
I'm not that old but I do get that this forum could be a little difficult to read. I am light sensitive myself (linked to my ASD) and don't wear my sunglasses as often as I should during the day.
A different 'skin' or two for this forum would be a good thing I think.
I have found Much on changing them IF the Site does not specify the colors. NOTHING if they do. I did try LG. Sorry.
I Just used this one and It worked http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/internet-explorer-9-accessibility-options
Won't work for everyone, but I have a set of Gunnar Optiks eye ware, that I love, they change the contrast and reflections - though they are quite sensitive to fingerprints and the like. I use my computers a lot.
i have to zoom my browsers to 150% to read without pain & strain.
Wow, I'm surrounded by elderly folks. (He said, adjusting his trifocals for the umpteenth time...)
57 years old and loving every minute of it! (as she rocks back and forth in her rocker.)
Safari has the option to zoom /only/ the text. It does make it somewhat easier to read.
Well, that sort of works. Cool! At least I can get the large white areas turned down to a relaxing dark gray. I still have to tweak text colors, and some of the "blue" and "magenta" texts are next to invisible against the dark gray.
I realize that a fully engineered color scheme is a fiddly business but somebody in the world needs to write a book about how modern bright display screens cook eyeballs.
I think I'll capture a web design kiddie tie him up and sit him in a locked white room, lined with halogen lights illuminating a whiteboard with microscopic gray text giving him instructions on how to get out of the room before the bomb explodes. If he survives, he might begin designing websites with something other than dim text on white backgrounds.
Just out of interest LG, what type, size of monitor are you using? I have noticed that this forum looks different on my iMac then it does on my Windows machine.
Just saying certain displays handle text differently.
I used to have a dark colored website to make it easier on eyes for a few years. Boy, that didn't work! Had to go to white background/black text to get any business. It started to pick up after I made it a white background. I don't know how many times I was told a white background was more desirable by the web gurus and made you more businesslike.
I feel for you, though. I don't have vision problems but an older brother has diabetes and had a small stroke. He can't see well at all now and white screens blind him.
I understand the concept of catering to the masses and choosing the familiar white paper-like backgrounds to get people in the door, but in a forum where your captive audience can be staring at tiny text for hours from displays that actually produce very bright light, not just reflect average room light, a dark background is much appreciated by many.
23" HP w2338h w/resolution of 1920x1080
I agree, the white does get tiring for long viewing. I usually jump around a lot, from topic to product and so on. Back in the day of the crt type screen, my work provided a clip-on screen filter that cut down the glare when we made the switch from black screens with green text to white screens with black or grey. That helped a lot, but I haven't seen such a product lately.
I have to pump up the screen to 150% if I'm going to read a lot, and that's with the new glasses specially designed for computer viewing. They have an anti glare coating, too, which helps a lot.
23" HP w2338h w/resolution of 1920x1080
Hmm. I'll need to do a little investigation. The font looks a little... "soft" or "fuzzy" on the edges when I view the forum on my Windows machine (which has a similar monitor and same resolution to what you're using). Could be a contrast thing, or I'm way too used to the crisp edge font on my iMac.
Also the font on my iMac displays as Black but on my windows machine it's more 'greyish'.
LeatherGryphon I'm happy it sort of worked, I did notice it messed up much but it was all I could find. You would think with the option to Disable Default Web colors built into IE9 we would have a Addon to set up web pages like FF does.
I use computer glasses that I bought around 8 years ago.. the little screws over time have fallen out and I have used wire to keep the frames together lol
All because I can't find another pair to replace them!
they sell replacement screw packs in the store for a couple bucks
I understand the concept of catering to the masses and choosing the familiar white paper-like backgrounds to get people in the door, but in a forum where your captive audience can be staring at tiny text for hours from displays that actually produce very bright light, not just reflect average room light, a dark background is much appreciated by many.
One thing I've noticed from some art that folks post here, their monitors must be set way too bright because their renders are way too dark. But every time I mention it, I get shouted down. I hope your monitor is not set too high and I'm guessing it isn't since you have the stated issue.
My method exactly. :)
One thing I've noticed from some art that folks post here, their monitors must be set way too bright because their renders are way too dark. But every time I mention it, I get shouted down. I hope your monitor is not set too high and I'm guessing it isn't since you have the stated issue.
I wish I had a professional display calibration tool, but I don't. I use typical "by eye" calibrations methods. Almost all images I see in this forum and across the web look good with adequate whites, darks, contrast, gamma, saturation, and color balance. I hope whatever images I've posted here (and in other forums on the web) are not mis-calibrated. I've never heard any complaints. I have six displays of different sizes, resolutions, and age in my lab. All my images look fine on all of my monitors.
It used to be that Windows displays and Mac displays had a very noticeable difference in gamma, but I believe that that incompatibility has been resolved in recent years, or at least is less of a problem.
(Anybody have a good layman's description of "gamma"? I generally explain it as adjustment of the centerpoint of contrast to achieve a pleasing balance of contrast while keeping the endpoints of contrast static.)
My method exactly. :)
I sometimes zoom my browser pages to 125% but most of the time I can still deal with normal 100% sizes. I'm sure this will change in the not too distant future. :-( I sometimes wish I could turn my monitor on end and browse the web in "portrait" rather than "landscape" mode. I really dislike vertical scrolling when nearly half the screen is wasted on the edges of a "landscape" display. I probably could if I had another monitor that had a proper pivot or if I had a spare monitor that I could leave in portrait mode all the time.
I sometimes zoom my browser pages to 125% but most of the time I can still deal with normal 100% sizes. I'm sure this will change in the not too distant future. :-( I sometimes wish I could turn my monitor on end and browse the web in "portrait" rather than "landscape" mode. I really dislike vertical scrolling when nearly half the screen is wasted on the edges of a "landscape" display. I probably could if I had another monitor that had a proper pivot or if I had a spare monitor that I could leave in portrait mode all the time.
I zoom in a lot and fill the screen. Have to on facebook since the font is so damn tiny there.
oh how nice idea
everything gray for me now
no hovering though
Here's an example of a website that is dark yet I find easy to read.
http://www.dipsontheatres.com/
I must admit that sometimes, especially in the evenings, I suffer from snow blindness with all this white. Where's my sunglasses!
Tried color that site, but it looks as though it reverts back when I select a different section of the forum. Don't fancy setting each section either.
I recently helped redesign our website for a tourist town and we use Tan backgrounds with either a dark brown or black for writing. That scheme seems to make things easier to read without the harshness. I agree sometimes the white on Black can be over powering.
I'm sorry your having so many issue LG, I feel your pain. On my tablet and my new laptop at work I have no "Color This Site" so it's that blaring, glaring white on gray and well it's not pretty after a while. I have to keep rubbing my eyes to stay focused. Most web sites of this caliber have at least a few options. Just joined the EightForums for all my computer crap I've been going through, same thing with the glaring backgrounds but in the USER CP there are about 10 themes and I chose the Dark one, quite nice on the eyes. Part of the issue with DAZ is they keep adding more elements to the web site as needed so I had to give up making full site wide themes as they kept adding more and so my color tweaks on certain pages just looked off or bad. Now I've taken to making a theme per page so I have about 20 themes all in my fav Wolffie Green and complimentary colors to cover MOST of the pages here, not all but most . Same with Renderosity too. I use Firefox so I know that's not helping your situation. Here's a screen grab from the forum, my post actually! lol