Inexpensive way to make tears for figures
Hello All,
I have a situation in which I want to make a render with a figure crying. I have looked in the store for something inexpensive and sadly, I can't find anything good for a low price. It seems that tears are (what I consider) a fairly expensive proposition. Further, on top of the high cost, most don't look realistic! The only one that I think is realistic enough is this one:
https://www.daz3d.com/realistic-tears-for-genesis-8-and-genesis-3.
However even with my Platinum Club discounts, I can't get this lower than $10. I just feel something like this should be around $3 to $4 or $5 at the most. So I am looking for other options here.
Thank You
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A product for 4 figures with 18 options for each? Seriously?
There are a few options for G8F at Rendo:
https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/tears-for-g8-females/128395/
https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/real-life-expressions-for-g8f-v8---with-morphing-tears/122654/
Still not in the price range you quoted but cheaper than the pack you linked to.
Yeah, seriously. You don't get any figures with them. It's just tears and smudged makeup! As it is it is something that I would rarely use. Clearly an item that one shouldn't be paying a double digit figure for.
Hmmm, the first one has the same problem most of them do. They don't look right. The second one is better but overall a worse value than the package I linked to here on Daz. Well thank you for looking into it. But I probably will just do without and go with a sad face only.
I wonder how much time you think it takes to create these products, and how much you think the artist's time is worth. Tell you what. Come over to my place, rake leaves for 4 hours and I'll buy the tears for you!
I guess 13.17$ is a fair price. If you want a lower price, use the "Daz Deals" browser extension to be notified when it goes on sale.
At the beginning you value a lot "characters", but when you've used/created dozens/hundreds of them, "universal" tools are much more useful, because you can use them on any figure, and not on just one included character!
I am fairly new hear, and I really don't know. It might have taken the artist years to develop it and I would tip my hat for their efforts. But I am going by what I feel it should be worth. For me it is a limited use thing that I probably would use perhaps once or twice in year's time. ...And I am alergic to yard work...quite literally. So that's out of the question.
If you say so. Again, as I said to ValKyrie above, it is an item that I don't put a high value on and thus I can't justify the double digit cost. Understood as I do try to stray away from preset characters to create my own using morphs that I bought. However, many times I end up getting a preset character as the sales often require that you buy a new release item. One of the more universal tools I bought was Skin Builder 8. Now THAT cost me $25 on a half price sale, but I didn't mind that because to me there was a high value to that add-on. It does skin colors, aging features, veins, eyebrows, makeup, and more. So in this case the price is well justified. The next one I am eying is the aging one. Recently this was released:
https://www.daz3d.com/wicked-women-hd-faces-and-bodies-for-genesis-8-female
9 heads and 5 bodies. Now THAT is well worth the price.
I do admit too, I have a weakness for the Mousso women and I have a few of them. Delaney is a favorite and I have used her in many bases for my own figures already:
https://www.daz3d.com/delaney-for-genesis-8-female
So I got my money's worth out of that one.
I guess it is a matter of perceived value. That is what it boils down to. In my case I just did without it, the expression I used did the job on it's own:
I put this together in lieu of the events that went on last week in Paris, France and the fire at Notre Dame. I am a fan of Gothic cathedrals, and this one is at the top of my list. So it was a very sad event indeed.
Nice render! :D
For example, I wouldn't pay those women faces 10 cents xD
Skin Builder 8 has a great value indeed.
In the end, I'm confident in saying that I would never buy a 50$ hammer, for example, because I don't need such a good hammer, even if I would definitely take it for 2$, but it doesn't seem fair to me to go to the manufacturer and to tell him that the value of his hammer is 2$, because that's what I'm willing to pay for it, even if most people value it as a 50$ hammer! :)
The least expensive way would be a DIY approach. If the character had a specularity map, you could have edited that to add a shiny tear trail. A teardrop would not be hard to model, and there may be a free/cheap model out there if you feel that is beyond your current abilities.
You say the teardrop product doesn't include any new figures, and therefore shouldn't be priced as it is, but yet neither do the head/body and character packs you linked. They are morphs and makeup presets for existing figures (Genesis 8 Female). You're not getting any new geometry with them. You're always free to try to paint it in whatever app of your choosing, create the albedo and displacement maps, then set up the iray shader so it looks convincing.
There is Krita, which is completely free, or something like Affinity Photo, which was around $49 when I purchased it. From there, you'll need to research displacement maps if you're not using something like Substance Painter that can make quick work of its creation.
Thank you!
I agree, I TRY not to buy faces either, but a good deal like that, or if the woman is really pretty, then I 'cave in' and get it. But then there are those that are part of a pro-bundle sale deal and I have a love / hate relationship with those. The love part is that the deal is really good and I get some good hair and clothing out of it. The bad is that I am sucked into buying more bodies and faces. Now if it is something special like Rachelle (the vampire), The Bride, Medusa, or Xenogirl, then I definitely would get something like those.
Yes, it is. Skin Builder is one of the most used utilities I have. Definitely a great purchase and I would highly recommend to anyone. Another good one for skins is Altern 8. I have not tried that one yet, but I have heard of others using it and they like it and it is not as expensive as some skin utilities are. I probably will pick it up when it goes on a big sale.
As for your hammer analogy. Well, why not? I WOULD go to the manufacturer and say, if the average going price on a hammer is $10, why should I pay $50 for yours?
You got my attention, how is this done? I am new to Daz Studio and yes, something like this would be advanced, but I certainly would like to learn how to do it. Other than that, I would wait until I would come across a girl that comes with tears or something like that.
Oh really? I was under the impression they came with new faces and bodies. Still it is a good base to work from.
My computer is an Linux box with Ubuntu Studio on it, but I do have a separate HD on it with a Windows partition so I can use Daz and other Windows based products. But because it is Ubuntu STUDIO, I have many art programs that came with it. So, I have Krita, Gimp and Blender on my system already. Sadly though, I am just beginning with digital art so I do not how to fully use those programs. I mostly use Gimp out of the three since that is a photo editor like Photo Shop.